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Mike Vandeman
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At 03:13 PM 6/6/03 -0700, Choch Kee <[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't even know where to start.
Using the Mammoth Mtn ski resort pics to show the damage Mnt bike do to the environment is absurd.
No, it isn't, because there are no hikers there. ALL the damage was done by mountain bikers.
> What about the clear-cutting of the forest to make the trails in the first
place?
What's your point? I oppose trail construction YOU don't!
>Besides, it's private land.
That shows just how ignorant you are of environmental laws. Do you suppose wildlife on private land
don't matter?
>What about the fire roads that tear there way through every park system in this
country? You want to see erosion, go check out what they just did to the West Ridge Trail
in Redwood.
That has NOTHING to do with mountain bking, does it?
>Why don't you pick on the park rangers that did that, and try to ban tractors?
I do. You don't.
>What about the impact of horses on trails? And the out of control asses that
ride them? Why don't you try to ban them?
I have. Have YOU? I doubt it. Show me your letters.
>Why don't you go after all ski resorts for clear-cutting to make trails?
I oppose trail construction. YOU don't! Hypocrite.
>Sounds to me like you picked the easiest target and went for it, without
respect to what and how erosion is caused and who's most to blame.
I guess you haven't read my web site. I suggest that you do your homework FIRST, before running off
at the mouth.
>Currently mnt. bikers have less representation than the other groups I
mentioned due to generally low average age and income.
BS. They have a huge lobbying network, including paid lobbyists and lawyers.
> You won't dare go after equestrians, ski resorts or God forbid the park system
for doing much more damage than a bicycle could ever hope to.
I already have, if you would bother to read what I write. Do you realize what a FOOL you sound like?
>You just don't like young people having more fun than you're capable of.
Destroying wildlife habitat is not fun. That just shows how ignorant you are.
>Only in Berkeley will an enviro-extremist like you find an audience.
Actually, I have given papers at environmental conferences all over the world. HAVE YOU? Of
course not.
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to
help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to
help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>I don't even know where to start.
Using the Mammoth Mtn ski resort pics to show the damage Mnt bike do to the environment is absurd.
No, it isn't, because there are no hikers there. ALL the damage was done by mountain bikers.
> What about the clear-cutting of the forest to make the trails in the first
place?
What's your point? I oppose trail construction YOU don't!
>Besides, it's private land.
That shows just how ignorant you are of environmental laws. Do you suppose wildlife on private land
don't matter?
>What about the fire roads that tear there way through every park system in this
country? You want to see erosion, go check out what they just did to the West Ridge Trail
in Redwood.
That has NOTHING to do with mountain bking, does it?
>Why don't you pick on the park rangers that did that, and try to ban tractors?
I do. You don't.
>What about the impact of horses on trails? And the out of control asses that
ride them? Why don't you try to ban them?
I have. Have YOU? I doubt it. Show me your letters.
>Why don't you go after all ski resorts for clear-cutting to make trails?
I oppose trail construction. YOU don't! Hypocrite.
>Sounds to me like you picked the easiest target and went for it, without
respect to what and how erosion is caused and who's most to blame.
I guess you haven't read my web site. I suggest that you do your homework FIRST, before running off
at the mouth.
>Currently mnt. bikers have less representation than the other groups I
mentioned due to generally low average age and income.
BS. They have a huge lobbying network, including paid lobbyists and lawyers.
> You won't dare go after equestrians, ski resorts or God forbid the park system
for doing much more damage than a bicycle could ever hope to.
I already have, if you would bother to read what I write. Do you realize what a FOOL you sound like?
>You just don't like young people having more fun than you're capable of.
Destroying wildlife habitat is not fun. That just shows how ignorant you are.
>Only in Berkeley will an enviro-extremist like you find an audience.
Actually, I have given papers at environmental conferences all over the world. HAVE YOU? Of
course not.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to
help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to
help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande