Another question for you, Dr. Chung.

(francispoon) said:

I have recently been diagnosed that I have tinnitus. The doctor suggests this type of tinnitus is
related to my vasecular conditions.

Q1: Should I take some synthetic medication to lower my cholestrol level a bit more(currently 5.27
on TC and 2.94 of LDL C) as they are at the high ends of the range?
Q2: If after 3 months, everything is OK and my cholestrol level comes down considerably, could I
discontinue the medication at that time?

THX

FP

..................

"Another question for you, Dr. Chung."

Well, I'm not Dr. Chung, but to my knowledge there is no evidence anywhere in the tinnitus
literature that suggests normalizing cholesterol will impact tinnitus.

Now there is a LOT of evidence that a person is better off from a cardiac standpoint with a normal
lipid profile. So I would follow your doctor's recommendation regarding your cholesterol management
(diet or pharmacological) irrespective of the presence or absence of tinnitus.

One other thing, for what it's worth. I don't know how Dr. Chung feels about this, but you are
asking some specific questions about your case and requesting medical advice. Please know that in
doing so, you put any doctors who wander through here at a disadvantage - and therefore put yourself
at a disadvantage. Maybe it's best to stick to generalities?

Just my $.02 ...

smn

francispoon said:

I have recently been diagnosed that I have tinnitus. The doctor suggests this type of tinnitus is
related to my vasecular conditions.

Q1: Should I take some synthetic medication to lower my cholestrol level a bit more(currently
5.27 on TC and 2.94 of LDL C) as they are at the high ends of the range?

That would be a decision that only you can make after discussing your concerns with your doctor(s).

Quoted message said:

Q2: If after 3 months, everything is OK and my cholestrol level comes down considerably, could I
discontinue the medication at that time?

Ditto.

Quoted message said:

THX

FP

You are welcome.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 13:48:32 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Well, I'm not Dr. Chung,

Neither am I but have you figured that out yet?

Just in case you missed it, here is your TROLL emailer that convinced you, PH.D. and all,
that Mu=Chung.

mattbernsteinsycamore.comphotos.htmlOpen ↗

Btw, are you still a Blimpie's bigot?

antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap031111.htmlOpen ↗ Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

Eclipsed M_unlight said:

Stephen Nagler said:

Well, I'm not Dr. Chung,

Neither am I but have you figured that out yet?

Just in case you missed it, here is your TROLL emailer that convinced you, PH.D. and all, that
Mu=Chung.

.................

And just in case YOU missed it, I'm not a Ph.D.

That makes you Mu, having previously demonstrated that you are the only one here dumb enough not to
know the difference between an M.D. and a Ph.D.

It also makes YOU the troll, [censored].

Now, would you like to try to stay on topic?

(Sorry, now that was a real waste of bytes.)

Folks - Mu, good Christian that he is, has trashed your board ... no doubt in the name of Jesus.
Chung, how can you stand your buddy's stink?

Sheesh.

smn

Stephen Nagler said:

Eclipsed M_unlight said:

Stephen Nagler said:

Well, I'm not Dr. Chung,

Neither am I but have you figured that out yet?

Just in case you missed it, here is your TROLL emailer that convinced you, PH.D. and all, that
Mu=Chung.

.................

And just in case YOU missed it, I'm not a Ph.D.

That makes you Mu, having previously demonstrated that you are the only one here dumb enough not
to know the difference between an M.D. and a Ph.D.

It also makes YOU the troll, [censored].

Now, would you like to try to stay on topic?

(Sorry, now that was a real waste of bytes.)

Folks - Mu, good Christian that he is, has trashed your board ... no doubt in the name of Jesus.
Chung, how can you stand your buddy's stink?

Sheesh.

smn

You're no rose, Stephen.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Stephen Nagler wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Folks - Mu, good Christian that he is, has trashed your board ... no doubt in the name of Jesus.
Chung, how can you stand your buddy's stink?

Sheesh.

smn

You're no rose, Stephen.

The untruthful have a hard time answering a question directly.

Pastorio

Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

(francispoon) said:

I have recently been diagnosed that I have tinnitus. The doctor suggests this type of tinnitus is
related to my vasecular conditions.

Q1: Should I take some synthetic medication to lower my cholestrol level a bit more(currently
5.27 on TC and 2.94 of LDL C) as they are at the high ends of the range?
Q2: If after 3 months, everything is OK and my cholestrol level comes down considerably, could I
discontinue the medication at that time?

THX

FP

..................

"Another question for you, Dr. Chung."

Well, I'm not Dr. Chung, but to my knowledge there is no evidence anywhere in the tinnitus
literature that suggests normalizing cholesterol will impact tinnitus.

Logically speaking, if my tinnitus is related to my vasecular conditions, the lowering of cholestrol
either through drugs or vitamin E would help the vasecular conditions of mine and indirectly help my
tinnitus. Would you think that is a good assumption?

Quoted message said:

Now there is a LOT of evidence that a person is better off from a cardiac standpoint with a normal
lipid profile. So I would follow your doctor's recommendation regarding your cholesterol
management (diet or pharmacological) irrespective of the presence or absence of tinnitus.

One other thing, for what it's worth. I don't know how Dr. Chung feels about this, but you are
asking some specific questions about your case and requesting medical advice. Please know that in
doing so, you put any doctors who wander through here at a disadvantage - and therefore put
yourself at a disadvantage. Maybe it's best to stick to generalities?

I PERFECTLY AGREE. Yes, specifics are restricted to what is between a patient and his doctor.

THX

FP
=======================

Quoted message said:

Just my $.02 ...

smn

Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]> wrote in message snipped...

Quoted message said:

Now there is a LOT of evidence that a person is better off from a cardiac standpoint with a normal
lipid profile. So I would follow your doctor's recommendation regarding your cholesterol
management (diet or pharmacological) irrespective of the presence or absence of tinnitus.

That is a good suggestion but unfortunately 2 doctors of mine do think cleaning up the blood vessels
is part of the solution to tinnitus, the other one, who is a herbalist, obviously disagrees. So in
order to figure out who is revealing the 'truth', i have to judge each of them by the results of
taking the medication they prescribe to me. So far the herbalist makes most sense. His prescribed
medicine has turned the ringing sound into the sound of water flowing through a pipe.

FP
====================

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:51:00 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

And just in case YOU missed it, I'm not a Ph.D.

of education and training have you had?

Quoted message said:

That makes you Mu, having previously demonstrated that you are the only one here dumb enough not to
know the difference between an M.D. and a Ph.D.

Oh I know and I thought it was on your resume. So you were duped by a

you had?

Quoted message said:

It also makes YOU the troll, [censored].

lol

Make up your mind, Nagler. Did you just call Chung an [censored]?

Quoted message said:

Now, would you like to try to stay on topic?

Sure. go right ahead. I'll talk on topic with you. I suppose the following is about tinnitus.

Quoted message said:

Folks - Mu, good Christian that he is, has trashed your board ...

What happened to being "on topic". Since when is Mu the topic? Your stressing, Nagler, I'll bet
being duped by Mattilda has been difficult for you to take.

Quoted message said:

no doubt in the name of Jesus. Chung, how can you stand your buddy's stink?

Wait a minute. Am I Chung or not?

C'mon, Nagler, you're even getting me confused.

antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap031111.htmlOpen ↗ Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:51:00 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

And just in case YOU missed it, I'm not a Ph.D.

He's not noted for getting anything right. No surprise.

Quoted message said:

That makes you Mu, having previously demonstrated that you are the only one here dumb enough not to
know the difference between an M.D. and a Ph.D.

No surprise.

Quoted message said:

It also makes YOU the troll, [censored].

He won't get it. Waste of time to reason. Makes no difference to fanatics.

Quoted message said:

Now, would you like to try to stay on topic?

You've GOT to be kidding. <g> NEVER will that happen.

Quoted message said:

(Sorry, now that was a real waste of bytes.)

True. The only utility is to have a bit of fun. Don't fall into the trap of taking anything they say
seriously. There's nothing there worth taking seriously.

Quoted message said:

Folks - Mu, good Christian that he is, has trashed your board ...

We know this problem well. Not news at all.

Quoted message said:

no doubt in the name of Jesus.

Of course. Birds of a feather...

Quoted message said:

Chung, how can you stand your buddy's stink?

Flock together. He loves his stink. Matt

MD/PhD said:

Quoted message said:

Folks - Mu, good Christian that he is, has trashed your board ... no doubt in the name of Jesus.
Chung, how can you stand your buddy's stink?

Sheesh.

smn

You're no rose, Stephen.

Humbly,

Andrew

But I have a "rose" for him.

mattbernsteinsycamore.comgayshamepic.htmlOpen ↗

I wonder why, when Stephen calls you/me an "[censored]", he conveniently drops alt. support.tinnitus
from his comments?

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Eclipsed M_unlight said:

C'mon, Nagler, you're even getting me confused.

Not a big trick, huh, M_uskrat?

Pastorio

Eclipsed M_unlight said:

MD/PhD said:

Quoted message said:

Folks - Mu, good Christian that he is, has trashed your board ... no doubt in the name of
Jesus. Chung, how can you stand your buddy's stink?

Sheesh.

smn

You're no rose, Stephen.

Humbly,

Andrew

But I have a "rose" for him.

mattbernsteinsycamore.comgayshamepic.htmlOpen ↗

I wonder why, when Stephen calls you/me an "[censored]", he conveniently drops alt. support.tinnitus
from his comments?

In a word: shame.

Poor guy.

He remains in my prayers.

May he accept Christ as his Lord and Savior in 2004.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.comOpen ↗

Eclipsed M_unlight said:

But I have a "rose" for him.

mattbernsteinsycamore.comgayshamepic.htmlOpen ↗

Hey, great thing to stick in there. It doesn't matter that it's irrelevant. We MUST keep pushing
this as hard as possible. If we say it enough times, it will become absolute truth. Doesn't matter
that is not true. People here are stupid and will not know that it's a false.

Quoted message said:

I wonder why, when Stephen calls you/me an "[censored]", he conveniently drops alt. support.tinnitus
from his comments?

Shhhhh. Don't mention that. Somebody will recognize that Stephan is being courteous to the group. We
CAN'T have anyone thinking anything nice about him, can we?

Keep up the good insults. Our one two punch allows us to get in two insults for every post.

HUMBLY! HUMBLY!!! HUMBLY!!!!!! HUMBLY, damn it (just want to make sure you know I'm Humble)

Prophet BenWa (I see into people's hearts)

The Blessed BenWa Chung, PhD/HD/PRD/AD/ADD/PMS (and a few more too) Board-Certified [censored] (Amateur
Detective #4927467) heartsomethingorother.comheartsomethingorother.comOpen ↗ (note the com part)

MD/PhD said:

May he accept Christ as his Lord and Savior in 2004.

..............

Cut the condescending [censored], Chung.

The way I see it, when the REAL Messiah comes, he'll stay.

You, of course, are free to have your own beliefs, and I respect that right. Even though I believe
you are wrong every bit as much as you believe I am wrong.

Yours not in Christ.

smn

Dr. Andrew B. Chung said:

Eclipsed M_unlight said:

MD/PhD said:

>Folks - Mu, good Christian that he is, has trashed your board ... no doubt in the name of Jesus.
>Chung, how can you stand your buddy's stink?
>
>Sheesh.
>
>smn

You're no rose, Stephen.

The untruthful have a hard time answering straightforward questions.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Humbly,

Andrew

But I have a "rose" for him.

mattbernsteinsycamore.comgayshamepic.htmlOpen ↗

I wonder why, when Stephen calls you/me an "[censored]", he conveniently drops alt. support.tinnitus
from his comments?

He would leave it in "for your convenience" if you were a regular subscriber. With the same
Christian charity that Chung shows.

Quoted message said:

In a word: shame.

Poor guy.

He remains in my prayers.

Chung thinks it ok to make hateful homophobic comments. How loving of all God's creatures he is.

Pastorio

Could you folks kindly cease cross-flaming? Thank you.

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 01:13:47 GMT, Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Cut the condescending [censored], Chung.

This is Mu, not Chung. You have been had by TROLL Mattilda who has convinced you, with all your
education and training, that Mu=Chung.

Here is the Xdressing weirdo that sucked you in.

mattbernsteinsycamore.comgayshamepic.htmlOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

The way I see it, when the REAL Messiah comes, he'll stay.

He has. You simply do not see Him.

Quoted message said:

You, of course, are free to have your own beliefs, and I respect that right. Even though I believe
you are wrong every bit as much as you believe I am wrong.

Yours not in Christ.

Yes, how sad for you to pick eternal damnation.

I understand the difficulties that Jews have in accepting Christ. I wish you best of luck in facing
those and overcoming them.

But, bottom line, you're screwed blue and tattooed.

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Jeff Radom said:

Could you folks kindly cease cross-flaming? Thank you.

...............

Jeff -

Should you peek in here again, please note that it's a classic TROLL strategy that Mu has down to a
science. My posts in this thread appear only on sci.med.cardiology - unless they are purposely
quoted somewhere else by a TROLL.

smn