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  1. Support Care Cancer. 2003 Feb;11(2):126-8. Epub 2002 Dec 07. Related Articles, Links

    Successful treatment of intractable hiccup with methylphenidate in a lung cancer patient.

    Marechal R, Berghmans T, Sculier P.

    Department of Internal Medicine, Institut Jules Bordet, Centre des tumeurs de l'Universite Libre de
    Bruxelles, Brussels, Belgium.

    In a 56-year-old man with metastatic small-cell lung cancer, a persistent hiccup was refractory to
    classic treatments. Hyponatremia, neoplasic mediastinal involvement and liver metastases were though
    to be potential causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous system (CNS)
    stimulant that is most commonly used for the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder,
    was started at a daily dose of 10 mg. It was rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report
    suggests a potential advantage of MTP in the treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer patients.

    Publication Types: Case Reports

    PMID: 12560943 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

  2. "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous system (CNS) stimulant that is
    most commonly used for the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at a
    daily dose of 10 mg. It


    was

    Quoted message said:

    rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a potential advantage of MTP in the
    treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer


    patients.

    Did the study say whether the patient was able to get off the drugs when he was given a chance?

  3. "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Support Care Cancer. 2003 Feb;11(2):126-8. Epub 2002 Dec 07. Related Articles, Links

    Successful treatment of intractable hiccup with methylphenidate in a lung cancer patient.

    Marechal R, Berghmans T, Sculier P.

    Department of Internal Medicine, Institut Jules Bordet, Centre des tumeurs de l'Universite Libre
    de Bruxelles, Brussels, Belgium.

    In a 56-year-old man with metastatic small-cell lung cancer, a persistent hiccup was refractory to
    classic treatments. Hyponatremia, neoplasic mediastinal involvement and liver metastases were
    though to be potential causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous system
    (CNS) stimulant that is most commonly used for the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity
    disorder, was started at a daily dose of 10 mg. It


    was

    Quoted message said:

    rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a potential advantage of MTP in the
    treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer


    patients.

    Quoted message said:


    Publication Types: Case Reports

    PMID: 12560943 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    Stand by for Jan to accuse you again of "pushing drugs."

    --Rich

  4. "Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous system (CNS) stimulant that is
    most commonly used for the treatment of


    attention

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at a daily dose of 10 mg. It


    was

    Quoted message said:

    rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a potential advantage of MTP in the
    treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer


    patients.

    Did the study say whether the patient was able to get off the drugs when he was given a chance?

    You have read the article and now can read the abstract.

  5. "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote in


    message

    Quoted message said:

    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Support Care Cancer. 2003 Feb;11(2):126-8. Epub 2002 Dec 07. Related Articles, Links

    Successful treatment of intractable hiccup with methylphenidate in a


    lung

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cancer patient.

    Marechal R, Berghmans T, Sculier P.

    Department of Internal Medicine, Institut Jules Bordet, Centre des


    tumeurs

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    de l'Universite Libre de Bruxelles, Brussels, Belgium.

    In a 56-year-old man with metastatic small-cell lung cancer, a


    persistent

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    hiccup was refractory to classic treatments. Hyponatremia, neoplasic mediastinal involvement and
    liver metastases were though to be potential causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild
    central nervous system (CNS) stimulant that is most commonly used for the treatment of


    attention

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at a daily dose of 10 mg. It


    was

    Quoted message said:

    rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a potential advantage of MTP in the
    treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer


    patients.

    Quoted message said:


    Publication Types: Case Reports

    PMID: 12560943 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    Stand by for Jan to accuse you again of "pushing drugs."

    Question: Who is brighter in this area, atlASS, Jan or Roger?

  6. "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote in


    message

    Quoted message said:

    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Support Care Cancer. 2003 Feb;11(2):126-8. Epub 2002 Dec 07. Related Articles, Links

    Successful treatment of intractable hiccup with methylphenidate in a


    lung

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cancer patient.

    Marechal R, Berghmans T, Sculier P.

    Department of Internal Medicine, Institut Jules Bordet, Centre des


    tumeurs

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    de l'Universite Libre de Bruxelles, Brussels, Belgium.

    In a 56-year-old man with metastatic small-cell lung cancer, a


    persistent

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    hiccup was refractory to classic treatments. Hyponatremia, neoplasic mediastinal involvement
    and liver metastases were though to be


    potential

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous


    system

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (CNS) stimulant that is most commonly used for the treatment of


    attention

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at a daily dose of 10 mg.


    It

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was

    Quoted message said:

    rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a potential advantage of MTP in the
    treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer


    patients.

    Quoted message said:


    Publication Types: Case Reports

    PMID: 12560943 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    Stand by for Jan to accuse you again of "pushing drugs."

    Question: Who is brighter in this area, atlASS, Jan or Roger?

    Here's my experience in incountering addictive drugs, in order of their impact on the
    emergency room:

    1. Alcohol. Shows up both as acute intoxication as well as a precipitating factor in motor vehicle
    accidents and assaults.

    2. Tobacco. Emphysema and COPD account for fewer ER visits than alcohol, but cigarettes are probably
    responsible for more preventable disease and death than booze.

    3. (In Hawaii) Methamphetimine. Known locally as "Ice," this drug destroys lives at a horrific rate.
    ER visits are usually psychiatric in nature, but there are occasional acute cardiac events and
    sometimes deaths.

    4. Heroin. Less addictive than tobacco or ice, but occasional overdoses and sometimes death occur.

    5. Other narcotics. Pill abusers seldom show up in the ER except as "drug seekers."

    6. Cannabis. I've seen two ER visits in 25 years from pakalolo. Both were anxiety attacks.

    7. Everything else. When I was in New Jersey, Phencyclidine, known there by its street name "boat"
    caused many disruptive ER visits. "Crack" cocaine caused problems, including an occasional
    fatality from cardiac arrhythmia. I've seen a couple of ER cases from Quaalude, and one from LSD.

    So what's the point of all this? I'VE NEVER SEEN A RITALIN ADDICT SHOW UP IN THE ER!

    I'm not saying that no ritalin addiction occurs, but considering that it is not an uncommon drug,
    the fact that ritalin addiction does not present in the ER indicates that it is probably rare, or at
    least seldom acute or severe enough to precipitate major health problems.

    --Rich

  7. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Another use for Ritalin
    From: "Roger Schlafly" [email hidden]
    Date: 12/18/2003 4:33 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous system (CNS) stimulant that is
    most commonly used for the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at
    a daily dose of 10 mg. It


    was

    Quoted message said:

    rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a potential advantage of MTP in the
    treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer


    patients.

    Did the study say whether the patient was able to get off the drugs when he was given a chance?

    Poor Mark. Ritalin is the answer to everything. I wonder how much stock he owns?

    chirousa.comintouch.asp

    Ritalin Acts Much Like Cocaine

    The August 22, 2001 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association reports that
    researchers have found that the drug Ritalin, used in children with the so-called disorder ADD/ADHD,
    has a more potent effect on the brain than cocaine.

    The research was done at Brookhaven National Laboratory in Upton, New York. The study used brain
    imaging to discover that Ritalin, which has the same chemical profile as cocaine, occupied more of
    the receptor sites in the brain responsible for the cocaine "high" than cocaine itself did.

    Cocaine is known to occupy about 50% of the receptor sites available. This study found that Ritalin
    blocks 20% more sites than cocaine. Lead researcher
    Dr. Nora Volkow said, "the data clearly show the notion that Ritalin is a weak stimulant is
    completely incorrect."

    In commentary, what can we say? Putting millions of children around the world on drugs that are
    chemically similar to and more potent than cocaine for a disorder that is questionable to begin with
    is extremely dangerous.

    drhull.comPedSPAM Nov01.html

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------
    Monday, November 5: In a presentation at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Child and
    Adolescent Psychiatry in Oahu, Hawaii, researchers report that children with children with attention
    deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are half as likely to become substance abusers if they receive
    treatment with a stimulant such as methylphenidate (Ritalin®).Reuters Health

    Jan

  8. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Another use for Ritalin From: "Roger Schlafly" [email hidden] Date:
    12/18/2003 4:33 PM Central Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous system (CNS) stimulant that is
    most commonly used for the treatment of


    attention

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at a daily dose of 10 mg.


    It

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was

    Quoted message said:

    rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a potential advantage of MTP in the
    treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer


    patients.

    Did the study say whether the patient was able to get off the drugs when he was given a chance?

    Poor Mark. Ritalin is the answer to everything. I wonder how much stock he owns?


    < irrelavant propaganda snipped >

    Quoted message said:


    Jan

    I hate to say "I told you so, but..."

    ;o) Rich --> Actually, I love to say "I told you so."

  9. He had metastatic lung cancer - doubtful if he had the chance. Anth

    "Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous system (CNS) stimulant that is
    most commonly used for the treatment of


    attention

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at a daily dose of 10 mg. It


    was

    Quoted message said:

    rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a potential advantage of MTP in the
    treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer


    patients.

    Did the study say whether the patient was able to get off the drugs when he was given a chance?

  10. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Another use for Ritalin From: "Roger Schlafly" [email hidden] Date:
    12/18/2003 4:33 PM Central Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous system (CNS) stimulant that is
    most commonly used for the treatment of


    attention

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at a daily dose of 10 mg.


    It

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was

    Quoted message said:

    rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a potential advantage of MTP in the
    treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer


    patients.

    Did the study say whether the patient was able to get off the drugs when he was given a chance?

    Poor Mark. Ritalin is the answer to everything. I wonder how much stock he owns?

    Chronic hiccupping must be torture and to subject a person who is about to die to more torture
    is horrid.

    Quoted message said:

    chirousa.comintouch.asp

    Ritalin Acts Much Like Cocaine

    The August 22, 2001 issue of the Journal of the American Medical


    Association

    Quoted message said:

    reports that researchers have found that the drug Ritalin, used in


    children

    Quoted message said:

    with the so-called disorder ADD/ADHD, has a more potent effect on the


    brain

    Quoted message said:

    than cocaine.

    The research was done at Brookhaven National Laboratory in Upton, New


    York. The

    Quoted message said:

    study used brain imaging to discover that Ritalin, which has the same


    chemical

    Quoted message said:

    profile as cocaine, occupied more of the receptor sites in the brain responsible for the cocaine
    "high" than cocaine itself did.

    Cocaine is known to occupy about 50% of the receptor sites available. This study found that
    Ritalin blocks 20% more sites than cocaine. Lead


    researcher

    Quoted message said:

    Dr. Nora Volkow said, "the data clearly show the notion that Ritalin is a


    weak

    Quoted message said:

    stimulant is completely incorrect."

    In commentary, what can we say? Putting millions of children around the


    world

    Quoted message said:

    on drugs that are chemically similar to and more potent than cocaine for a disorder that is
    questionable to begin with is extremely dangerous.

    drhull.comPedSPAM Nov01.html

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------
    Monday, November 5: In a presentation at the annual meeting of the


    American

    Quoted message said:

    Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry in Oahu, Hawaii, researchers


    report

    Quoted message said:

    that children with children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are half as
    likely to become substance abusers if they receive


    treatment

    Quoted message said:

    with a stimulant such as methylphenidate (Ritalin®).Reuters Health

    Jan

  11. "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Another use for Ritalin From: "Roger Schlafly" [email hidden] Date:
    12/18/2003 4:33 PM Central Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote
    > causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous


    system

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > (CNS) stimulant that is most commonly used for the treatment of


    attention

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at a daily dose of 10 mg.


    It

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was
    > rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a


    potential

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > advantage of MTP in the treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer
    patients.

    Did the study say whether the patient was able to get off the drugs


    when

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    he was given a chance?

    Poor Mark. Ritalin is the answer to everything. I wonder how much stock


    he

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    owns?


    < irrelavant propaganda snipped >

    Quoted message said:


    Jan

    I hate to say "I told you so, but..."

    ;o) Rich --> Actually, I love to say "I told you so."

    I like saying"

    I expected her to do so. She is totally incapable of dealing with the facts.

    She is so evil that she wobviously supports torturing a person who is terminally ill.

  12. "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > Support Care Cancer. 2003 Feb;11(2):126-8. Epub 2002 Dec 07. Related Articles, Links
    >
    >
    > Successful treatment of intractable hiccup with methylphenidate in a


    lung

    Quoted message said:

    > cancer patient.
    >
    > Marechal R, Berghmans T, Sculier P.
    >
    > Department of Internal Medicine, Institut Jules Bordet, Centre des


    tumeurs

    Quoted message said:

    > de l'Universite Libre de Bruxelles, Brussels, Belgium.
    >
    > In a 56-year-old man with metastatic small-cell lung cancer, a


    persistent

    Quoted message said:

    > hiccup was refractory to classic treatments. Hyponatremia, neoplasic mediastinal involvement
    > and liver metastases were though to be


    potential

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous


    system

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > (CNS) stimulant that is most commonly used for the treatment of


    attention

    Quoted message said:

    > deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at a daily dose of 10


    mg.

    Quoted message said:

    It

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was
    > rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a


    potential

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > advantage of MTP in the treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer
    patients.
    >
    > Publication Types: Case Reports
    >
    > PMID: 12560943 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
    >
    >

    Stand by for Jan to accuse you again of "pushing drugs."

    Question: Who is brighter in this area, atlASS, Jan or Roger?

    Here's my experience in incountering addictive drugs, in order of their impact on the
    emergency room:

    1. Alcohol. Shows up both as acute intoxication as well as a


    precipitating

    Quoted message said:

    factor in motor vehicle accidents and assaults.

    2. Tobacco. Emphysema and COPD account for fewer ER visits than alcohol,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    cigarettes are probably responsible for more preventable disease and death than booze.

    3. (In Hawaii) Methamphetimine. Known locally as "Ice," this drug destroys lives at a horrific
    rate. ER visits are usually psychiatric in nature, but there are occasional acute cardiac
    events and sometimes deaths.

    4. Heroin. Less addictive than tobacco or ice, but occasional overdoses


    and

    Quoted message said:

    sometimes death occur.

    5. Other narcotics. Pill abusers seldom show up in the ER except as "drug seekers."

    6. Cannabis. I've seen two ER visits in 25 years from pakalolo. Both were anxiety attacks.

    7. Everything else. When I was in New Jersey, Phencyclidine, known there


    by

    Quoted message said:

    its street name "boat" caused many disruptive ER visits. "Crack" cocaine caused problems,
    including an occasional fatality from cardiac arrhythmia. I've seen a couple of ER cases from
    Quaalude, and one from LSD.

    So what's the point of all this? I'VE NEVER SEEN A RITALIN ADDICT SHOW UP


    IN

    Quoted message said:

    THE ER!

    I'm not saying that no ritalin addiction occurs, but considering that it


    is

    Quoted message said:

    not an uncommon drug, the fact that ritalin addiction does not present in the ER indicates that it
    is probably rare, or at least seldom acute or severe enough to precipitate major health problems.

    Careful, Jan will accuse you of being a liar.

  13. Marciosos7 Probertiosos8 said:

    "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote in

    message

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    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    >"Marciosos7 Probertiosos7" <[email hidden]> wrote in

    message

    >"]news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >>Support Care Cancer. 2003 Feb;11(2):126-8. Epub 2002 Dec 07. Related Articles, Links
    >>
    >>
    >>Successful treatment of intractable hiccup with methylphenidate in a

    lung

    >>cancer patient.
    >>
    >>Marechal R, Berghmans T, Sculier P.
    >>
    >>Department of Internal Medicine, Institut Jules Bordet, Centre des

    tumeurs

    >>de l'Universite Libre de Bruxelles, Brussels, Belgium.
    >>
    >>In a 56-year-old man with metastatic small-cell lung cancer, a

    persistent

    >>hiccup was refractory to classic treatments. Hyponatremia, neoplasic mediastinal involvement
    >>and liver metastases were though to be

    potential

    Quoted message said:

    >>causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous

    system

    Quoted message said:

    >>(CNS) stimulant that is most commonly used for the treatment of

    attention

    >>deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at a daily dose of 10

    mg.

    Quoted message said:

    It

    Quoted message said:

    >was
    >
    >>rapidly efficient and well tolerated. This report suggests a

    potential

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>advantage of MTP in the treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer
    >
    >patients.
    >
    >>Publication Types: Case Reports
    >>
    >>PMID: 12560943 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    >Stand by for Jan to accuse you again of "pushing drugs."

    Question: Who is brighter in this area, atlASS, Jan or Roger?

    Here's my experience in incountering addictive drugs, in order of their impact on the
    emergency room:

    1. Alcohol. Shows up both as acute intoxication as well as a

    precipitating

    Quoted message said:

    factor in motor vehicle accidents and assaults.

    2. Tobacco. Emphysema and COPD account for fewer ER visits than alcohol,

    but

    Quoted message said:

    cigarettes are probably responsible for more preventable disease and death than booze.

    3. (In Hawaii) Methamphetimine. Known locally as "Ice," this drug destroys lives at a horrific
    rate. ER visits are usually psychiatric in nature, but there are occasional acute cardiac
    events and sometimes deaths.

    4. Heroin. Less addictive than tobacco or ice, but occasional overdoses

    and

    Quoted message said:

    sometimes death occur.

    5. Other narcotics. Pill abusers seldom show up in the ER except as "drug seekers."

    6. Cannabis. I've seen two ER visits in 25 years from pakalolo. Both were anxiety attacks.

    7. Everything else. When I was in New Jersey, Phencyclidine, known there

    by

    Quoted message said:

    its street name "boat" caused many disruptive ER visits. "Crack" cocaine caused problems,
    including an occasional fatality from cardiac arrhythmia. I've seen a couple of ER cases from
    Quaalude, and one from LSD.

    So what's the point of all this? I'VE NEVER SEEN A RITALIN ADDICT SHOW UP

    IN

    Quoted message said:

    THE ER!

    I'm not saying that no ritalin addiction occurs, but considering that it

    is

    Quoted message said:

    not an uncommon drug, the fact that ritalin addiction does not present in the ER indicates that it
    is probably rare, or at least seldom acute or severe enough to precipitate major health problems.

    Careful, Jan will accuse you of being a liar.

    IIRC, a few months back, I had an exchange of posts with Jan on the subject of ER visits for
    methylphenidate abuse after she posted a claim that ER admissions for methylphenidate abuse was
    growing at an alarming rate.

    As I told Jan then, the US federal government tracks US "ED mentions" through DAWN (Drug Abuse
    Warning Network). dawninfo.samhsa.govdawninfo.samhsa.gov

    I gave Jan some of the info taken from the DAWN reports that indicated that methylphenidate abuse
    was declining, not growing, but she didn't seem to care that the DAWN figures contradicted her
    claim, ignoring them while she continued to claim that methylphenidate was extremely dangerous.

    Here's some of the info in DAWN's various reports WRT abuse of methylphenidate.

    - Methylphenidate results in well over a hundred thousand fewer ER visits than cocaine each year and--
    to add some perspective-- tens-of-thousands fewer emergency room visits resulting from abuse than
    the common over-the-counter medication acetaminophen (Tylenol and the like).

    The DAWN statistics for the number of emergency room mentions for methylphenidate (Ritalin),
    cocaine, and acetaminophen (Tylenol and similar medications) are:

    1997 Cocaine--161,087 Acetaminophen--35,448 Methylphenidate--2,474

    1998 Cocaine--172,014 Acetaminophen--32,257 Methylphenidate--1,728

    1999 Cocaine--168,763 Acetaminophen--28,258 Methylphenidate--1,478

    2000 Cocaine--174,896 Acetaminophen--33,613 Methylphenidate--1,487

    2001 Cocaine--193,034 Acetaminophen--30,888 Methylphenidate--1,279

    DAWN reports that in 2002 the total number of US ED mentions for methylphenidate was 1,235,
    continuing the decline seen in previous years.

    Here's some other information from the DAWN reports:

    - Of the "Top 150 ED (Emergency Department) drug abuse episodes by frequency 2001", methylphenidate
    ranked 71st (.11%).

    - The Top 25 from DAWN's list of "Top 150 drug mentions for 2001" (plus, for comparison the rankings
    for aspirin, caffeine and methylphenidate) are:

    1. alcohol-in-combination
    2. cocaine
    3. cannabis
    4. heroin
    5. narcotic analgesics-NOS
    6. acetaminophen (Tylenol and similar name brand and generic drugs)
    7. benzodiazepines-NOS
    8. alprazolam
    9. drug unknown
    10. clonazepam
    11. acetaminophen-hydrocodone
    12. amphetamine
    13. ibuprofen
    14. methamphetamine
    15. lorazepam
    16. diazepam
    17. carisoprodol
    18. oxycodone
    19. methadone
    20. trazodone
    21. paroxetine
    22. zolpidem
    23. diphenhydramine
    24. barbiturates-NOS
    25. acetaminophen-oxycodone ...
    26. aspirin ...
    27. caffeine ...
    28. methylphenidate

    DAWN also puts out a list of 15 "Major Substances of Abuse." It looks to me as if the list has
    remained unchanged from 1995-2002, and lists these drugs in order:

    29. Alcohol-in-combination
    30. Cocaine
    31. Heroin
    32. Marijuana
    33. Amphetamines
    34. Methamphetamine
    35. MDMA (Ecstasy)
    36. Ketamine
    37. LSD
    38. PCP
    39. Miscellaneous hallucinogens
    40. Flunitrazepam (Rohypnol)
    41. GHB
    42. Inhalants
    43. Combinations NTA

    As you can see, methylphenidate is not listed.

    Nancy Unique, like everyone else

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    >>>Support Care Cancer. 2003 Feb;11(2):126-8. Epub 2002 Dec 07. Related Articles, Links
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    >>>Successful treatment of intractable hiccup with methylphenidate in a
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    >>>cancer patient.
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    >>>Marechal R, Berghmans T, Sculier P.
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    >>>Department of Internal Medicine, Institut Jules Bordet, Centre des
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    >>>de l'Universite Libre de Bruxelles, Brussels, Belgium.
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    >>>In a 56-year-old man with metastatic small-cell lung cancer, a
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    >>>hiccup was refractory to classic treatments. Hyponatremia, neoplasic mediastinal involvement
    >>>and liver metastases were though to be

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    >>>causative factors. Methylphenidate (MTP), a mild central nervous

    system

    >>>(CNS) stimulant that is most commonly used for the treatment of
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    >>>deficit hyperactivity disorder, was started at a daily dose of 10

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    >>>advantage of MTP in the treatment of intractable hiccup in cancer
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    >>>Publication Types: Case Reports
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    >>Stand by for Jan to accuse you again of "pushing drugs."
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    >Question: Who is brighter in this area, atlASS, Jan or Roger?
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    Here's my experience in incountering addictive drugs, in order of their impact on the
    emergency room:

    1. Alcohol. Shows up both as acute intoxication as well as a

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    2. Tobacco. Emphysema and COPD account for fewer ER visits than alcohol,

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    cigarettes are probably responsible for more preventable disease and


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    than booze.

    3. (In Hawaii) Methamphetimine. Known locally as "Ice," this drug


    destroys

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    lives at a horrific rate. ER visits are usually psychiatric in nature,


    but

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    there are occasional acute cardiac events and sometimes deaths.

    4. Heroin. Less addictive than tobacco or ice, but occasional overdoses

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    sometimes death occur.

    5. Other narcotics. Pill abusers seldom show up in the ER except as


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    seekers."

    6. Cannabis. I've seen two ER visits in 25 years from pakalolo. Both


    were

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    anxiety attacks.

    7. Everything else. When I was in New Jersey, Phencyclidine, known there

    by

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    its street name "boat" caused many disruptive ER visits. "Crack" cocaine caused problems,
    including an occasional fatality from cardiac


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    I've seen a couple of ER cases from Quaalude, and one from LSD.

    So what's the point of all this? I'VE NEVER SEEN A RITALIN ADDICT SHOW


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    THE ER!

    I'm not saying that no ritalin addiction occurs, but considering that it

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    the ER indicates that it is probably rare, or at least seldom acute or severe enough to
    precipitate major health problems.

    Careful, Jan will accuse you of being a liar.

    IIRC, a few months back, I had an exchange of posts with Jan on the subject of ER visits for
    methylphenidate abuse after she posted a claim that ER admissions for methylphenidate abuse was
    growing at an alarming rate.

    As I told Jan then, the US federal government tracks US "ED mentions" through DAWN (Drug Abuse
    Warning Network). dawninfo.samhsa.govdawninfo.samhsa.gov

    I gave Jan some of the info taken from the DAWN reports that indicated that methylphenidate abuse
    was declining, not growing, but she didn't seem to care that the DAWN figures contradicted her
    claim, ignoring them while she continued to claim that methylphenidate was extremely dangerous.

    Here's some of the info in DAWN's various reports WRT abuse of methylphenidate.

    - Methylphenidate results in well over a hundred thousand fewer ER visits than cocaine each year
    and--to add some perspective-- tens-of-thousands fewer emergency room visits resulting from
    abuse than the common over-the-counter medication acetaminophen (Tylenol and the


    like).

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    The DAWN statistics for the number of emergency room mentions for methylphenidate (Ritalin),
    cocaine, and acetaminophen (Tylenol and similar medications) are:

    1997 Cocaine--161,087 Acetaminophen--35,448 Methylphenidate--2,474

    1998 Cocaine--172,014 Acetaminophen--32,257 Methylphenidate--1,728

    1999 Cocaine--168,763 Acetaminophen--28,258 Methylphenidate--1,478

    2000 Cocaine--174,896 Acetaminophen--33,613 Methylphenidate--1,487

    2001 Cocaine--193,034 Acetaminophen--30,888 Methylphenidate--1,279

    DAWN reports that in 2002 the total number of US ED mentions for methylphenidate was 1,235,
    continuing the decline seen in previous years.

    Here's some other information from the DAWN reports:

    - Of the "Top 150 ED (Emergency Department) drug abuse episodes by frequency 2001",
    methylphenidate ranked 71st (.11%).

    - The Top 25 from DAWN's list of "Top 150 drug mentions for 2001" (plus, for comparison the
    rankings for aspirin, caffeine and methylphenidate) are:

    1. alcohol-in-combination
    2. cocaine
    3. cannabis
    4. heroin
    5. narcotic analgesics-NOS
    6. acetaminophen (Tylenol and similar name brand and generic drugs)
    7. benzodiazepines-NOS
    8. alprazolam
    9. drug unknown
    10. clonazepam
    11. acetaminophen-hydrocodone
    12. amphetamine
    13. ibuprofen
    14. methamphetamine
    15. lorazepam
    16. diazepam
    17. carisoprodol
    18. oxycodone
    19. methadone
    20. trazodone
    21. paroxetine
    22. zolpidem
    23. diphenhydramine
    24. barbiturates-NOS
    25. acetaminophen-oxycodone ...
    28. aspirin ...
    58. caffeine ...
    71. methylphenidate

    DAWN also puts out a list of 15 "Major Substances of Abuse." It looks to me as if the list has
    remained unchanged from 1995-2002, and lists these drugs in order:

    1. Alcohol-in-combination
    2. Cocaine
    3. Heroin
    4. Marijuana
    5. Amphetamines
    6. Methamphetamine
    7. MDMA (Ecstasy)
    8. Ketamine
    9. LSD
    10. PCP
    11. Miscellaneous hallucinogens
    12. Flunitrazepam (Rohypnol)
    13. GHB
    14. Inhalants
    15. Combinations NTA

    As you can see, methylphenidate is not listed.

    Jan is going to call you a liar.

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