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Anti-vax 10 Commandments

Peter Bowditch · 2004-02-29T07:31:16+00:00

As part of a project on the anti-vaccination religion, I have uncovered some ancient manuscripts containing the Anti-vax 10 Commandments. 1. Thou shalt have no opinion about vaccination except that it is evil. 2. Thou shalt not take unto thee any properly conducted scientific research showing the safety or efficacy of vaccines, whether conducted in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not agree with it, nor accept it. 3. Thou shalt not accept any notion favourable to vaccination 4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work, for in six days 16,800 children will die of measles alone and on the seventh 2,800 will die while you are resting 5. Honour those who speak out against vaccination that thy days may be long and children's days may be short. 6. Thou shalt not kill, except by vaccine-preventable disease. verily it has been said of those who suffer thus: "It is their fault". 7. Thou shalt not steal, unless it be the lives and health of children that is stolen. 8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour, unless thy neighbour works in vaccination research in which case thou mayest say anything about him regardless of truth. 9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's knowledge of science, medicine or morals, for such knowledge may cause thee to accept the value of vaccination. -- Peter Bowditch The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 http://www.ratbags.com/loon To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

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Peter Bowditch
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29 February 2004, 07:31 UTC #1

As part of a project on the anti-vaccination religion, I have uncovered some ancient manuscripts
containing the Anti-vax 10 Commandments.
1. Thou shalt have no opinion about vaccination except that it is evil.
2. Thou shalt not take unto thee any properly conducted scientific research showing the safety or
efficacy of vaccines, whether conducted in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the water
under the earth: Thou shalt not agree with it, nor accept it.
3. Thou shalt not accept any notion favourable to vaccination
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work, for
in six days 16,800 children will die of measles alone and on the seventh 2,800 will die while you
are resting
5. Honour those who speak out against vaccination that thy days may be long and children's days
may be short.
6. Thou shalt not kill, except by vaccine-preventable disease.
verily it has been said of those who suffer thus: "It is their fault".
7. Thou shalt not steal, unless it be the lives and health of children that is stolen.
8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour, unless thy neighbour works in
vaccination research in which case thou mayest say anything about him regardless of truth.
9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's knowledge of science, medicine or morals, for such knowledge
may cause thee to accept the value of vaccination.
--
Peter Bowditch
The Millenium Project ratbags.comrsoles
The Green Light ratbags.comgreenlight
and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 ratbags.comloon
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

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Jan
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29 February 2004, 08:10 UTC #2

Quoted message said:
Subject: Anti-vax 10 Commandments
From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
Date: 2/28/2004 11:21 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>
As part of a project on the anti-vaccination religion
There is no such thing.
TEN COMMANDMENTS Revised Standard Version Exodus 20:1-17
1. And God spoke all these words, saying,
2. "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3. "You shall have no other gods before me.
4. "You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven
above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
5. you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting
the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those
who hate me,
6. but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
7. "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him
guiltless who takes his name in vain.
8. "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work;
10. but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you, or
your son, or your daughter, your manservant, or your maidservant, or your cattle, or the
sojourner who is within your gates;
11. for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the
seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it.
12. "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the LORD your
God gives you.
13. "You shall not kill.
14. "You shall not commit adultery.
15. "You shall not steal.
16. "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
17. "You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his
manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his ass, or anything that is your neighbor's."

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Carole
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29 February 2004, 11:50 UTC #3

Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
As part of a project on the anti-vaccination religion, I have uncovered some ancient manuscripts
containing the Anti-vax 10 Commandments.
Who would trust a medical monopoly which systematically suppresses cures because they can't be
patented and make big money for the pharmaceutical business?
They say vaccinations are part of a responsible health regime, but they say a lot of things like the
war in Iraq was all about WMD.
Why are cures for so many chronic diseases always just around the corner?
Did you know that cures for most diseases have already been discovered but have to be kept quiet out
of fear of reprisals?
Did you know that The American Medical Association was chartered by the English crown and is
therefore a "foreign agent".
Why trust conventional medicine?
Carole austarmetro.com.auhealth.htm

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Hotmoon
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29 February 2004, 14:27 UTC #4

Peter,
Although I am generally not real crazy about vaccinations, and although my own son was hurt by one
(not disabled, just hurt), I appreciate your desire that people not be doctrinaire and/or fanatical
about this (or any other matter). I will be getting flu shot when they are available and necessary.
However, be that as it may, this, your quote of the number of deaths from measles is complete bunk:
Quoted message said:
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work, for
in six days 16,800 children will die of measles alone and on the seventh 2,800 will die while
you are resting
Another point: It would be typical of hard scientists/left brain types to fail to see the suble and
negative changes that can take place in a child after they have had a vaccination. Of course, in
some case, such changes may be acceptable if worse harm can be avoided.

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Hotmoon
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29 February 2004, 14:27 UTC #5

Peter,
Although I am generally not real crazy about vaccinations, and although my own son was hurt by one
(not disabled, just hurt), I appreciate your desire that people not be doctrinaire and/or fanatical
about this (or any other matter). I will be getting flu shot when they are available and necessary.
However, be that as it may, this, your quote of the number of deaths from measles is complete bunk:
Quoted message said:
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work, for
in six days 16,800 children will die of measles alone and on the seventh 2,800 will die while
you are resting
Another point: It would be typical of hard scientists/left brain types to fail to see the suble and
negative changes that can take place in a child after they have had a vaccination. Of course, in
some case, such changes may be acceptable if worse harm can be avoided.

Report
Doug
Archived post

29 February 2004, 14:27 UTC #6

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Subject: Anti-vax 10 Commandments From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden] Date: 2/28/2004
11:21 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>
As part of a project on the anti-vaccination religion
There is no such thing.
TEN COMMANDMENTS Revised Standard Version Exodus 20:1-17
1. And God spoke all these words, saying,
2. "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out

of
Quoted message said:
the house of bondage.
3. "You shall have no other gods before me.
4. "You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of

anything
Quoted message said:
that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in

the
Quoted message said:
water under the earth;
5. you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God

am a
Quoted message said:
jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth
generation of those who hate me,
6. but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep

my
Quoted message said:
commandments.
7. "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain; for the LORD

will
Quoted message said:
not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.
8. "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work;
10. but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God; in it you

shall not
Quoted message said:
do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your manservant, or your maidservant, or your
cattle, or the sojourner who is within your gates;
11. for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that

is in
Quoted message said:
them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath

day
Quoted message said:
and hallowed it.
12. "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the

land
Quoted message said:
which the LORD your God gives you.
13. "You shall not kill.
14. "You shall not commit adultery.
15. "You shall not steal.
16. "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
17. "You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his
manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his

ass,
Quoted message said:
or anything that is your neighbor's."

I count 15. Did you find the extra table that Moses broke by mistake?
--
"The emperor is naked!"
"No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"
to email me
Please remove "all your clothes"
Doug

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Doug
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29 February 2004, 14:27 UTC #7

"Carole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
As part of a project on the anti-vaccination religion, I have uncovered some ancient manuscripts
containing the Anti-vax 10 Commandments.
Who would trust a medical monopoly which systematically suppresses cures because they can't be
patented and make big money for the pharmaceutical business?
Would you trust a medical monopoly that ignored 'cures' that were never shown to work.
Quoted message said:

They say vaccinations are part of a responsible health regime, but they say a lot of things like
the war in Iraq was all about WMD.
Two different 'theys'.
Quoted message said:
Why are cures for so many chronic diseases always just around the corner?
Cause once the cure is available the disease is no longer chronic, so they have to move onto new
chronic diseases.
Quoted message said:

Did you know that cures for most diseases have already been discovered but have to be kept quiet
out of fear of reprisals?
Did you know you spew a lot of [censored]?
Quoted message said:

Did you know that The American Medical Association was chartered by the English crown and is
therefore a "foreign agent".
Forein to who? I thought you were an Aussie and therefore still subject to the English crown? Or
were you one of those not too brights that were complaining when Jonnie Howard took away your guns
that you had a 'constitutional right'.
Quoted message said:

Why trust conventional medicine?
Why trust loonies like Carole?
Quoted message said:

Carole austarmetro.com.auhealth.htm

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Doug
Archived post

29 February 2004, 14:27 UTC #8

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Subject: Anti-vax 10 Commandments From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden] Date: 2/28/2004
11:21 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>
As part of a project on the anti-vaccination religion
There is no such thing.
TEN COMMANDMENTS Revised Standard Version Exodus 20:1-17
1. And God spoke all these words, saying,
2. "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out

of
Quoted message said:
the house of bondage.
3. "You shall have no other gods before me.
4. "You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of

anything
Quoted message said:
that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in

the
Quoted message said:
water under the earth;
5. you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God

am a
Quoted message said:
jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth
generation of those who hate me,
6. but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep

my
Quoted message said:
commandments.
7. "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain; for the LORD

will
Quoted message said:
not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.
8. "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work;
10. but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God; in it you

shall not
Quoted message said:
do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your manservant, or your maidservant, or your
cattle, or the sojourner who is within your gates;
11. for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that

is in
Quoted message said:
them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath

day
Quoted message said:
and hallowed it.
12. "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the

land
Quoted message said:
which the LORD your God gives you.
13. "You shall not kill.
14. "You shall not commit adultery.
15. "You shall not steal.
16. "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
17. "You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his
manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his

ass,
Quoted message said:
or anything that is your neighbor's."

I count 15. Did you find the extra table that Moses broke by mistake?
--
"The emperor is naked!"
"No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"
to email me
Please remove "all your clothes"
Doug

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Peter Bowditch
Archived post

29 February 2004, 14:27 UTC #9

(hotmoon) said:
Peter,
Although I am generally not real crazy about vaccinations, and although my own son was hurt by one
(not disabled, just hurt), I appreciate your desire that people not be doctrinaire and/or fanatical
about this (or any other matter). I will be getting flu shot when they are available and necessary.
However, be that as it may, this, your quote of the number of deaths from measles is complete bunk:
You're right. Deaths are only an average of 2041 per day. I had it right on my measles death
counter page at ratbags.commeaslesdeaths.htm but another number got
into my head somehow.
who.inten
Disease burden. Measles, in spite of available vaccination, remains a heavy public health burden
worldwide especially in developing countries with 30-40 million cases, 26 million DALYs (WHO, 2002 )
and 745 000 deaths (WHO, 2002 ) for the year 2001. This represents 50-60% of the estimated million
deaths attributable to vaccine-preventable diseases of childhood. Measles may be ultimately
responsible for more child deaths than any other single agent because of complications from
pneumonia, diarrhoea and malnutrition. Measles is also the major cause of preventable blindness in
the world, affecting the same disadvantaged populations.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work,
for in six days 16,800 children will die of measles alone and on the seventh 2,800 will die
while you are resting
Another point: It would be typical of hard scientists/left brain types to fail to see the suble and
negative changes that can take place in a child after they have had a vaccination. Of course, in
some case, such changes may be acceptable if worse harm can be avoided.
--
Peter Bowditch
The Millenium Project ratbags.comrsoles
The Green Light ratbags.comgreenlight
and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 ratbags.comloon
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

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Doug
Archived post

29 February 2004, 14:27 UTC #10

"Carole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
As part of a project on the anti-vaccination religion, I have uncovered some ancient manuscripts
containing the Anti-vax 10 Commandments.
Who would trust a medical monopoly which systematically suppresses cures because they can't be
patented and make big money for the pharmaceutical business?
Would you trust a medical monopoly that ignored 'cures' that were never shown to work.
Quoted message said:

They say vaccinations are part of a responsible health regime, but they say a lot of things like
the war in Iraq was all about WMD.
Two different 'theys'.
Quoted message said:
Why are cures for so many chronic diseases always just around the corner?
Cause once the cure is available the disease is no longer chronic, so they have to move onto new
chronic diseases.
Quoted message said:

Did you know that cures for most diseases have already been discovered but have to be kept quiet
out of fear of reprisals?
Did you know you spew a lot of [censored]?
Quoted message said:

Did you know that The American Medical Association was chartered by the English crown and is
therefore a "foreign agent".
Forein to who? I thought you were an Aussie and therefore still subject to the English crown? Or
were you one of those not too brights that were complaining when Jonnie Howard took away your guns
that you had a 'constitutional right'.
Quoted message said:

Why trust conventional medicine?
Why trust loonies like Carole?
Quoted message said:

Carole austarmetro.com.auhealth.htm

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Peter Bowditch
Archived post

29 February 2004, 14:27 UTC #11

(hotmoon) said:
Peter,
Although I am generally not real crazy about vaccinations, and although my own son was hurt by one
(not disabled, just hurt), I appreciate your desire that people not be doctrinaire and/or fanatical
about this (or any other matter). I will be getting flu shot when they are available and necessary.
However, be that as it may, this, your quote of the number of deaths from measles is complete bunk:
You're right. Deaths are only an average of 2041 per day. I had it right on my measles death
counter page at ratbags.commeaslesdeaths.htm but another number got
into my head somehow.
who.inten
Disease burden. Measles, in spite of available vaccination, remains a heavy public health burden
worldwide especially in developing countries with 30-40 million cases, 26 million DALYs (WHO, 2002 )
and 745 000 deaths (WHO, 2002 ) for the year 2001. This represents 50-60% of the estimated million
deaths attributable to vaccine-preventable diseases of childhood. Measles may be ultimately
responsible for more child deaths than any other single agent because of complications from
pneumonia, diarrhoea and malnutrition. Measles is also the major cause of preventable blindness in
the world, affecting the same disadvantaged populations.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work,
for in six days 16,800 children will die of measles alone and on the seventh 2,800 will die
while you are resting
Another point: It would be typical of hard scientists/left brain types to fail to see the suble and
negative changes that can take place in a child after they have had a vaccination. Of course, in
some case, such changes may be acceptable if worse harm can be avoided.
--
Peter Bowditch
The Millenium Project ratbags.comrsoles
The Green Light ratbags.comgreenlight
and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 ratbags.comloon
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

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Tsu Dho Nimh
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29 February 2004, 15:31 UTC #12

(Carole) said:
Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
As part of a project on the anti-vaccination religion, I have uncovered some ancient manuscripts
containing the Anti-vax 10 Commandments.
Quoted message said:
Who would trust a medical monopoly which systematically suppresses cures because they can't be
patented and make big money for the pharmaceutical business?
You mean the medical monopoly that not only dicovered, but PUBLICIZED that low doses of non-
patentable aspirin decrease the risk of heart attachs, and that diets high in fresh vegetables
reduce the risk of colon cancer? The one that encourages mothers to breast fee dbecause it's better
for the babies?
Or is there one I don't know about?
Quoted message said:
They say vaccinations are part of a responsible health regime, but they say a lot of things like
the war in Iraq was all about WMD.
Don't confude medicine with Republicans, please.
Quoted message said:
Why are cures for so many chronic diseases always just around the corner?
Many of them are "lifestyle" diseases, and the cure is in your hands. The cure for type II diabetes
is to not get obese. The cure for COPD is to never get it by never smoking.
Quoted message said:
Did you know that cures for most diseases have already been discovered but have to be kept quiet
out of fear of reprisals?
Oh really? And which diseases are those, and how come you are talking about it? No fear of
reprisals?
Quoted message said:
Did you know that The American Medical Association was chartered by the English crown and is
therefore a "foreign agent".
Any non-English association doing anything in England is classed as a "foreign agent" ...
Quoted message said:
Why trust conventional medicine?
Because it publishes its results, and tests its theories.
Tsu Dho Nimh
--
When businesses invoke the "protection of consumers," it's a lot like politicians invoking morality
and children - grab your wallet and/or your kid and run for your life.

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Tsu Dho Nimh
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29 February 2004, 16:11 UTC #13

(hotmoon) said:
However, be that as it may, this, your quote of the number of deaths from measles is complete bunk:
Quoted message said:
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work,
for in six days 16,800 children will die of measles alone and on the seventh 2,800 will die
while you are resting
Third World countries lose thousands of children to measles and the associated pneumonias, because
of no antiboitics for the pneumonias and no vaccine.
Tsu Dho Nimh
--
When businesses invoke the "protection of consumers," it's a lot like politicians invoking morality
and children - grab your wallet and/or your kid and run for your life.

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David Wright
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29 February 2004, 19:52 UTC #14

In article <[email hidden]>,
hotmoon said:
Peter,
Although I am generally not real crazy about vaccinations, and although my own son was hurt by one
(not disabled, just hurt),
Could you be more specific? "Hurt" means what in this case? Was there permanent injury involved?
(You may have answered this question before, but I'm not going to try to dig through your entire set
of Usenet postings to try to find the answer.)
Quoted message said:
However, be that as it may, this, your quote of the number of deaths from measles is complete bunk:
Quoted message said:
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work,
for in six days 16,800 children will die of measles alone and on the seventh 2,800 will die
while you are resting
He's not talking about the US, he's talking about the entire world. Measles can be fatal in 10% of
the cases in children in 3rd world countries, mostly due to secondary infections and a lack of
antibiotics.
Quoted message said:
Another point: It would be typical of hard scientists/left brain types to fail to see the suble and
negative changes that can take place in a child after they have had a vaccination. Of course, in
some case, such changes may be acceptable if worse harm can be avoided.
Well, that *is* the general goal. But I don't think there's any reason to claim that "left-brain"
types can't see subtle changes. Why would that be true?
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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Mark Probert-Fe
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29 February 2004, 20:32 UTC #15

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Subject: Anti-vax 10 Commandments From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden] Date: 2/28/2004
11:21 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]>
As part of a project on the anti-vaccination religion
There is no such thing.
Of course there is. Peter posted them. The use of the format of "10 Commandments" is used for
rhetorical emphais.
Quoted message said:
TEN COMMANDMENTS Revised Standard Version Exodus 20:1-17
1. And God spoke all these words, saying,
2. "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out

of
Quoted message said:
the house of bondage.
Yes, Jewish folks.
Quoted message said:
3. "You shall have no other gods before me.
So, why do you pray to Jesus?
Quoted message said:
4. "You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of

anything
Quoted message said:
that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in

the
Quoted message said:
water under the earth;
So, why to you have a cross with Jesus on it?
Quoted message said:
5. you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God

am a
Quoted message said:
jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth
generation of those who hate me,
Hey, that is what Jan does!
Quoted message said:
6. but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep

my
Quoted message said:
commandments.
IOW, G-d is selective!
Quoted message said:
7. "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain; for the LORD

will
Quoted message said:
not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.
What happened to unconditional foregiveness?
Quoted message said:
8. "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Jan posts on Sunday.
Quoted message said:
9. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work;
But Jan still posts on Sunday.
Quoted message said:
10. but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God; in it you

shall not
Quoted message said:
do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your manservant, or your maidservant, or your
cattle, or the sojourner who is within your gates;
Jan promotes slavery
Quoted message said:
11. for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that

is in
Quoted message said:
them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath

day
Quoted message said:
and hallowed it.
12. "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the

land
Quoted message said:
which the LORD your God gives you.
13. "You shall not kill.
Jan fis anti-vac and promotes those who do not want children vaccinated. Thus, she wants
dead children.
Quoted message said:
14. "You shall not commit adultery.
Jan is not an adult.
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15. "You shall not steal.
OOPS. Jan quotesd lots of things without attribution. That is intellectual stealing.
Quoted message said:
16. "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
She is OCD about this one.
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17. "You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his
manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his

ass,
Quoted message said:
or anything that is your neighbor's."
[Note to Debbee...your anal fixation is not liked by G-d.]
Must be an Alternativfe 10 Commandments since there were 17.

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David Wright
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29 February 2004, 22:51 UTC #16

In article <[email hidden]>,
Carole said:
Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:
As part of a project on the anti-vaccination religion, I have uncovered some ancient manuscripts
containing the Anti-vax 10 Commandments.

Who would trust a medical monopoly which systematically suppresses cures because they can't be
patented and make big money for the pharmaceutical business?
Of course, you're just assuming that this happens, based on stuff you've read about Awful Medical
Conspiracies.
Not everyone believes in that stuff. Me, for instance.
Quoted message said:
They say vaccinations are part of a responsible health regime, but they say a lot of things like
the war in Iraq was all about WMD.
The people who say vaccinations are good are not the same people who claimed Iraq had WMDs.
Quoted message said:
Why are cures for so many chronic diseases always just around the corner?
Because once we have one, it stops becoming a chronic disease, and we start worrying about
something else.
Quoted message said:
Did you know that cures for most diseases have already been discovered but have to be kept quiet
out of fear of reprisals?
No, I didn't know that. You don't know it either, you just think you
do.
Quoted message said:
Why trust conventional medicine?
Because it gets results and tests those results, something "alternative" remedies are loath to do,
at least in most cases.
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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Hotmoon
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1 March 2004, 05:32 UTC #17

Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<
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You're right. Deaths are only an average of 2041 per day.
Gee, that would mean that approximately 3 children die each day in my town from measles. What a
frigging lie!!!!!!!! Or were you counting the whole world, much of which suffers from malnutrition.

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Hotmoon
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1 March 2004, 05:32 UTC #18

[email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message news
Quoted message said:
But I don't think there's any reason to claim that "left-brain" types can't see subtle changes.
Why would that be true?
Left-brainers tend to be externally oriented. Human, spiritual, and emotional matters do not come
naturally to them.

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Peter Bowditch
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1 March 2004, 06:32 UTC #19

(hotmoon) said:
Peter Bowditch <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<
Quoted message said:
You're right. Deaths are only an average of 2041 per day.
Gee, that would mean that approximately 3 children die each day in my town from measles. What a
frigging lie!!!!!!!! Or were you counting the whole world, much of which suffers from malnutrition.
Next time, keep reading. I am pleased th see that you don't think that children in other
countries matter.
Here is what I said:
You're right. Deaths are only an average of 2041 per day. I had it right on my measles death
counter page at ratbags.commeaslesdeaths.htm but another number got
into my head somehow.
who.inten
Disease burden. Measles, in spite of available vaccination, remains a heavy public health burden
worldwide especially in developing countries with 30-40 million cases, 26 million DALYs (WHO, 2002 )
and 745 000 deaths (WHO, 2002 ) for the year 2001. This represents 50-60% of the estimated million
deaths attributable to vaccine-preventable diseases of childhood. Measles may be ultimately
responsible for more child deaths than any other single agent because of complications from
pneumonia, diarrhoea and malnutrition. Measles is also the major cause of preventable blindness in
the world, affecting the same disadvantaged populations.
--
Peter Bowditch
The Millenium Project ratbags.comrsoles
The Green Light ratbags.comgreenlight
and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 ratbags.comloon
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

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Tsu Dho Nimh
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1 March 2004, 14:32 UTC #20

(hotmoon) said:
[email hidden] (David Wright) wrote in message news
Quoted message said:
But I don't think there's any reason to claim that "left-brain" types can't see subtle changes.
Why would that be true?
Left-brainers tend to be externally oriented. Human, spiritual, and emotional matters do not come
naturally to them.
You never answered his question about what you meant by "hurt".
Tsu Dho Nimh
--
When businesses invoke the "protection of consumers," it's a lot like politicians invoking morality
and children - grab your wallet and/or your kid and run for your life.

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