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Anyone feel like "junking" their diet?

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  1. Check this.

    http://tinyurl.com/99jmq

    It just goes to support the reality that the only thing that counts is
    calories.

    Regards

    David

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  2. J. David Anderson <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote:
    :> Check this.
    :>
    :> http://tinyurl.com/99jmq
    :>
    :> It just goes to support the reality that the only thing that counts
    :> is calories.

    He obviously doesn't have any metabolic issues to contend with.

  3. Roger Zoul wrote:
    || J. David Anderson <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote:
    |||| Check this.
    ||||
    |||| http://tinyurl.com/99jmq
    ||||
    |||| It just goes to support the reality that the only thing that counts
    |||| is calories.
    ||
    || He obviously doesn't have any metabolic issues to contend with.

    My first thought exactly.

    Personally I think that his idea of losing weight by eating junk foods and
    stopping when you're full is the stupidest thing I've heard since Chung's
    2PD diet.

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  4. "Marengo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:Tdalf.36334$4l5.3016@dukeread05...

    Quoted message said:

    Personally I think that his idea of losing weight by eating junk foods and
    stopping when you're full is the stupidest thing I've heard since Chung's
    2PD diet.

    Well, this concept has been around, on and off, for decades now. It
    apparently works for some people, but it did NOT work for me, nor for many
    others. Probably because of the metabolic issues some of us have, mentioned
    by Roger.

    Personally, if I had a 1-lb bag of M&Ms, it would be gone. Same with that
    bag of chips. When my insulin was raging, the metabolic drive was just too
    strong and moderation was just not happening.

    HG

  5. "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Check this.

    http://tinyurl.com/99jmq

    It just goes to support the reality that the only thing that counts is
    calories.

    Regards

    David

    That will work for maintenance. It will not work for losing weight, as most
    people's bodies will wants to stay the same weight. I also wonder about how
    he's doing nutritionally.

    You can consume lots of Oreo's and stuff, by intuition, despite the fact
    that they're filled with trans fat, which will get you into trouble.

  6. J. David Anderson said:

    Check this.

    http://tinyurl.com/99jmq

    It just goes to support the reality that the only thing that counts is
    calories.

    Regards

    David

    If your intuition tells you to avoid chips, pop, pasta, white bread,
    and sugar, then his "no diet diet" will work. If your intutition tells
    you to watch calories, restrict fat and eat a lot of "low calorie"
    refined carb [censored], then the "intuitive no diet diet" will fail and you
    will get fatter.

    The concept of not dieting to regain control of your weight is not new.
    Here is how it works. People get concerned that they are gaining weight
    so they dutifully do as they are told, eat less fatty foods and more
    carbs. Fat is 9 calories per gram and carbs are 4 calories per gram.
    Makes sense. Cut the calories by eating fewer high fat foods and more
    low-fat foods. Except they end up putting more weight on. So they
    redouble their efforts and diet more by restricting more high-calorie
    fat and eating more low-calorie carbs. And they get fatter. Eventually
    they tire of failing and they stop dieting. They revert back to eating
    more normal foods like meat with fat and regular carbs, a more
    "intuitive" "no diet" "diet", and lo and behold they start to lose
    weight on the "no diet diet".

    In other words, a random diet is more likely to be conducive to losing
    weight than the low-fat low-calorie high-carb diet they tried to use to
    lose weight. Which males sense when you understand that a low fat diet
    has been shown to fail in 95% of cases. If it was a valid concept, it
    would invariably work in 95% or more of cases. The fact that it fails
    in the statistically significant 95% of cases means that it does not
    work, period. Which means that virtually any diet that does not
    restrict fat will work better. Even an "intuitive" high fat "no diet"
    "diet" will work better than a diet that fails 95% of the time.

    Eat real food. Real food just happens to be low carb and chock full of
    real nutrition. And even with more fat in the diet, you will lose
    weight and be healthier. How much more intuitive can it get than that?

    TC

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Hannah Gruen said:

    "Marengo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:Tdalf.36334$4l5.3016@dukeread05...

    Quoted message said:

    Personally I think that his idea of losing weight by eating junk foods and
    stopping when you're full is the stupidest thing I've heard since Chung's
    2PD diet.

    Well, this concept has been around, on and off, for decades now. It
    apparently works for some people, but it did NOT work for me, nor for many
    others. Probably because of the metabolic issues some of us have, mentioned
    by Roger.

    Personally, if I had a 1-lb bag of M&Ms, it would be gone. Same with that
    bag of chips. When my insulin was raging, the metabolic drive was just too
    strong and moderation was just not happening.

    My ex-husband used to insist that, if I only ate when I was hungry,
    instead of at mealtime, I would lose weight. He never understood that I
    was *waiting* for mealtime rather than eating before I was hungry.
    Different metabolism, and all that.

    --
    AF

  8. Obviously.

    --
    Cheri

    Roger Zoul wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    J. David Anderson <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote:
    :> Check this.
    :>
    :> http://tinyurl.com/99jmq
    :>
    :> It just goes to support the reality that the only thing that counts
    :> is calories.

    He obviously doesn't have any metabolic issues to contend with.

  9. "Alice Faber" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My ex-husband used to insist that, if I only ate when I was hungry,
    instead of at mealtime, I would lose weight. He never understood that I
    was *waiting* for mealtime rather than eating before I was hungry.
    Different metabolism, and all that.

    Yep, I remember watching the clock, hungry and waiting for the next
    mealtime.

    HG

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