Appreciable benefit from doing this?

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Appkiller said:

I have a fair number of spacers under the stem on one of my
road bikes
- about 1.6" or so. The stem is one of them there flippy
types with about a 80 degree angle on it (110 degree
flipped, when all the cipherin' is said and done).

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Quoted message said:

The steerer is 1" aluminium. Will there be benefit to
flipping the stem and cutting down the steerer besides the
loss of about 25 gms of weight?

If the bars end up in the right place, that's all that
matters.

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Quoted message said:

I have a fair number of spacers under the stem on one of
my road bikes
- about 1.6" or so. The stem is one of them there flippy
types with about a 80 degree angle on it (110 degree
flipped, when all the cipherin' is said and done).

The steerer is 1" aluminium. Will there be benefit to
flipping the stem and cutting down the steerer besides the
loss of about 25 gms of weight?

It will change the forward reach slightly which could be
either good or bad, depending on how the fit is now. Or the
change may not enough to worry about either way.

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On 21 Apr 2004 08:00:07 -0700, [email hidden] (Appkiller) may

have said:

I have a fair number of spacers under the stem on one of my
road bikes
- about 1.6" or so. The stem is one of them there flippy
types with about a 80 degree angle on it (110 degree
flipped, when all the cipherin' is said and done).

The steerer is 1" aluminium. Will there be benefit to
flipping the stem and cutting down the steerer besides the
loss of about 25 gms of weight?

It has been supposed that some stems are better able to bear
a load in one direction than the other, but in my opinion,
this is only likely to be a concern with a stem that's not
properly designed and/or constructed to begin with. Other
than that, by shortening the steerer, you might reduce steer
tube flex slightly (a change whose benefit is probably
infinitesimal if any), but the single biggest effect will be
that you'll reduce the number of options you have available
for bar position in the future. 25 grams is a small thing to
lose, but that potential future utility might not be. I'd
leave it as-is, or flip the stem and leave the spacers *on
top* if you're curious about the potential benefits of
reduced steerer flex.

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David Kerber' ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

It will change the forward reach slightly which could be
either good or bad, depending on how the fit is now.

If the height is unaltered, so is the reach. Draw yourself
am isosceles triangle with the steerer as the base.

James Thomson

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David Kerber' ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

It will change the forward reach slightly which could be
either good or bad, depending on how the fit is now.

If the height is unaltered, so is the reach. Draw yourself
am isosceles triangle with the steerer as the base.

You're right; my bad!

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Quoted message said:

I have a fair number of spacers under the stem on one of
my road bikes
- about 1.6" or so. The stem is one of them there flippy
types with about a 80 degree angle on it (110 degree
flipped, when all the cipherin' is said and done).

The steerer is 1" aluminium. Will there be benefit to
flipping the stem and cutting down the steerer besides the
loss of about 25 gms of weight?

App

Yeah, your bike will be about and ounce lighter. Good for
bragging rights and avoiding the shame of having all those
silly spacers on your steerer. Beyond that, no difference,
nada, nothing.

If you want to save another ounce or two, go get a haircut.

Jeff

On 21 Apr 2004 08:00:07 -0700, [email hidden] (Appkiller)

Quoted message said:

I have a fair number of spacers under the stem on one of my
road bikes
- about 1.6" or so. The stem is one of them there flippy
types with about a 80 degree angle on it (110 degree
flipped, when all the cipherin' is said and done).

The steerer is 1" aluminium. Will there be benefit to
flipping the stem and cutting down the steerer besides the
loss of about 25 gms of weight?

It will, IMO, look nicer; and in an (unlikely) endo, the
risk to your genitalia is reduced. Also, it inflames
retrogrouches who think a '7'-shaped quill stem is the only
reasonable way to attach handlebars...that's enough reason
in and of itself.

Personally, I'd flip the stem but leave the steer tube
uncut; that ought to REALLY [censored] those retrogrouches.
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James Thomson said:

David Kerber' ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

It will change the forward reach slightly which could be
either good or bad, depending on how the fit is now.

If the height is unaltered, so is the reach. Draw yourself
am isosceles triangle with the steerer as the base.

Or be lazy...

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On 21 Apr 2004 08:00:07 -0700, [email hidden]

(Appkiller) said:

I have a fair number of spacers under the stem on one of
my road bikes
- about 1.6" or so. The stem is one of them there flippy
types with about a 80 degree angle on it (110 degree
flipped, when all the cipherin' is said and done).

The steerer is 1" aluminium. Will there be benefit to
flipping the stem and cutting down the steerer besides
the loss of about 25 gms of weight?

It will, IMO, look nicer; and in an (unlikely) endo, the
risk to your genitalia is reduced. Also, it inflames
retrogrouches who think a '7'-shaped quill stem is the
only reasonable way to attach handlebars...that's enough
reason in and of itself.

Personally, I'd flip the stem but leave the steer tube
uncut; that ought to REALLY [censored] those retrogrouches.

Heck I've got spacers on top of my stem!

But then I'm a bit weird since I like to adjust the stem
height based on how early in the season it is /// how far I
intend to ride /// how flexable I feel ///whether I'm riding
flats or hills...

Doing that bugs everyone!

But whats best is the number of people try to explain why
its wrong...

pete-<< there flippy types with about a 80 degree angle
on it (110 degree flipped, when all the cipherin' is said
and done).

The steerer is 1" aluminium. Will there be benefit to
flipping the stem and cutting down the steerer besides the
loss of about 25 gms of weight? >><BR><BR>

If the hbars are in the same place...nope...but those 25
grams ...pretty heavy!!!

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But then I'm a bit weird since I like to adjust the stem
height based on how early in the season it is /// how far I
intend to ride /// how flexable I feel ///whether I'm
riding flats or hills...

Same here. And when faced with riding 10-20 miles into a
stiff breeze to get home, it's nice to flip the stem over
and drop the bars about 3".

I also like risers - because you can rotate them
forwards/backwards as the mood strikes.

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On 22 Apr 2004 05:34:56 -0700, [email hidden] (ajames54)

Quoted message said:

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Quoted message said:

Personally, I'd flip the stem but leave the steer tube
uncut; that ought to REALLY [censored] those retrogrouches.

But then I'm a bit weird since I like to adjust the stem
height based on how early in the season it is /// how far I
intend to ride /// how flexable I feel ///whether I'm
riding flats or hills...

I've had that same idea, but out of laziness, I just set it
at a reasonable position and leave it.

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Doing that bugs everyone! But whats best is the number of
people try to explain why its wrong...

*giggle*
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Rick Onanian