are these good hubs?

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for the price these seem like a good deal
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=3684231122
but it makes me wonder since there were so few bidders.

There are a two reasons I would not buy them. First, they use special
spokes. Second, they are CNC machined, forged is much better. Shimano
makes some very nice hubs at very reasonable prices, as does Campagnolo.
Why mess with unknown over-priced hubs?
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Alex

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There are a two reasons I would not buy them. First, they use special
spokes. Second, they are CNC machined, forged is much better. Shimano
makes some very nice hubs at very reasonable prices, as does Campagnolo.
Why mess with unknown over-priced hubs?

you can't get good shimano or campy hubs for 61.00 and I found the spokes no
problem. sheldons site shows they are a bit weaker the forged but does that
really mean that they will fail?

" Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines"

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There are a two reasons I would not buy them. First, they use special
spokes. Second, they are CNC machined, forged is much better. Shimano
makes some very nice hubs at very reasonable prices, as does Campagnolo.
Why mess with unknown over-priced hubs?

you can't get good shimano or campy hubs for 61.00 and I found the spokes

no

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problem. sheldons site shows they are a bit weaker the forged but does

that

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really mean that they will fail?

Its interesting that you state you can't get *good* shimano or campy hubs
for $61.00. That may be true, but what makes you think these CNC hubs are
any better?

Alex gave 2 excellent reasons not to get these hubs. However, you appear
intent on getting them. If you think these hubs are "as strong" as forged
shimano or campy and that you will "no problem" getting spokes, then by all
means go for it!

You pay for what you get....

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Its interesting that you state you can't get *good* shimano or campy hubs
for $61.00. That may be true, but what makes you think these CNC hubs are
any better?

well I hope they are. I thought I would get outbid on them. but they do look
pretty nice. I will see when I get them.

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Alex gave 2 excellent reasons not to get these hubs. However, you appear
intent on getting them. If you think these hubs are "as strong" as forged
shimano or campy and that you will "no problem" getting spokes, then by all
means go for it!

I got them so what choice do I have but to sell them again?
yes I found spokes no problem if I can I bet my mechanic can too. hell anymore
there are a lot of oddball spokes out there. and I asked is the strength issue
really a issue? I mean is the hub gonna blow apart? they won't be laced
radial-spoked. sometimes I like to get away from the mainstream and try other
brands. I try to get the best I can afford and not shop by brand name.

" Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines"

Those hubs have a strange spoke arrangement.

36 in the front and 32 in the rear.

Lewis.

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Steve Knight <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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for the price these seem like a good deal
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=3684231122
but it makes me wonder since there were so few bidders.

" Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines"

(Lewis Campbell) said:

Those hubs have a strange spoke arrangement.

36 in the front and 32 in the rear.

Yes I noticed that. but I had only planned on using the rear and selling the
front hub. I don't think they were a pair since the model numbers are so
different.

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Alex gave 2 excellent reasons not to get these hubs. However, you appear
intent on getting them. If you think these hubs are "as strong" as forged
shimano or campy and that you will "no problem" getting spokes, then by all
means go for it!

I got them so what choice do I have but to sell them again?
yes I found spokes no problem if I can I bet my mechanic can too. hell anymore
there are a lot of oddball spokes out there. and I asked is the strength issue
really a issue? I mean is the hub gonna blow apart? they won't be laced
radial-spoked. sometimes I like to get away from the mainstream and try other
brands. I try to get the best I can afford and not shop by brand name.

You actually do have another choice, since you got them, build them up
and ride!

As long as you or a good wheelbuilder builts them well, using a good
rim, spokes (I believe you can get db straight pull spokes) and
nipples, you should be fine. If you're really concern about
durability/reliability, save your money and have a 2nd wheel built up
with a forged shimano or campy hub that will use standard db spokes!

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You actually do have another choice, since you got them, build them up
and ride!

that's what I planned on doing.

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As long as you or a good wheelbuilder builts them well, using a good
rim, spokes (I believe you can get db straight pull spokes) and
nipples, you should be fine. If you're really concern about
durability/reliability, save your money and have a 2nd wheel built up
with a forged shimano or campy hub that will use standard db spokes!

I have a good wheel builder so I am not too worried.
I think they will work fine. hell you don't go to the trouble to setting up
CNC to make junk it's way to expensive.
the fellow I got them from emailed me this.

I think I exhausted all avenues of inquiry re. the hubs. Sella Italia did not
answer my email and my regular source for bike queries (Sheldon Brown at Harris
Cyclery............. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/index.html ) was
unable to help. I posted several queries on cycling forums and only got one
response from a guy in the UK who had seen the same hubs in a bike shop a few
months ago but new nothing more about them. I suspect they were made in limited
numbers under contract for Sella Italia by a European machine shop. This would
make them all the more valuable as collectors items............ but they look to
good not to use!

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I suspect they were made in limited numbers under contract for >Sella

Italia by a European machine shop. This would make them all >the more
valuable as collectors items............ but they look to

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good not to use!

Your choice to use these hubs is the correct one. Unless you can some how
figure out how to make these hubs attractive to those "Japanese collectors",
I'd doubt these hubs would be "more valuable" as collectors items. Use them
and enjoy!

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I have a good wheel builder so I am not too worried.
I think they will work fine. hell you don't go to the trouble to setting up
CNC to make junk it's way to expensive.

If that was only true. There is a lot of CNC junk out there.
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Alex

here is the email from selle looks like I made out pretty well.

These are the real thing not some China knock off, the owners son of Selle
Italia several years ago decide that they should expand the SI product line into
wheels as with anything Selle Italia does they went first class and had
everything made from scratch to their specifications by Alpina Raggi a fantastic
Italian spoke and nipple company, the hubs are C and Cd out of a solid block of
a alloy, bearings used are completely sealed for low maintenance and encompass
several seals while the front axle is alloy the rear is Titanium. As for spokes
you will need to use a straight pull spoke when lacing to get the spoke length
it will depend on the ERD of the rim the dealer you purchase the spokes from
should be able to but into a computer program available to them from
distributors the hub diameter and rim ERD which will compute the spoke length.

Suggested retail on a set of these hubs when new and being promoted was (sit
down) over $600.00 so at $61.00 you got a great deal, just remember that they
haven’t been made for about 6 years so no parts are available but with proper
care should give you many many miles of trouble free riding enjoyment.

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