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  1. This is the only sensible post I've seen in this whole thread. Give it a rest, people. In a little over a week, nearly 200 brave and committed men are going to attempt something that none of us here could even dream of doing. Might I respectfully suggest a brief moratorium on old battles that will never be won until Le Grand Boucle has unfolded?

    jhuskey said:

    I would like to point out that my weight varies over time also. I was around 6 lbs 8 ounces with no training and balooned up over time with training.
    I have worn pink,even womens attire in pink and am not ashamed . I point out it wasn't mine and I mostly wore it on my head and I did return it to the owner in the morning, granted we could find it and it was still wearable. Sometimes not!
    At that given moment I could not pronounce magenta and really didn't give a rats a** if I could. Is magenta a female body part? Never mind!
    My point is I could wear a pink suit with electronic rotating pasties on it and could not stay with Jan,Basso or Lance on my best day.
    Except in a chase car.
    I bet I can drink with either of them and hold my own.
    One must put emphasis on ones talents.
    Viva Le Tour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! l LET THE BIG DOGS ROLL!

  2. wolfix said:

    Lance's response was just posted on Velonews. The interesting thing was that [censored] Pound's name came up again. He needs to be looked at by the WADA officials and he needs to have his reputation tried in the court of public opinion. As he has done to LA.

    Beyond the issue of "if LA doped" is the issue of [censored] Pound and his connection to the newspaper. If [censored] Pound's tactics are not looked at, how do we apply any truth to what WADA does and say? If [censored] Pound did release this information to the newspaper, he needs to answer to a court of law. He [WADA]is supposed to be "the guardian at the gate" of drug enforcement. The professionalism of WADA has been seriously compromised by the "alleged" actions of Pound.

    The newspaper in question is not reporting the story in the manner of professionalism, but rather in the intent of "sensationalism." But that is what sells newspapers.
    The report that came out of Belgium a few weeks ago showed the public exactly what that particular French newspapers standards are. And this needs to be noted by the public.
    Is this newspaper a tabloid or a considered a serious newspaper in France? [Serious question]

    If people that love this sport think that Pound's actions are not hurting the sport consider this...... My friends that understand sports do not consider professional cyclists that race in Europe to be real athletes. They have no respect for them. {And this disrespect goes to American riders as well as others} They put professional cycling standards right there on par with the WWF. And it's not because they think American sports are the center of the universe, because they are all going nuts over the World Cup.
    Our sport has no respect outside of the world we as fans live in.

    If you do not think this is bad for cycling, look at what has happened to track & Field. No one cares for it anymore in this country. We got tired of hearing all the doping stories. It is now a tabloid sport.

    I am not defending the dopers. We need WADA. But we need WADA to follow their mission statement. [censored] Pound has rose above that mission statement to further his personel agenda.

    Soon we will see a list of riders that will be connected to the Saiz case. There is a real good possibility that a big name or 2 in cycling are going to be connected with those Spanish apartments. Personally, I think it will be a individual that is standing on the podium in July. I seriously hope I am wrong. This sport needs to go beyond doping stories to stories of riders exploits on the bike.


    I picked the question out (serious newspaper) but here another answer, i agree with most of what you are saying but want to add that the UCI is harming the sport (they did for over 30 years and still do) as well.

  3. The IOC has responded to LA's request for an investigation of WADA, Pound, etc. The IOC has recommended that CAS be utilized to bridge the differences. This hopefully will rein in Pound's craziness. That IOC recommended a court be involved suggests that they think there's something to LA's letter.

  4. Why has this thread grown to 7 pages so fast? Why do we care so much about this rather than actual cycling.

    This is an old story that no doubt already has 20 odd pages of discussion to its name, after all these accusations have already been published in Dan Coyle's "Lance Armstrongs War" I believe.

    How about we have an LA amnesty for the course of the TdF, i.e no mention of him in any TdF thread? That would be nice.

  5. musette said:

    The IOC has responded to LA's request for an investigation of WADA, Pound, etc. The IOC has recommended that CAS be utilized to bridge the differences. This hopefully will rein in Pound's craziness. That IOC recommended a court be involved suggests that they think there's something to LA's letter.

    [font=Verdana]The IOC have also asked that CAS look into Bruyneel's open letter to cyclingnews due to it immense overacting and general Tom Cruise/[/font][font=Times New Roman] [/font][font=Verdana]Oprah Winfrey styled “I'm so in love” scientology writing. CAS is expected to comedown very hard on such a letter because it was girly and cycling is a man's sport. [/font][font=Verdana][/font]

  6. whiteboytrash said:

    [font=Verdana]The IOC have also asked that CAS look into Bruyneel's open letter to cyclingnews due to it immense overacting and general Tom Cruise/[/font][font=Times New Roman] [/font][font=Verdana]Oprah Winfrey styled “I'm so in love” scientology writing. CAS is expected to comedown very hard on such a letter because it was girly and cycling is a man's sport. [/font][font=Verdana][/font]


    I think Lance's open letter answers it all.
    He released all 280 pages of his hospital record to a formal panel of insurance arbitrators, they do this stuff all day, He won the case and got paid the 5 million plus damages.
    Now someone else misleadingly leaked partial testimony, his doctor testified on his behalf. WHat else can be done?

    the whole thing is stupid, no correction, this has now gone beyond annoying and stupid, betond wrong, what had been happening to this guy, recall he's just a guy like any of us, is evil and destructive. Lets leave it alone, as Lance has said he plans to.

  7. Eldrack said:

    Why has this thread grown to 7 pages so fast? Why do we care so much about this rather than actual cycling.

    This is an old story that no doubt already has 20 odd pages of discussion to its name, after all these accusations have already been published in Dan Coyle's "Lance Armstrongs War" I believe.

    How about we have an LA amnesty for the course of the TdF, i.e no mention of him in any TdF thread? That would be nice.

    YES! Excellent suggestion.

    How about no LA for the entire TOUR.

  8. tcklyde said:

    YES! Excellent suggestion.

    How about no LA for the entire TOUR.

    What if he wins?

  9. tcklyde said:

    YES! Excellent suggestion.

    How about no LA for the entire TOUR.

    Unless there is a possibility of making a laugh out of it. 😄

  10. Pantani is not a confirmed doper. He never was found positive for a banned substance. He was eliminated because he was inconvenient and unbendable, by the corrupt powers that control Italian sports. You may have read about recent game fixing scandals in the serie A. They also bet on cycling in Italy. There is a betting mafia that is part of something bigger still, that you cannot go against. Unlike other nations where media and politicians and corporations will support a national hero, Italy is dominated by the money elite for the preservation of money making.

    MikefrMd said:

    This all just sour grapes.

    People just always want to pull down those on top...thats just how it is.

    In Europe they just loved Virenque and Pantani and a host of other confirmed dopers But they spit on LA.

    No secret that the french press has always hated Armstrong....can't have a yank dominating their sacred race.

  11. Who oredrs this French [censored]? Why the French wants such kind of stuff a week before the race? I don't understand them...

  12. guncha said:

    Who oredrs this French [censored]? Why the French wants such kind of stuff a week before the race? I don't understand them...


    They LIVE for this stuff, the race is just a sideshow at this point.

    The same reason CNN and MSNBC exist in the US, after OJ Simpsons white SUV chase down the highway, Clinton's Monica-gate, Jon Benet Ramsey, the missing high school girl on vacation., Katrina etc, the TV networks realize that scandal and tragedy sell.

    It Sells newspapers and sends TV ratings up more than the real race itself. That is the weird world we live in. Celebrity and celebrity downfall are the news.

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