Tonight Danish television succeeded in getting Ullrich, Hamilton and Armstrong to share their opinions about the already legendary crash on Luz Ardiden. - Ullrich was calm and smiling - for him it was natural to hold his speed, as the yellow jersey crashed. He congratulated wholehearted Armstrong to a beauteful victory today. He looked good - smiling and relaxed. - Hamilton explained, that he felt it necessary to hold back the (few) riders in the front group, who didn't understand, what is a golden rule in the TdF for situations like this. - He was to tired he almost cried. - Armstrong was mild and relaxed. He didn't take the final victory for granted, but it was obvious, that he was quite confident. For him is was no question, that the front group of course would wait for the yellow jersey - or any other favourite - if they crashed. He was glad, smiling and relieved - and had a clear and bright look in his eyes.
I think this is the greatest TdF in many years. In my opinion Armstrong is one of the true great champions in the Tour history - equal to legends like Coppi and Merckx.
I realise by now, that my personal favourite Paolo Bettini is not likely to win the Tour - on the other hand: he is only 1.42.53 behind! Go Paolo Go!
I realise by now, that my personal favourite Paolo Bettini is not likely to win the Tour - on the other hand: he is only 1.42.53 behind! Go Paolo Go!
I'd take 3:1 odds that he wins a stage, though. Virenque is taken care of, Rogers is too far back..... Paolo's been resting in the mountains, and now's his time.
I realise by now, that my personal favourite Paolo Bettini is not likely to win the Tour - on the other hand: he is only 1.42.53 behind! Go Paolo Go!
I'd take 3:1 odds that he wins a stage, though. Virenque is taken care of, Rogers is too far back..... Paolo's been resting in the mountains, and now's his time.
I realise by now, that my personal favourite Paolo Bettini is not likely to win the Tour - on the other hand: he is only 1.42.53 behind! Go Paolo Go!
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I'd take 3:1 odds that he wins a stage, though. Virenque is taken care of, Rogers is too far back..... Paolo's been resting in the mountains, and now's his time.
Thomas from DK-<< I think this is the greatest TdF in many years. In my opinion Armstrong is one of the true great champions in the Tour history - equal to legends like Coppi and Merckx.
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Altho a great race and a really great rider, Lance has won something like 75 races, compared to Eddy's 535...and don't know about Fausto.
hardly equal in terms of palmares to Fausto and certainly not Eddy...
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Thomas from DK-<< I think this is the greatest TdF in many years. In my opinion Armstrong is one of the true great champions in the Tour history - equal to legends like Coppi and Merckx.
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Altho a great race and a really great rider, Lance has won something like 75 races, compared to Eddy's 535...and don't know about Fausto.
hardly equal in terms of palmares to Fausto and certainly not Eddy...
I get so tired of how such and such rider from the past is so much better than those today because the modern guys don't have the same Palmares. Face facts, its a different sport today. The Giro is an actual race and not just a warm up for "The Tour". With so much more money on the line things are more competitive. I wonder just how well Eddy, and mind you I think he was "The King of Cycling", would do if you somehow pulled him out of his 3rd tour or so and dropped him into this one. I'm sure that with modern training he would still have what it takes, but I doubt if he would win. In most sports the field has gotten deeper and it gets more and more difficult to rise above.
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Altho a great race and a really great rider, Lance has won something like
75
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races, compared to Eddy's 535...and don't know about Fausto.
hardly equal in terms of palmares to Fausto and certainly not Eddy...
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I get so tired of how such and such rider from the past is so much better than those today because the modern guys don't have the same Palmares. Face facts, its a different sport today. The Giro is an actual race and not just a warm up for "The Tour". With so much more money on the line things are more competitive. I wonder just how well Eddy, and mind you I think he was "The King of Cycling", would do if you somehow pulled him out of his 3rd tour or so and dropped him into this one. I'm sure that with modern training he would still have what it takes, but I doubt if he would win. In most sports the field has gotten deeper and it gets more and more difficult to rise above.
The only sensible comparison is asking what Eddy would be like if he was born only 30 years ago and had broken into the sport in the modern era with today's training, equipment, team organization, sponsorships and prize money.
However, it's meaningless because anyone can advance an argument about why it would be this way or that way, and no-one knows.
I get so tired of how such and such rider from the past is so much better than those today because the modern guys don't have the same Palmares. Face facts, its a different sport today. The Giro is an actual race and not just a warm up for "The Tour". With so much more money on the line things are more competitive. I wonder just how well Eddy, and mind you I think he was "The King of Cycling", would do if you somehow pulled him out of his 3rd tour or so and dropped him into this one. I'm sure that with modern training he would still have what it takes, but I doubt if he would win. In most sports the field has gotten deeper and it gets more and more difficult to rise above.
Benjo Maso made an amazing post on the french-speaking newsgroup the other day. Coppi won the stage the first time the Tour arrived at alpe d'Huez and Benjo compared his climbing time with the ones of this year. Of course Coppi was slower than Lance, Mayo and the likes, but only for a few minutes. And that was fifty years ago, with the bicycle of the time and the road pavement of the time. Not to speak of training methods and race conditions.
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Benjo Maso made an amazing post on the french-speaking newsgroup the other day. Coppi won the stage the first time the Tour arrived at alpe d'Huez and Benjo compared his climbing time with the ones of this year. Of course Coppi was slower than Lance, Mayo and the likes, but only for a few minutes. And that was fifty years ago, with the bicycle of the time and the road pavement of the time. Not to speak of training methods and race conditions.