Armstrong will collapse in Luz-Ardiden!

"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Judging by the Tourmalet climb, Armstrong's had it or rather Ullrich is just too strong.

Spot on observation.

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"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Judging by the Tourmalet climb, Armstrong's had it or rather Ullrich is just too strong.

Spot on observation.

Yup, my bad, Good job there weren't 5 more kilometers though...He lost 10 seconds in the last
kilometer. Of course that asswipe Mayo stole 4 seconds from Ulrich

Keith said:

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"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Judging by the Tourmalet climb, Armstrong's had it or rather Ullrich is just too strong.

Spot on observation.

Yup, my bad, Good job there weren't 5 more kilometers though...He lost 10 seconds in the last
kilometer. Of course that asswipe Mayo stole 4 seconds from Ulrich

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If there were 5 more K's Ullrich blows at that pace. Can you imaging 5 more K's for Cipo after his
leadout pulls off?

Keith said:

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"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Judging by the Tourmalet climb, Armstrong's had it or rather Ullrich is just too strong.

Spot on observation.

Yup, my bad, Good job there weren't 5 more kilometers though...He lost 10 seconds in the last
kilometer. Of course that asswipe Mayo stole 4 seconds from Ulrich

Yeah, and if those added 5k were at 10%, Lance would have picked up another minute on Jan.

Mayo would have been crazy to give Ullrich anything at the line in front of 20K screaming Basque
fans. What happened 10K down the mountain was ancient history at the finish. Mayo let Jan do the
work so he could save himself for the finish -- that's bike racing and not in the least bit unfair.

zeno

Keith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Judging by the Tourmalet climb, Armstrong's had it or rather Ullrich is just too strong.

You're definitely the expert.

Nice call.

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"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Judging by the Tourmalet climb, Armstrong's had it or rather Ullrich is just too strong.

Spot on observation.

Psychic friends network wanna-be's? You'll need a little more practice to get the job.

Keith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Judging by the Tourmalet climb, Armstrong's had it or rather Ullrich is just too strong.

Ullrich might have lost time due to a tactical error. Hard to say yet. need time to reivew the
video. If this is the case Armstrong could still be in trouble. On the otherhand Armstrong's team is
so strong that it will be hard for Ullrich to counter him.

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"Keith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> Judging by the Tourmalet climb, Armstrong's had it or rather Ullrich is just too strong.

Spot on observation.

Yup, my bad, Good job there weren't 5 more kilometers though...He lost 10 seconds in the last
kilometer. Of course that asswipe Mayo stole 4 seconds from Ulrich

Yeah, and if there were 50 more kilometers that solo attack would have cost Lance the tour!

[censored].

If you paid any attention you would have noticed that the reason they closed down some time in that
last kilometer was because Mayo and Zubeldia, fresh as daisies from their wheelsucking, finally came
to the front and pushed the pace to try to take both 2nd and 3rd from Ullrich. Ullrich showed his
strength and at least got 3rd.

Mack Mad said:

If you paid any attention you would have noticed that the reason they closed down some time in
that last kilometer was because Mayo and Zubeldia, fresh as daisies from their wheelsucking,
finally came to the front and pushed the

Please tell me how you become as fresh as a daisy from "wheelsucking" on a 7% gradient climb. The
only part where it is relevant at Luz-Ardiden is near the top in the last 2km where the gradient
lessens and you can use the big ring IIRC.

Ullrich was caught in "no man's land"; he had to take back time on the road but by doing so he could
not prevent Mayo from coming round and taking the bonus seconds (deals have to be done _first_). If
he'd dropped back and let Mayo set the tempo he might have taken the 8s bonus but wouldn't have
taken back 25s on the road. Which do you think was more important overall?

Stewart Fleming said:

Mack Mad said:

If you paid any attention you would have noticed that the reason they closed down some time in
that last kilometer was because Mayo and Zubeldia, fresh as daisies from their wheelsucking,
finally came to the front and pushed the

Please tell me how you become as fresh as a daisy from "wheelsucking" on a 7% gradient climb. The
only part where it is relevant at Luz-Ardiden is near the top in the last 2km where the gradient
lessens and you can use the big ring IIRC.

Those animals climb those mountains at an incredible 13-15 mph, just fast enough for drafting to
have an effect, particularly so for light riders.

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