aspirin

"Lindstroem" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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History: Male 42 years old. Medicin for elevated cholesterol and high bloodpresure. 5feet 10, 150
pounds, non smoker, run 15 miles a week. Father died when he was 48, of a heartattack. My mother
was 45 when she got new bloodwessels in her legs. Later she had had two heartattacks. Both were
smokers but no overweight.

I can see in a lot of the mails in this group that aspirin is part of the medication that the
doctor give heart patients. My family doctor in Denmark has decided to give me cholesterol medicin
because of my family history. My cholesterol is borderline. My bloodprsure was significant too
high so there he had no doubt about midication. I guess that we do not have the same tradition as
in USA about going to a specialist - cardiolog - before you are a heartpationet. The familidoctor
has not suggested it anyway. Now the point. He has never said anything about aspirin. Is it
because there are side effects? Or are there different opinions about aspirin in Europe and USA.
Should I just start eating them? Or is it neccesary to have bloodtest done? I can see in some of
the posts in this group that the aspirin realy prevent fatal heartattacks. So why has the doctor
not told me to eat the cheap little pills?

Best regards and sorry about spelling and grammar. English is not my primary language.

It often is suggested to prevent heart attacks. Here is an article from the UK that suggests it is
more cost effective than Statins in situations similiar to yours. It can cause bleeding in the
stomach, so you might want to call your
Dr.

bmj.bmjjournals.com1264Open ↗

Bill

Lindstroem said:

History: Male 42 years old. Medicin for elevated cholesterol and high bloodpresure. 5feet 10, 150
pounds, non smoker, run 15 miles a week. Father died when he was 48, of a heartattack. My mother
was 45 when she got new bloodwessels in her legs. Later she had had two heartattacks. Both were
smokers but no overweight.

I can see in a lot of the mails in this group that aspirin is part of the medication that the
doctor give heart patients. My family doctor in Denmark has decided to give me cholesterol medicin
because of my family history. My cholesterol is borderline. My bloodprsure was significant too
high so there he had no doubt about midication. I guess that we do not have the same tradition as
in USA about going to a specialist - cardiolog - before you are a heartpationet. The familidoctor
has not suggested it anyway. Now the point. He has never said anything about aspirin. Is it
because there are side effects?

No.

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Or are there different opinions about aspirin in Europe and USA.

No.

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Should I just start eating them?

Would suggest you discuss this with your doctor(s)

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Or is it neccesary to have bloodtest done?

No.

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I can see in some of the posts in this group that the aspirin realy prevent fatal heartattacks. So
why has the doctor not told me to eat the cheap little pills?

Suspect it has been an oversight.

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Best regards and sorry about spelling and grammar. English is not my primary language.

No problem. We put up with Matti Narkia here and English is his *fifth* language :-)

Your English seems to be better (Matti's English is good only when he cuts and pastes) than Matti's.

Humbly,

Andrew

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Board-Certified Cardiologist
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"Lindstroem" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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History: Male 42 years old. Medicin for elevated cholesterol and high bloodpresure. 5feet 10, 150
pounds, non smoker, run 15 miles a week. Father died when he was 48, of a heartattack. My mother
was 45 when she

got

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new bloodwessels in her legs. Later she had had two heartattacks. Both

were

Quoted message said:

smokers but no overweight.

I can see in a lot of the mails in this group that aspirin is part of the medication that the
doctor give heart patients. My family doctor in Denmark has decided to give me cholesterol
medicin because of my family history. My cholesterol is borderline. My bloodprsure was
significant too high so there he had no doubt about midication. I guess that we do not have the
same tradition as in USA about going to a specialist - cardiolog - before you are a
heartpationet. The familidoctor has not suggested it anyway. Now the point. He has never said
anything about aspirin. Is it because

there

Quoted message said:

are side effects? Or are there different opinions about aspirin in Europe and USA. Should I just
start eating them? Or is it neccesary to have bloodtest

done?

Quoted message said:

I can see in some of the posts in this group that the aspirin realy

prevent

Quoted message said:

fatal heartattacks. So why has the doctor not told me to eat the cheap little pills?

Best regards and sorry about spelling and grammar. English is not my

primary

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language.

This British site might be of interest to you. bpassoc.org.ukindex.htmOpen ↗ Derek.

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:33:58 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
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No problem. We put up with Matti Narkia here and English is his *fifth* language :-)

Your English seems to be better (Matti's English is good only when he cuts and pastes) than
Matti's.

Explanation for those trying to follow along at home: Matti caught Chung in an error once and had
the temerity to point it out. Chung somehow thinks it is an insult to point out that Matti can speak
five languages. Go figgure.

Good work for one afternoon, Chung. You have pretty much gotten around to insulting everyone on you
"enemies" list at least once. What's that I hear? Could an actual patient have shown up in your
waiting room?

No, it was just the cleaning lady readjusting the dust covers on the furniture.

Well, don't feel bad. The Tooth Fairy is scheduled to come in for his annual checkup next week. I
know that he and the Easter Bunny are the 50% of the 75% of your patients who have succeeded on the
2PD... who could the other be? Oh... Mu! Of course. That explains the 75%.

--
Steve

Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

Steve said:

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Your English seems to be better (Matti's English is good only when he cuts and pastes) than
Matti's.

Explanation for those trying to follow along at home: Matti caught Chung in an error once and had
the temerity to point it out. Chung somehow thinks it is an insult to point out that Matti can
speak five languages. Go figgure.

Easy explanation. Matti is actually quite talented, and Chung has difficulty trying to find anything
meaningful to insult Matti. The next best thing is to make up something and keep repeating it over
and over. Just about everyone is quite bored with it except Chung. <g> He still sees it as brilliant
wit. <ggg> He's funny. Matt

I only know that 1/2 an aspirin a day can significantly reduce blood
pressure. It thins the blood. It does so by preventing platelet coagulation.
But the main problem with aspirin is that it shouldn't be taken after
surgery as it can promote bleeding due to thin blood.
If you decide to take aspirin, desolve it under the tongue or it will not be
effective.
theo
"Lindstroem" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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History: Male 42 years old. Medicin for elevated cholesterol and high bloodpresure. 5feet 10, 150
pounds, non smoker, run 15 miles a week. Father died when he was 48, of a heartattack. My mother
was 45 when she

got

Quoted message said:

new bloodwessels in her legs. Later she had had two heartattacks. Both

were

Quoted message said:

smokers but no overweight.

I can see in a lot of the mails in this group that aspirin is part of the medication that the
doctor give heart patients. My family doctor in Denmark has decided to give me cholesterol
medicin because of my family history. My cholesterol is borderline. My bloodprsure was
significant too high so there he had no doubt about midication. I guess that we do not have the
same tradition as in USA about going to a specialist - cardiolog - before you are a
heartpationet. The familidoctor has not suggested it anyway. Now the point. He has never said
anything about aspirin. Is it because

there

Quoted message said:

are side effects? Or are there different opinions about aspirin in Europe and USA. Should I just
start eating them? Or is it neccesary to have bloodtest

done?

Quoted message said:

I can see in some of the posts in this group that the aspirin realy

prevent

Quoted message said:

fatal heartattacks. So why has the doctor not told me to eat the cheap little pills?

Best regards and sorry about spelling and grammar. English is not my

primary

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language.

Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:40:48 +1000 in article
<[email hidden]> "Theo Blote"

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I only know that 1/2 an aspirin a day can significantly reduce blood pressure. It thins the blood.
It does so by preventing platelet coagulation. But the main problem with aspirin is that it
shouldn't be taken after surgery as it can promote bleeding due to thin blood.

Actually, it shouldn't be taken _before_ surgery. Surgeons usually advise patients to stop aspirin
at least five days before surgery. But I'm not sure whether this applies to all heart operations,
I've read somewhere that aspirin use is allowed and advised in some heart operations.

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If you decide to take aspirin, desolve it under the tongue or it will not be effective.

I don't think so. If you crush or dissolve aspirin in your mouth, it probably works quicker, but
even if you swallow it, it still works, although perhaps slower. In prevention this doesn't make any
difference, but during acute myocardial infarction, it is probably better to chew a full size
aspirin tablet in your mouth for quicker first aid effect.

--
Matti Narkia

Theo Blote said:

I only know that 1/2 an aspirin a day can significantly reduce blood pressure. It thins the blood.
It does so by preventing platelet coagulation. But the main problem with aspirin is that it
shouldn't be taken after surgery as it can promote bleeding due to thin blood. If you decide to
take aspirin, desolve it under the tongue or it will not be effective.

???????????

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Theo Blote said:

If you decide to take aspirin, desolve it under the tongue or it will not be effective.

???????????

I expect that the recommendaation to put it under ones tongue was suggested for quicker action
after a heart attack. In normal regular use the same concentration gets into the blood supply
whether you absorb it in the mouth (by sucking on it), in the stomach (when you swallow it
whole), or in the small intestine (when you take coated aspirin).

Elmer

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:38:36 -0800, Elmer <[email hidden]>

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If you decide to take aspirin, desolve it under the tongue or it will not be effective.

???????????

I expect that the recommendaation to put it under ones tongue was suggested for quicker action
after a heart attack. In normal regular use the same concentration gets into the blood supply
whether you absorb it in the mouth (by sucking on it), in the stomach (when you swallow it
whole), or in the small intestine (when you take coated aspirin).

Perhaps so.

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Elmer said:

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>If you decide to take aspirin, desolve it under the tongue or it will not be effective.

???????????

I expect that the recommendaation to put it under ones tongue was suggested for quicker action
after a heart attack. In normal regular use the same concentration gets into the blood supply
whether you absorb it in the mouth (by sucking on it), in the stomach (when you swallow it
whole), or in the small intestine (when you take coated aspirin).

Perhaps so.

Actually for the quickest absorption, the aspirin should be chewed up and swallowed. Very little if
any will be absorbed sublingually.

Humbly,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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I thought that when you swallow apirin that actually just is proccessed by
the liver and will not be taken up into the blood stream. And that the whole
reason for sublingual was not only for heart attacks but to bypass the
liver's metabolic actions
theo
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Elmer said:

> >If you decide to take aspirin, desolve it under the tongue or it

will not be

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I expect that the recommendaation to put it under ones tongue was suggested for quicker
action after a heart attack. In normal regular use the same concentration gets into the
blood supply whether you

absorb

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it in the mouth (by sucking on it), in the stomach (when you swallow it whole), or in the small
intestine (when you take coated aspirin).

Perhaps so.

Actually for the quickest absorption, the aspirin should be chewed up and swallowed. Very little
if any will be absorbed sublingually.

Humbly,

Andrew

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Theo Blote said:

I thought that when you swallow apirin that actually just is proccessed by the liver and will not
be taken up into the blood stream. And that the whole reason for sublingual was not only for heart
attacks but to bypass the liver's metabolic actions theo

You thought incorrectly.

Humbly,

Andrew

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Board-Certified Cardiologist
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