Assos Shorts

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Pete received a paving slab in the mail this morning...

Roos

nah - he just thought it was in the mail, whereas it was simply a practise shot
to judge range ;-)

Cheers, PSF

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

nah - he just thought it was in the mail, whereas it was simply a practise shot
to judge range ;-)

There /was/ a paving slab in the mail, only it turned out to be a couple
of books, a large one about cheese and a huge one on the '53 Everest
expedition. They both look like excellent tomes, and the second will
double as weightlifting kit.

But it's, ummmm, good to know there'll be real ones "incoming" soon.

Pete.
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In article <[email hidden]>,
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> A lot is due to fashion and label snobbery. How can someone charge £1000
> quid and upwards for a woman's dress using a few bits of cloth?

Do you know anything about couture garments? From your remark I'd
guess not.

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There are many cases of a woman's garment being copied and sold in Top Shop
etc, that is very near the original, using similar materials, but costing a
fraction of the original.

A Top Shop knock-off has as much in common with the original
couture garment as a custom made carbon Dolan frame has in common
with a mass produced Halford's steel frame.

I got the impression that Simon was really referring more to fashion
label clothing, rather than couture clothing.

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It is quite plain that you do not know anything about couture
garments. Before you make such ill-informed comments again may I
suggest that you educate yourself in the arts of couture sewing,
design, construction and fitting?

Oh please, high horses look silly on usenet - anyway, one of the
delights of newsgroups is pontificating about something you no little
about :-)

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You obviously think that a dressmaker's time and skill are not
worth paying for. Believe me, that's your loss.

I don't think dresses suit me.....

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Chris French, Leeds

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There are many cases of a woman's garment being copied and sold in
Top Shop
etc, that is very near the original, using similar materials, but
costing a
fraction of the original.

True... but then they are stealing the intellectual property of the
designer. If someone didn't invest the money in the design top-shop
wouldn't have anything to knock off and we'd all still be walking around
in Shell Suits or whatever.

Back to Assos - worth every penny I think. Depends how much you value
your butt, however they are the most comfortable cycling shorts on the
market. By all means wear Decathlon 4 panel shorts at 10 quid a time but
the comfort and amount of wear you get out of Assos gear makes it worth
the extra dosh.

in message <[email hidden]>, David

Off (') said:

Quoted message said:

There are many cases of a woman's garment being copied and sold in
Top Shop
etc, that is very near the original, using similar materials, but
costing a
fraction of the original.

True... but then they are stealing the intellectual property of the
designer. If someone didn't invest the money in the design top-shop
wouldn't have anything to knock off and we'd all still be walking
around in Shell Suits or whatever.

Back to Assos - worth every penny I think. Depends how much you value
your butt, however they are the most comfortable cycling shorts on the
market. By all means wear Decathlon 4 panel shorts at 10 quid a time
but the comfort and amount of wear you get out of Assos gear makes it
worth the extra dosh.

To inject some seriousness into this discussion, the cost of a pair of
cycling shorts is in the stitching, which is (skilled) labour
intensive. The fabric is small proportion of the cost. The more panels,
the more piecing and seaming, the higher the cost (and the better the
fit). The only problem with this theory of value in cycling shorts is
you can get very good made in Scotland Endura eight panel shorts for
about thirty quid a pair...

I don't like the idea of buying Nike (or whoever)'s made-in-south-east-
asian-sweat-shop products at any price. I don't see why people who work
at the lycra-face, whether it be in Siam or Scotland (or Switzerland)
shouldn't earn a decent rate of pay and have decent standard working
conditions. The problem with this theory of value is that you can never
really tell when buying a garment what the working conditions of the
people making it were like (why isn't there a 'Fair Trade' equivalent
scheme for sportswear?) and how much got skimmed off by greedy western
brand owners.

Having said all that by far the nicest bought cycle clothing I have - by
_far_ - is Campagnolo branded and made in Bosnia Herzegovina. And
wasn't cheap.

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David Off <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Back to Assos - worth every penny I think. Depends how much you value
: your butt, however they are the most comfortable cycling shorts on the
: market.

It's all very personaly.

I seem to be the same size as the model they use to design Endura Medium
shorts so tend to buy them. I also have some Assos shorts. They are very
nice and comfortable but made in a thinner material than the Endura one.

This makes them better in real heat (25+) but worse when it's colder (<20).

Arthur

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