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>> "Bleve" == Bleve <[email hidden]> writes:

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I ate my body weight yesterday. sheesh. THe emergency snakes
got me thru. It was more a hickup than a reall bonk, nothing in
the boiler for a few mins.

Bleve> It's also not just how much you eat, but what you eat, what
Bleve> you ate the day before, how aerobically fit you are and what
Bleve> intensity you ride at. The higher the relative intensity,
Bleve> the more glygogen you burn through. (obvious, eh? 🙂 ).
Bleve> Keep your blood sugar levels up, work at a sustainable
Bleve> intensity, and you can ride all day.

Yeah, that's probably what saved me from bonking. To Sorrento I was
pushing quite hard, I hovered around 160 for the first three hours. Our
game plan was to work hard to get to an early ferry and play it by ear
once we got to the other side.

On the other side the morning's effort, it was 08:30! It was still the
freaking monring! Um, the pre-ferry effort and gastro caught up with
Vlad. When you've got gastro there's not a lot you can do. The end
result was I cycled well myself averaging below 140.

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Hmmm I had 2 litres of staminade and 3 of water. And I [censored]
about that much. I dont seem to need lots of water. Ian drank at
least 8 litres.

Bleve> 5 litres is probably about right - most people can only
Bleve> absorb ~750ml-1l per hour. Staminade is the stuff too, it's
Bleve> the only readily available sports drink (powder) you can get
Bleve> at the stupormarket which has magnesium in it.

Hmm, ten hours in total including ferry ride so maybe eight liters was
about right?

Bleve> The way we did this year was to mix one normal strength (3
Bleve> tspns per bidon) and one concentrate - 24 tspns in the second
Bleve> bidon, then when the first was empty, squirt some of the
Bleve> concentrate into the first, and fill with water. No fuss,
Bleve> very simple to do at rest stops, no packets of powder etc
Bleve> ... I went through 6 bidons on the ride, and one softdrink on
Bleve> the ferry.

I used a Camelback, the only time we stopped was the ferry and a rest
stop halfway round. Two hundred meters after that I got my second
puncture of the say :-p
--
Cheers | ~~ __@
Euan | ~~ _-\<,
Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

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PS. Sore mouth is teh suck. Can't pile my pasta full of herbs and
spices that burn the road rash (has anyone ever contemplated the
possibility of road rash on lips before? It's not something I can say
I ever thought of beforehand, and it's something quite out of the
ordinary).

Keep up the stories. It will encourage the rest of us to attempt
to ride more safely.

I did break my humerus as a teenager (not cycling) and found
that the toilet paper tends to unroll from the holder rather than
tear when using one hand.

Oh, and you don't want the feeling of sand in your mouth
after cycling into the back of a parked car. That would be
the tips of the front teeth. I think the only thing that saved
the front teeth was the orthodontic plate being used to
straighten two other teeth. I guess my parents weren't too
pleased with how I looked after me teeth or the bike.
Terminally bent frame and fork on dad's bike.
And I bent the frame on next bike they bought.
I've looked after the bikes that I bought somewhat better.

TimC said:

Any particular reason for snakes?

Nope, I browse just as well on;
jelly babies,
frogs,
pythons,
sharks,
spiders,
rats
and err, anything else of similar contents.

Russell Lang said:

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PS. Sore mouth is teh suck. Can't pile my pasta full of herbs and
spices that burn the road rash (has anyone ever contemplated the
possibility of road rash on lips before? It's not something I can say
I ever thought of beforehand, and it's something quite out of the
ordinary).

Keep up the stories. It will encourage the rest of us to attempt
to ride more safely.

I did break my humerus as a teenager (not cycling) and found
that the toilet paper tends to unroll from the holder rather than
tear when using one hand.

Oh, and you don't want the feeling of sand in your mouth
after cycling into the back of a parked car. That would be
the tips of the front teeth. I think the only thing that saved
the front teeth was the orthodontic plate being used to
straighten two other teeth. I guess my parents weren't too
pleased with how I looked after me teeth or the bike.
Terminally bent frame and fork on dad's bike.
And I bent the frame on next bike they bought.
I've looked after the bikes that I bought somewhat better.

OK...non bonking diet pre & during ATB for this lanky gatekeeper for Team Peleton Pink Inc going full classic anti clockwise:-

stats: 87kg 187 cm- minimal on bike training 2 weeks pre ATB...except altitude gym sessions at 5,300ft and some track sprint training at Colorado Springs velodrome at 6,500 vert ft. ( serious oxygen debt stuff)

here goes:-

day ATB minus 2 - dinner, heavy meat sauce on light penne pasta
day ATB minus 1 - lunch, leftover from previous above
- dinner, fillet steak, potatoes, greens
bed at 8pm

ATB breakfast at 3-30am oatmeal and raisin toast, 500 ml water
start at 4-50am 200ml gatorade
every 20 mins 50-100 ml gatorade
every 30 mins 30-50mm of Snickers marathin protein bar
9-00am banana plus 100mm enervite energy bar +
100g fruit trail mix pack
10am ATB provided lunch + 300ml gatorade
10-45 11-45 ferry crossing sun soaking bike gazing
12 noon 100 ml gatorade, fill 600ml bottle straight H2O
every 20 mins 50-100 ml gatorade/water
every 30-45 mins 20-35mm energy bar
3-30 pm finish-- eat anything in sight-incl mini mars bar, even the potatoe salad, two cans coke, meat jaffle, jelly snake....
7-30 pm bed

no bonking, full energy, no hassles, no cramp, no dryness, no soreness, no lack of attention, no halucinating....huge wish for a massive hamburger with egg, pineapple, beetroot and cheese about Rosebud/Dromana... tender bum bits otherwise generally feeling great and very satisfied...and a huge wow to the people at the finish line applauding us all coming in...that was priceless.....

Those who did it....great effort...those who didnt....theres 2006...do it!

rooman said:

no bonking, full energy, no hassles, no cramp, no dryness, no soreness,
no lack of attention, no halucinating....huge wish for a massive
hamburger with egg, pineapple, beetroot and cheese about
Rosebud/Dromana... tender bum bits otherwise generally feeling great

How hard were you working? You're pretty fit, so your body is good
at burning fat, and at low intensity, will cheerfully run mostly off
fat
for quite some time. If you were riding easy, E1 or below, which
sitting in a bunch at ~32km/h would be well and trully achievable.

Now, try the same meagre diet in a 300km road race!

Bleve said:

rooman wrote:

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My apologies for misreading your menu, you ate heaps 🙂

On 2005-10-17, Bleve (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

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Bleve said:

rooman wrote:

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My apologies for misreading your menu, you ate heaps 🙂

Don't scare me like that! I can't fit all that and more in my jersey
pockets!

--
TimC
"We must use Tim as a tool, not as a couch." -- J F Kennedy
--screwtape on RHOD

TimC said:

On 2005-10-17, Bleve (aka Bruce)

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Bleve said:

rooman wrote:

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My apologies for misreading your menu, you ate heaps 🙂

Don't scare me like that! I can't fit all that and more in my jersey
pockets!

BOB trailer dude! That's how I'm converting my figure into that of Hurley..

🙂

hippy

TimC said:

On 2005-10-17, Bleve (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

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Bleve said:

rooman wrote:

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My apologies for misreading your menu, you ate heaps 🙂

Don't scare me like that! I can't fit all that and more in my jersey
pockets!

--
TimC
"We must use Tim as a tool, not as a couch." -- J F Kennedy
--screwtape on RHOD

That be the fun bit...finding a place to put the stuff ( would be good if bv had some snacky handouts at the rest stops too ..if they did...didnt see any).

The following may be boring for most, but of interest to some...so be warned read on if you want 🙂

basic kit this ATB2005 was

on bike - under saddle pack with :
- 2 tubes,
- 4,5 6,mm allen key tool
- mini dry puncture kit,
- $5 bill (for last puncture when all others used- works well)
- first treatment rash kit
(didnt need any of this but never know- was worried about weight under saddle, but was ok)
1.25 litre Gatorade maxi bidon + 600ml gatorade mini bidon

In Jersey pockets:-
- mobile phone (camera type)
- phone wireless headset ( forgot to put in ear)
- spare specs
- mini tissue pack ( had sniffles from 9 flights in last 20 days)
- mini high pressure pump
- 1 banana ( ready and just right, not green like bv's issue)
- 2 jumbo snickers marathon protein bars (from Target Denver)
- 2 basic snickers marathon energy carbo bars ( safeway melb)
- 2 hershey energy nut bars ( yummmmmm)
-2 enervite energy bars ( le Knicks)
- 1 tropical fruit trail mix pack ( about 100 gms)
- PLUS some more cash, RACV Road Assist Total Care card ( hmm taxi home), Medical Insurance Card, Plastic Money)

(split snack bars between pockets on jersey and zip pocket in wind vest I left unzipped for access to snackos on the move...just rotated stuff as we stopped to fill closest reservoir)
- arm warmers stuffed in jersey at Geelong and wore leg warmers all the way- compression worked a treat)

missed sunscreen, lip salve ( doh)- borrowed anyway.

wore: team bibs, jersey, wind vest, arm warmers, leg warmers, head scarf, sunnies, and great leKnicks gloves (with no velcro, the type that fits over wrists, no chaffing very comfy), and wide fitting comfy tri-road shoes with light carbon sole ( very slipper like after a few hours, much appreciated by my 11 1/2 EEE's)

Generally an E1 run, some odd E2 sections and one E3 for a hard hit out up Balcombe Hill , av heart rate whole trip was 138, max at 167, spent 2.5 hrs in E2 ( 139-150bpm) overall....could have sat in 145-150 pretty much all day with some more energy reserves, but not necessary, this was a cruise.

The team objective was to get the around together, safely and enjoy our selves. That we surely did. A lot of planning, especially bunch riding as a team, working turns (and keeping watch ahead) , riding at constant pace, spinning, being steady, all developed on some long training rides ( 100+klms) for all the team in the three months leading up and a practice ATB in 2 days a month ago for most of them..( except me)....

Bleve said:

If you're doing enough riding, eating too much is not enough anyway 🙂

This is my new cycling mantra 😄

(It is replacing "I'm too old for this sh!t"😉

ali

rooman said:

- 2 jumbo snickers marathon protein bars (from Target
Denver)
- 2 basic snickers marathon energy carbo bars ( safeway
melb)

I was wondering where you got them from. I haven't been
able to find them anywhere - AFAIK, the major stupormarkets
aren't carrying them anymore (which was ok when they were
dumping their stock. 40c each! w00t!)

I carried the following

multitool, 1 tube, puncture repair kit & tyre levers in
seatbag.

Bidons, 2 x 750ml. 1 with normal strength C4P (staminade+protein)
1 with 6x strength, to decant into the other

in pockets -
5 growling dog bars (too chewy, but ok on warm days
and when cruising)
2 packets (285g) NCC snakes
arm warmers & thermal tshirt (once it got warm enough to take them
off)
phone & wallet in ziplock bag
mini pump
That was it. That's basically what I carry on any long
ride, solo or in a bunch. Fits into jersey pockets with no
worries. If it had been wet, a windvest or a rainjacket just fits,
but it's an exercise in tightly rolling them up.

I got out of E1 with a couple of efforts down the hills and
on the last little bridge before Lorimer St (comign from Port
Melb/Beach Rd). Mostly E1 or below.

Bleve said:

rooman wrote:

I was wondering where you got them from. I haven't been
able to find them anywhere - AFAIK, the major stupormarkets
aren't carrying them anymore (which was ok when they were
dumping their stock. 40c each! w00t!)

I've still got a couple of boxes. I had a mate in Adelaide raid all the stupormarkets over there and ship them over. I'll lend you a couple😎

Bleve said:

Mostly E1 or below.

Oh to be able to ride in E1🙂

quote='Bleve'rooman said:

- 2 basic snickers marathon energy carbo bars ( safeway
melb)

I was wondering where you got them from. I haven't been
able to find them anywhere - AFAIK, the major stupormarkets
aren't carrying them anymore (which was ok when they were
dumping their stock. 40c each! w00t!)

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There is a store in Oakleigh that still has the Peanut Marathon bars. I have two boxes of them. They are sold at three for $2.

I try to eat about 30 grams minumum of carbs an hour and these bars give me 27 grams plus all the other goodies inside. They are just out of date though.

Deest said:

I've still got a couple of boxes. I had a mate in Adelaide raid all the stupormarkets over there and ship them over. I'll lend you a couple😎

Oh to be able to ride in E1🙂

You just have to adjust your expecations of speed!

I'm lazy, I happily run in E1.

quote='Bleve'rooman said:

- 2 jumbo snickers marathon protein bars (from Target
Denver)
- 2 basic snickers marathon energy carbo bars ( safeway
melb)

I was wondering where you got them from. I haven't been
able to find them anywhere - AFAIK, the major stupormarkets
aren't carrying them anymore (which was ok when they were
dumping their stock. 40c each! w00t!)

I carried the following

multitool, 1 tube, puncture repair kit & tyre levers in
seatbag.

Bidons, 2 x 750ml. 1 with normal strength C4P (staminade+protein)
1 with 6x strength, to decant into the other

in pockets -
5 growling dog bars (too chewy, but ok on warm days
and when cruising)
2 packets (285g) NCC snakes
arm warmers & thermal tshirt (once it got warm enough to take them
off)
phone & wallet in ziplock bag
mini pump
That was it. That's basically what I carry on any long
ride, solo or in a bunch. Fits into jersey pockets with no
worries. If it had been wet, a windvest or a rainjacket just fits,
but it's an exercise in tightly rolling them up.

I got out of E1 with a couple of efforts down the hills and
on the last little bridge before Lorimer St (comign from Port
Melb/Beach Rd). Mostly E1 or below.[/QUOTE]
interesting to see what people packed for the ride... I did not eat enough during the ride, even those it was a fairly cruisy ride for me, with the other guys in the team, but I made up for it afterwards..... 🙂

.Had one of those pria bars they were handing just before I left
.had about 1 handful of NCC jelly babies at about Werribee
.did the old 1 concentrated bidon of gatorade powder mix in one bottle and straight water so it was mouthful of first one and then mouthful of water, gradually refilled the first bottle during the day, had a great concentration of gatorade near the end of the day, not to sweet and not toooo light
.ate all of the lunch handed out, except green banana
.Green Juice was sensational!!! looked bad but tasted fantastic!

that was about it for me, few more jelly babies on the way back and kept the fluids up

decided to give knee warmers and arm warmers a miss, storing them when I take them off, so struggled with a bit of being cold until Geelong!! got nice tan lines now 🙂
but the 2 guys from Brisbane were frozen stiff almost!

1 multi purpose tool, 2 spare tubes, 2 CO2 cartridges, repair kit, 2 tyre levers, did not need any of them.

MikeyOz said:

interesting to see what people packed for the ride... I did not eat enough during the ride, even those it was a fairly cruisy ride for me, with the other guys in the team, but I made up for it afterwards..... 🙂

.Had one of those pria bars they were handing just before I left
.had about 1 handful of NCC jelly babies at about Werribee
.did the old 1 concentrated bidon of gatorade powder mix in one bottle and straight water so it was mouthful of first one and then mouthful of water, gradually refilled the first bottle during the day, had a great concentration of gatorade near the end of the day, not to sweet and not toooo light
.ate all of the lunch handed out, except green banana
.Green Juice was sensational!!! looked bad but tasted fantastic!

that was about it for me, few more jelly babies on the way back and kept the fluids up

decided to give knee warmers and arm warmers a miss, storing them when I take them off, so struggled with a bit of being cold until Geelong!! got nice tan lines now 🙂
but the 2 guys from Brisbane were frozen stiff almost!

1 multi purpose tool, 2 spare tubes, 2 CO2 cartridges, repair kit, 2 tyre levers, did not need any of them.

[font=Times New Roman]Breakfast[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Porridge[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]2 slices of toast with honey[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]2 cups of Milo[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]What I took along.[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]Snacks[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]4 marathon bars[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]4 fruit bars[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]3 muffins bars[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]3 Bananas[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]2 Milo bar[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Mountain bread with honey and nutella chopped in small pieces[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]1 Apple[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Rocket fuel 6% Carbs Max– Homemade and put into plastic sleeves.[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]Bottle of coke at the finish[/font]
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[font=Times New Roman]Bike has Gator skin tyres with thorn tube in rear [/font]
[font=Times New Roman]2 water bottles[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Lights front and rear[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Pump[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]Saddle bag[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Tube[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Tyre levers[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Multi tool[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Chain breaker[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Spoke tool[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Kevlar Spoke[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]Topeak truck bag to put snacks and items below in.[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Sun Screen[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Ground effect thermal windproof jacket[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Spray Jacket.[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Arm warmers[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Knee warmers[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]First aid kit[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Phone [/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Wallet[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]I rode from home so total distance travelled was 270km.[/font]