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Did you regain all of the weight? Are you back on meds? How are you A1C,
Trigs, HDL & LDL? Are you exercising? Are you a man or a woman? What do
you weigh?

See, you need to let it all hang out just a little more....you don't need to
post all of your personal info, though, but those issues about weight &
health...it helps to tell the world so *you* can get over the feeling of
failure and move on the solving the problem. A lot of that not being able
find your way back is because of what's going on in your head, IMO.

You need to create a strong mind focus in addition to getting on LC.
Without the head straight, the body won't do right. Posting here frequently
is one way. Reading about LC, health, fitness, is another. Talking about
it, yet another. Don't discount the power of a focused mind.

zontar25 wrote:
:: I'm back.
:: Back about 4 1/2 years ago I went low carb and in a year went from
:: 365lbs to 233lbs. Then I went on a binge and couldn't get off that
:: sugar and junkfood merrygoround. For someone who ate low carb for
:: over a year I just couldn't seem to find my way back. There were a
:: few starts and stops, but 3 weeks was the longest that I stayed low
:: carb.
::
:: Well it's only been 6 days but I really need to get this right this
:: time. I need to know why when I do fail that I can't clime back up on
:: that wagon and move on. That's how powerful that demon sugar is.
::
:: I found this group helpful in the past, so I am back to stay. Low
:: carb not only gave me wieght loss, it also got me off diabetes meds,
:: lowered my blood presure, lowered my triglyserides, etc.
::
:: I look forwards to the benifits again.

zontar25 said:

I'm back.
Back about 4 1/2 years ago I went low carb and in a year went from
365lbs to 233lbs. Then I went on a binge and couldn't get off that
sugar and junkfood merrygoround. For someone who ate low carb for over
a year I just couldn't seem to find my way back. There were a few
starts and stops, but 3 weeks was the longest that I stayed low carb.

Well it's only been 6 days but I really need to get this right this
time. I need to know why when I do fail that I can't clime back up on
that wagon and move on. That's how powerful that demon sugar is.

I found this group helpful in the past, so I am back to stay. Low carb
not only gave me wieght loss, it also got me off diabetes meds,
lowered my blood presure, lowered my triglyserides, etc.

I look forwards to the benifits again.

Good luck to you! You might find it helpful to check out Overeaters
Anonymous. They have online meetings several times a day, and you can
find them here: http://www.therecoverygroup.org/

Personally speaking, finally figuring out that I am powerless over the
things that make me binge, that old demon sugar among them, has
helped me a great deal when the power of my own will is not enough.
Through the grace of my Higher Power, I've been able to stick to my
low-carb/slow-carb plan for today so far, plus for the last six
months. I still sometimes have cravings, terrible cravings, but the
support of my Higher Power and this group help me to know I'm not
alone.

zontar25 said:

Back about 4 1/2 years ago I went low carb and in a year went from
365lbs to 233lbs. Then I went on a binge and couldn't get off that
sugar and junkfood merrygoround.

Easy to stay on does NOT equal hard to fall off.

Quoted message said:

I need to know why when I do fail that I can't clime back up on
that wagon and move on. That's how powerful that demon sugar is.

Because the insulin swings really do act just like an addiction.

Like an addiction hard to go through the withdrawals at the start.
Like an addiction the temptation to fall of the wagon never goes
away. Like an addiction once on the wagon staying on the wagon
is not difficult.

It's an unstable situation. But think it over. What choice do you
actually have? Struggle back on then ride the benefits, or stay
on sugar and feel sick? No matter how many times I fall off the
wagon that's what I ask myself. And when I'm about to take that
fatal first bite I ask myself which is more important, that first bite
or the struggle to get back on the wagon ...

Quoted message said:

Personally speaking, finally figuring out that I am powerless over the
things that make me binge, that old demon sugar among them, has
helped me a great deal when the power of my own will is not enough.

I don't think you are powerless. Just figuring out which items make you want
to binge is a huge step in conquering the impulse to binge. With me, it was
that "aha!" moment when I said, "I've had this urgent need to eat before,
but now I realize it is triggered by a certain food." The knowledge will
give you the willpower to succeed.

Pat in TX

Black Seamus said:

zontar25 said:

I'm back.
Back about 4 1/2 years ago I went low carb and in a year went from
365lbs to 233lbs. Then I went on a binge and couldn't get off that
sugar and junkfood merrygoround. For someone who ate low carb for over
a year I just couldn't seem to find my way back. There were a few
starts and stops, but 3 weeks was the longest that I stayed low carb.

Quoted message said:

Well it's only been 6 days but I really need to get this right this
time. I need to know why when I do fail that I can't clime back up on
that wagon and move on. That's how powerful that demon sugar is.

Quoted message said:

I found this group helpful in the past, so I am back to stay. Low carb
not only gave me wieght loss, it also got me off diabetes meds,
lowered my blood presure, lowered my triglyserides, etc.

Quoted message said:

I look forwards to the benifits again.

Good luck to you! You might find it helpful to check out Overeaters
Anonymous. They have online meetings several times a day, and you can
find them here:http://www.therecoverygroup.org/

Personally speaking, finally figuring out that I am powerless over the
things that make me binge, that old demon sugar among them, has
helped me a great deal when the power of my own will is not enough.
Through the grace of my Higher Power, I've been able to stick to my
low-carb/slow-carb plan for today so far, plus for the last six
months. I still sometimes have cravings, terrible cravings, but the
support of my Higher Power and this group help me to know I'm not
alone.- Hide quoted text -

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This language never worked for me. I'm not going to admit I'm helpless
or powerless over *anything* once I have the right information and I
have assimilated it properly.

I think that the public has been either mistakenly or deliberately
misinformed about what certain substances do in the body. Once you
even get an inkling that this true, you still have to metabolize it
and make a personal decision that you're going to act accordingly.

This holds true for all kinds of chemicals. Thalidomide, radium
watchdials, red dye number whatever it was, and the devil tobaccy.
We're not always clear on what is poisonous and what is not -- and
even once you know it's poison, if it tastes like cheesycakes, you
might not believe it at first. It can take a while. It doesn't make
you powerless, it makes you human. Think about it, somebody actually
invented high fructose corn syrup, and somebody had to believe at one
point that that stuff was good for diabetics.

They were wrong, is all. It took about ten years for the stuff to
start coming out of what it got put in.

Refined carbohydrates don't just make you sick. They make everybody
sick eventually. It's not your fault, it's just a fact. There's no
power to be considered in it anywhere.

And anyway, I can't imagine standing in front of a Hostess Ho Ho and
Admitting Its Power.

c
I Am Sticky Bun. Kneel Before Me.

In article <[email hidden]>, Doug
Freyburger says...

Quoted message said:

Like an addiction hard to go through the withdrawals at the start.
Like an addiction the temptation to fall of the wagon never goes
away. Like an addiction once on the wagon staying on the wagon
is not difficult.

It's an unstable situation. But think it over. What choice do you
actually have? Struggle back on then ride the benefits, or stay
on sugar and feel sick? No matter how many times I fall off the
wagon that's what I ask myself. And when I'm about to take that
fatal first bite I ask myself which is more important, that first bite
or the struggle to get back on the wagon ...

It took a while for me to realize what was happening to me. Over the years, my
glucose level kept creeping up. In August, it hit 131. My triglyceride level was
also heading north of 200. The doctor started talking about diabetes medication
and Syndrome X. That put a pretty big scare into me.

I bought some Syndrome X books from Amazon and started reading. I immediately
cut out all the white stuff (potatoes, rice, breads, pastas). No more beer or
sodas. No more fruit juices. I also cut out desserts.

Labor Day weekend we were with some friends. One of them is a 75-year old guy
with diabetes. I watched him test his blood sugar, then prepare his insulin shot
and give it to himself in the stomach.

That was my real awakening. I'm down about 30 lbs. since August, and my glucose
level is just above normal. Tryglicerides are now OK.

I was at a luncheon a couple of days ago. They brought around rolls--I declined.
I drank iced tea while everyone was drinking sodas. Lunch was a Caeser salad,
broiled salmon and some beans--which was just fine with me.

I also declined the Creme Brulee and just had coffee. My table mates said that I
showed a lot of discipline.

To me, it isn't discipline. It is a metter of simply refusing to let that image
of having to inject myself 3-5 times a day become a reality.

Mark

zontar25 said:

I found this group helpful in the past, so I am back to stay. Low carb
not only gave me wieght loss, it also got me off diabetes meds,
lowered my blood presure, lowered my triglyserides, etc.

I look forwards to the benifits again.

A lot of us have been on ASDLC for a long time. What was
your name before, or some info that might help us remember
who you are.

--
Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
-Emiliano Zapata

Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at:
http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm

Hey Mark,
Congratz on the 30 pounds.
Spelling your name "Filice," you are probably a cousin.
Are you a Gilroy Filice?

Dave Filice
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LowCarbHighFat/

(I'm not the David Filice that was a band member in that nightclub fire a
few years ago.) [There are folks stalking those band members. I got a phone
call from one.]

"Mark Filice" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Doug
Freyburger says...

Quoted message said:

Like an addiction hard to go through the withdrawals at the start.
Like an addiction the temptation to fall of the wagon never goes
away. Like an addiction once on the wagon staying on the wagon
is not difficult.

It's an unstable situation. But think it over. What choice do you
actually have? Struggle back on then ride the benefits, or stay
on sugar and feel sick? No matter how many times I fall off the
wagon that's what I ask myself. And when I'm about to take that
fatal first bite I ask myself which is more important, that first bite
or the struggle to get back on the wagon ...

It took a while for me to realize what was happening to me. Over the
years, my
glucose level kept creeping up. In August, it hit 131. My triglyceride
level was
also heading north of 200. The doctor started talking about diabetes
medication
and Syndrome X. That put a pretty big scare into me.

I bought some Syndrome X books from Amazon and started reading. I
immediately
cut out all the white stuff (potatoes, rice, breads, pastas). No more beer
or
sodas. No more fruit juices. I also cut out desserts.

Labor Day weekend we were with some friends. One of them is a 75-year old
guy
with diabetes. I watched him test his blood sugar, then prepare his
insulin shot
and give it to himself in the stomach.

That was my real awakening. I'm down about 30 lbs. since August, and my
glucose
level is just above normal. Tryglicerides are now OK.

I was at a luncheon a couple of days ago. They brought around rolls--I
declined.
I drank iced tea while everyone was drinking sodas. Lunch was a Caeser
salad,
broiled salmon and some beans--which was just fine with me.

I also declined the Creme Brulee and just had coffee. My table mates said
that I
showed a lot of discipline.

To me, it isn't discipline. It is a metter of simply refusing to let that
image
of having to inject myself 3-5 times a day become a reality.

Mark

RRzVRR said:

zontar25 said:

I found this group helpful in the past, so I am back to stay. Low carb
not only gave me wieght loss, it also got me off diabetes meds,
lowered my blood presure, lowered my triglyserides, etc.

Quoted message said:

I look forwards to the benifits again.

A lot of us have been on ASDLC for a long time. What was
your name before, or some info that might help us remember
who you are.

--
Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond.

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
-Emiliano Zapata

It's zontar25. I just did a search on it and there is plenty of old messages from me there.