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Bakelite -- oven safe?

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  1. I'm making braised short ribs for one of our holiday dinners. I'd like to
    cook them in a vintage pot which appears to have Bakelite handles. The
    pot's easily 40 years old; the dish is long-cooking at around 325F.

    Can anyone tell me if the handles are oven-safe? I'm more than happy to
    wrap the handles with foil, if that would have any heat-reflecting effect.
    I'm not finding any answers through Dogpile or AskJeeves (I'm probably not
    asking the right question), although modern "Bakelite" (or what they're
    claiming is Bakelite -- after further reading, I have my doubts) appears to
    be safe to 350F.

    Thoughts?
    -j

  2. jacqui{JB} said:

    I'm making braised short ribs for one of our holiday dinners. I'd like to
    cook them in a vintage pot which appears to have Bakelite handles. The
    pot's easily 40 years old; the dish is long-cooking at around 325F.

    Can anyone tell me if the handles are oven-safe?

    If it's old Bakelite it probably is reasonable oven safe at 325, but
    you aren't doing the Bakelite any favors; the more you use it at high
    temperatures the more brittle it becomes.

    Note that Bakelite doesn't melt, it just becomes brittle and gives off
    nasty phenol vapors. But if it's old Bakelite, much of the phenol has
    probably been baked out already.

    --
    Richard W Kaszeta
    [email hidden]
    http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

  3. jacqui{JB} said:

    I'm making braised short ribs for one of our holiday dinners. I'd like to
    cook them in a vintage pot which appears to have Bakelite handles. The
    pot's easily 40 years old; the dish is long-cooking at around 325F.

    Can anyone tell me if the handles are oven-safe? I'm more than happy to
    wrap the handles with foil, if that would have any heat-reflecting effect.
    I'm not finding any answers through Dogpile or AskJeeves (I'm probably not
    asking the right question), although modern "Bakelite" (or what they're
    claiming is Bakelite -- after further reading, I have my doubts) appears to
    be safe to 350F.

    Thoughts?
    -j

    Bakelite is s thermoset plastic, so it wont melt. But it does char, and
    you're well into charring temps there. I wouldnt.

    NT

  4. jacqui{JB} said:

    Can anyone tell me if the handles are oven-safe?

    Probably not. While Bakelite is heat resistant and good for handles
    on hot pans, it's not entirely heat proof. Here's one data source:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1F062B5C

    You'll notice it claims 2 hrs at 160 deg C and 5000 hrs at 140 deg C.
    I'm not sure if these cumulative, or not. Either way, I'm sure 350
    deg F is too hot for any time. You'll know when you've gotten
    Bakelite too hot. It stinks to high heaven.

    C F
    160 320
    140 284

    nb

    nb

  5. "jacqui{JB}" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone tell me if the handles are oven-safe?

    Thanks for the input, folks. I'm going to pass; I'm rather fond of this pot
    and I'd hate to damage it. Too bad the spousal unit immediately vetoed my
    solution: to go forth and purchase a Le Creuset covered casserole in
    approximately the same dimensions. I suppose I'll have to make do with
    something less expensi ... err, exotic. 🙂

    -j

  6. jacqui{JB} said:

    I'm making braised short ribs for one of our holiday dinners. I'd like to
    cook them in a vintage pot which appears to have Bakelite handles. The
    pot's easily 40 years old; the dish is long-cooking at around 325F.

    Can anyone tell me if the handles are oven-safe? I'm more than happy to
    wrap the handles with foil, if that would have any heat-reflecting effect.
    I'm not finding any answers through Dogpile or AskJeeves (I'm probably not
    asking the right question), although modern "Bakelite" (or what they're
    claiming is Bakelite -- after further reading, I have my doubts) appears to
    be safe to 350F.

    Thoughts?
    -j

    Yes they are oven safe, but I don't think oven use is really all that
    good for the handles. Covering with foil is a good idea.

    Bob

  7. zxcvbob said:


    jacqui{JB} said:

    I'm making braised short ribs for one of our holiday dinners. I'd like to
    cook them in a vintage pot which appears to have Bakelite handles. The
    pot's easily 40 years old; the dish is long-cooking at around 325F.

    Can anyone tell me if the handles are oven-safe? I'm more than happy to
    wrap the handles with foil, if that would have any heat-reflecting effect.
    I'm not finding any answers through Dogpile or AskJeeves (I'm probably not
    asking the right question), although modern "Bakelite" (or what they're
    claiming is Bakelite -- after further reading, I have my doubts) appears to
    be safe to 350F.

    Thoughts?
    -j

    Yes they are oven safe, but I don't think oven use is really all that
    good for the handles. Covering with foil is a good idea.

    Bob

    Could you remove the handles, them re-attach them when the dish is
    baked? I've found handles loosen over the years and I have to tighten
    them down every once in a while.

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