BALL of foot support

"C C" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Are there any running shoes that
simulate what spikes would do but are running shoes(Ball of foot
slightly elevated?

My wife uses a Dr. Scholl's gel ball-of-foot insert thingie. She's always
had a bony foot there and not enough padding, and this works for her. She
uses it in both her running and shlepping around shoes.

D Stumpus said:

My wife uses a Dr. Scholl's gel ball-of-foot insert thingie. She's always
had a bony foot there and not enough padding, and this works for her. She
uses it in both her running and shlepping around shoes.

Dan,
Why not just up her pressure to 40psi? That should add sufficent
padding to her balls.

C C said:

There are thousands of running/cross training shoes that give support to
the heel of the foot- what about the ball of the foot? Anything that
supports the ball of foot. Are there any soles that have just as much
cushion(or more) for the ball of foot? Are there any running shoes that
simulate what spikes would do but are running shoes(Ball of foot
slightly elevated? Appreciate a response. thank you!

Not clear what you're asking. The question as posed doesn't make a whole lot of
sense, because "support" in a running shoe does not refer to the heel or the
sole (it refers to medial rigidity). All running shoes have both heel and toe
cushioning. Distance spikes do not have an elevated forefoot, they are
approximately dead flat but have a slightly elevated heel (though not as much as
a trainer or a road flat).

What problem are you trying to solve, or what are you trying to achieve ?

Cheers,
--
Elflord

"C C" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

There are thousands of running/cross training shoes that give support to
the heel of the foot- what about the ball of the foot? Anything that
supports the ball of foot. Are there any soles that have just as much
cushion(or more) for the ball of foot? Are there any running shoes that
simulate what spikes would do but are running shoes(Ball of foot
slightly elevated? Appreciate a response. thank you!
chris

If you find any like that, let me know. I posted a similar question last
week and got good responses. I wanted more forefoot padding, with less arch
and heel. Neutral shoes generally seem to be the prescription for me, though
I would also love to find some flatter models than I've found so far. The
models recommended to me were:

Vitruvian (I chose the Harmony)
http://www.vitruvianrunning.com/models.html

Brooks Burn

Mizuno Precision

Saucony Fastswitch

So far in my search for neutral shoes with more forefoot padding, I've tried
the Vitruvians, and I got some New Balance 755. Others not available in my
size on first search. I like the Vitruvian Harmonys - nice simple but ugly
shoe that runs well - but they feel more like racing shoes to me. The NB
755s seem to have more forefoot padding and are the most comfortable shoes
I've tried in a while. I'll soon test them on a long run.

-Tony

is there any shoe that provides as much cushion in the ball of foot like
nike shox does for the heel of the foot? is there any shoe where the
entire bottom looks like the heel of the new nike shox shoe. if there
isn't there should be! The whole sole instead of just the heel should
have shox!

C C said:

is there any shoe that provides as much cushion in the ball of foot like
nike shox does for the heel of the foot? is there any shoe where the
entire bottom looks like the heel of the new nike shox shoe. if there

Yes, there is. Nike make a version of the shox that has pillars all the way
along. Still, the heel on these shoes is elevated like any other trainer.

Quoted message said:

isn't there should be! The whole sole instead of just the heel should
have shox!

Why ?

You still haven't said anything about the problem you are trying to solve.

I can think of some of the possibilities -- and the way to address your issue
depends greatly on what is motivating this concern.

Are you looking for a shoe with better cushioning ?
Are you looking for a shoe that facilitates better running form ?
Are you looking for a shoe appropriate for racing ?
Are recovering from a particular type of injury ?

Specifically adding forefoot cushioning doesn't really address any of these
issues. If you run very lightly on the balls of your feet, with very little
heel contact, then your overall impact is lighter, and you're best off in a
pair of light trainers or racing flats (less cushioning everywhere). If you
need more cusioning, get some durable cushioning shoes. If you impact heavily
on the balls of your feet, you are either sprinting (in which case, get sprint
spikes) or you have a serious problem with your running form (in which case,
racing flats would force you to get on top of it really quickly)

Cheers,
--
Elflord

Tony S. said:

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Quoted message said:

There are thousands of running/cross training shoes that give support to
the heel of the foot- what about the ball of the foot? Anything that
supports the ball of foot. Are there any soles that have just as much
cushion(or more) for the ball of foot? Are there any running shoes that
simulate what spikes would do but are running shoes(Ball of foot
slightly elevated? Appreciate a response. thank you!
chris

If you find any like that, let me know. I posted a similar question last
week and got good responses. I wanted more forefoot padding, with less arch
and heel. Neutral shoes generally seem to be the prescription for me, though
I would also love to find some flatter models than I've found so far. The
models recommended to me were:

Vitruvian (I chose the Harmony)http://www.vitruvianrunning.com/models.html

Brooks Burn

Mizuno Precision

Saucony Fastswitch

So far in my search for neutral shoes with more forefoot padding, I've tried
the Vitruvians, and I got some New Balance 755. Others not available in my
size on first search. I like the Vitruvian Harmonys - nice simple but ugly
shoe that runs well - but they feel more like racing shoes to me. The NB
755s seem to have more forefoot padding and are the most comfortable shoes
I've tried in a while. I'll soon test them on a long run.

-Tony

I like fastwitch for racing, but don't wear them in training. They are
flats and are pretty light.

Parker

Elflord said:

Yes, there is. Nike make a version of the shox that has pillars all the way
along. Still, the heel on these shoes is elevated like any other trainer.

Do NOT buy these pieces of [censored]! Why an Elf would recommend such [censored]
is beyond me. Shox are the biggest farce to ever hit the streets, and
overall Nike is overpriced garbage. 30% to 40% of the price you pay
for nikes is for advertising money. Buy a much better shoe without the
advertisement tax added n.

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Quoted message said:

is there any shoe that provides as much cushion in the ball of foot
like
nike shox does for the heel of the foot? is there any shoe where the
entire bottom looks like the heel of the new nike shox shoe. if there
isn't there should be! The whole sole instead of just the heel should
have shox!

Sounds like you want a mattress on your feet. What is it that you think
you need a few yards of cushioning for?

-DF

Doug Freese said:

Sounds like you want a mattress on your feet.
-DF

Doug has one strapped on his back (or stomach as the case maybe) so he
knows about these things.