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  1. In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet) I purchased a set of bar
    end shifters for my tri bars earlier. Shame I have no idea how to fit
    them or know what model they are other than being Shimano and being 8/9
    speed compatible.

    Anything is better than the crappy grip shifters that are on my tri bars
    at the moment. Can anyone point me to a web page detailing how to fit
    the buggers...?

    Thanks,

    --
    bob [at] bobarnott [dot] com http://www.bobarnott.com/
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "Crash programs fail because they are based on theory that,
    with nine women pregnant, you can get a baby in a month."
    -- Wernher von Braun

  2. Bob said:

    In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet)

    What for?

  3. On 16/04/2007 17:27, Ziggy said,

    Quoted message said:
    Bob said:

    In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet)

    What for?

    It's a free country? (I think!)

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  4. Paul Boyd said:

    On 16/04/2007 17:27, Ziggy said,

    Quoted message said:
    Bob said:

    In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet)

    What for?

    It's a free country? (I think!)

    Free it may be but that doesn't mean people do things for no reason.

    Anyway, it was just a little joke after all the helmet threads of the past week
    or so.

  5. "Bob" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

    Quoted message said:

    In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet) I purchased a set of bar
    end shifters for my tri bars earlier. Shame I have no idea how to fit
    them or know what model they are other than being Shimano and
    being 8/9 speed compatible.

    In theory they're Dura Ace levers, but they were the only 9-speed bar-cons
    Shimano made. They'll shift 8-speed cassettes with an old (7400 series) Dura
    Ace derailleur, or 9-speed cassettes with just about any other Shimano rear
    derailleur.

    Quoted message said:

    Anything is better than the crappy grip shifters that are on my tri bars
    at the moment. Can anyone point me to a web page detailing how to fit
    the buggers...?

    http://cycle.shimano-eu.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/SI/Dura-Ace/SL-BS78/6J60A_EN_v1_m56577569830605258.PDF

    or

    http://tinyurl.com/2atyr7

    James Thomson

  6. On 16/04/2007 17:56, Ziggy said,

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, it was just a little joke after all the helmet threads of the past week
    or so.

    Yeah, I know - I just forgot the smiley. Have one here instead :-)

    --
    Paul Boyd
    http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

  7. Ziggy said:
    Bob said:

    In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet)

    What for?

    They are mandatory for taking part in triathlons.

    http://www.britishtriathlon.org/events/rules/technicalrules.php

    11.3 Approved cycling safety helmets of ANSI Z90.4, SNELL B90, EN 1078
    or an equivalent national standard must be worn by competitors. (NB: a
    CE mark is NOT an approval mark.)

    --
    bob [at] bobarnott [dot] com http://www.bobarnott.com/
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "Crash programs fail because they are based on theory that,
    with nine women pregnant, you can get a baby in a month."
    -- Wernher von Braun

  8. James Thomson said:

    "Bob" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

    Quoted message said:

    In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet) I purchased a set of bar
    end shifters for my tri bars earlier. Shame I have no idea how to fit
    them or know what model they are other than being Shimano and
    being 8/9 speed compatible.

    In theory they're Dura Ace levers, but they were the only 9-speed bar-cons
    Shimano made. They'll shift 8-speed cassettes with an old (7400 series) Dura
    Ace derailleur, or 9-speed cassettes with just about any other Shimano rear
    derailleur.

    I've got an 8 speed 105 front and rear derailleurs, I just assumed
    they'd be compatible...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Anything is better than the crappy grip shifters that are on my tri bars
    at the moment. Can anyone point me to a web page detailing how to fit
    the buggers...?

    http://cycle.shimano-eu.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/SI/Dura-Ace/SL-BS78/6J60A_EN_v1_m56577569830605258.PDF

    Perfect, thanks.

    --
    bob [at] bobarnott [dot] com http://www.bobarnott.com/
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "Crash programs fail because they are based on theory that,
    with nine women pregnant, you can get a baby in a month."
    -- Wernher von Braun

  9. (Ziggy) said:
    Bob said:

    In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet)

    What for?

    Racing, I'd guess.

    Chris
    --
    Chris Eilbeck

  10. Bob said:
    James Thomson said:

    "Bob" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

    Quoted message said:

    In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet) I purchased a set of bar
    end shifters for my tri bars earlier. Shame I have no idea how to fit
    them or know what model they are other than being Shimano and
    being 8/9 speed compatible.

    In theory they're Dura Ace levers, but they were the only 9-speed
    bar-cons Shimano made. They'll shift 8-speed cassettes with an old
    (7400 series) Dura Ace derailleur, or 9-speed cassettes with just
    about any other Shimano rear derailleur.

    I've got an 8 speed 105 front and rear derailleurs, I just assumed
    they'd be compatible...


    they all look the same, but Shimano have made
    7 speeds
    8 speeds
    8 speeds for Dura Ace ie with 9 speed spacing, rd 7400 rq'd for 8 speed
    9 speeds
    10 speeds

    If you've got a 9 speed version you'll want to clamp the cable on the
    'wrong' side of the clampbolt for your 8 speed setup, unless you can
    find a 8 speed DA derailleur

    --
    ---
    Marten Gerritsen

    INFOapestaartjeM-GINEERINGpuntNL
    www.m-gineering.nl

  11. "Bob" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

    Quoted message said:

    I've got an 8 speed 105 front and rear derailleurs, I just
    assumed they'd be compatible...

    There's a trick to make them shift 8-speeds with a non-7400 derailleur:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.html#alternate

    On the other hand, you could upgrade to 9-speed with just a new cassette and
    chain...

    James Thomson

  12. Paul Boyd said:

    On 16/04/2007 17:56, Ziggy said,

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, it was just a little joke after all the helmet threads of the past week
    or so.

    Yeah, I know - I just forgot the smiley. Have one here instead :-)

    Ta muchly :-)

  13. On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:30:00 +0100, Chris Eilbeck <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    (Ziggy) said:
    Bob said:

    In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet)

    What for?

    Racing, I'd guess.

    I must not forget to add a smiley when I make a 'joke'.
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  14. Bob said:
    Ziggy said:
    Bob said:

    In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet)

    What for?

    They are mandatory for taking part in triathlons.

    http://www.britishtriathlon.org/events/rules/technicalrules.php

    11.3 Approved cycling safety helmets of ANSI Z90.4, SNELL B90, EN 1078
    or an equivalent national standard must be worn by competitors. (NB: a
    CE mark is NOT an approval mark.)

    I must not forget to add a smiley when I make a 'joke'.
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  15. Ziggy said:
    Bob said:
    Ziggy said:

    On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:26:21 +0100, Bob <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet)
    What for?


    They are mandatory for taking part in triathlons.

    http://www.britishtriathlon.org/events/rules/technicalrules.php

    11.3 Approved cycling safety helmets of ANSI Z90.4, SNELL B90, EN 1078
    or an equivalent national standard must be worn by competitors. (NB: a
    CE mark is NOT an approval mark.)

    I must not forget to add a smiley when I make a 'joke'.

    "What for?" is not a joke. Don't give up your day job, you'll never
    make it as a comedian.

    --
    bob [at] bobarnott [dot] com http://www.bobarnott.com/
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "Crash programs fail because they are based on theory that,
    with nine women pregnant, you can get a baby in a month."
    -- Wernher von Braun

  16. James Thomson said:

    "Bob" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

    Quoted message said:

    I've got an 8 speed 105 front and rear derailleurs, I just
    assumed they'd be compatible...

    There's a trick to make them shift 8-speeds with a non-7400 derailleur:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.html#alternate

    On the other hand, you could upgrade to 9-speed with just a new cassette and
    chain...

    and rear hub, unless you're saying that all 8 speed hubs take 9 speed
    cassettes...?

    Cheers,

    --
    bob [at] bobarnott [dot] com http://www.bobarnott.com/
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "Crash programs fail because they are based on theory that,
    with nine women pregnant, you can get a baby in a month."
    -- Wernher von Braun

  17. Bob said:
    Ziggy said:
    Bob said:

    Ziggy wrote:
    > On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:26:21 +0100, Bob <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> In a fit of spending (I needed a new helmet)
    > What for?
    They are mandatory for taking part in triathlons.

    http://www.britishtriathlon.org/events/rules/technicalrules.php

    11.3 Approved cycling safety helmets of ANSI Z90.4, SNELL B90, EN 1078
    or an equivalent national standard must be worn by competitors. (NB: a
    CE mark is NOT an approval mark.)

    I must not forget to add a smiley when I make a 'joke'.

    "What for?" is not a joke. Don't give up your day job, you'll never
    make it as a comedian.

    It does require just a little intelligence to 'get' it ;-)

  18. "Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    James Thomson said:

    "Bob" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

    Quoted message said:

    I've got an 8 speed 105 front and rear derailleurs, I just
    assumed they'd be compatible...

    There's a trick to make them shift 8-speeds with a non-7400 derailleur:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.html#alternate

    On the other hand, you could upgrade to 9-speed with just a new cassette
    and chain...

    and rear hub, unless you're saying that all 8 speed hubs take 9 speed
    cassettes...?

    True for shimano at least - 8 speed is the same width as 9.

    cheers,
    clive

  19. Clive George said:

    "Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    James Thomson said:

    "Bob" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

    > I've got an 8 speed 105 front and rear derailleurs, I just
    > assumed they'd be compatible...

    There's a trick to make them shift 8-speeds with a non-7400 derailleur:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.html#alternate

    On the other hand, you could upgrade to 9-speed with just a new
    cassette and chain...

    and rear hub, unless you're saying that all 8 speed hubs take 9 speed
    cassettes...?

    True for shimano at least - 8 speed is the same width as 9.

    Oooo, I might have to go back and get a 9 speed cassette and chain
    then... :-D

    Cheers,

    --
    bob [at] bobarnott [dot] com http://www.bobarnott.com/
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "Crash programs fail because they are based on theory that,
    with nine women pregnant, you can get a baby in a month."
    -- Wernher von Braun

  20. Clive George said:


    True for shimano at least - 8 speed is the same width as 9.

    and about a mm wider than 10 speed 😉
    --
    ---
    Marten Gerritsen

    INFOapestaartjeM-GINEERINGpuntNL
    www.m-gineering.nl

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