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  1. I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of
    kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.

    small saucepan
    large saucepan with lid
    frying pan
    roasting pan - size based on household size
    muffin tin
    cookie sheet
    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone
    sharp chef's knife
    paring knife
    manual can opener
    toaster
    strainer
    lg spoon for stirring
    measuring cups
    measuring spoons
    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things
    listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be
    found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I
    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

  2. "~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of
    kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.

    small saucepan
    large saucepan with lid
    frying pan
    roasting pan - size based on household size
    muffin tin
    cookie sheet
    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone
    sharp chef's knife
    paring knife
    manual can opener
    toaster
    strainer
    lg spoon for stirring
    measuring cups
    measuring spoons
    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things
    listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be
    found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I
    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    You forgot something: A source of music. And, although some might like to
    entertain their own delusions on the subject, supermarket buyers give
    absolutely no thought to the size of the household when they decide what
    size turkeys to sell. Everyone should have two or three sizes of roasting
    pans.

  3. ~patches~ said:

    I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of
    kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.

    small saucepan
    large saucepan with lid
    frying pan
    roasting pan - size based on household size
    muffin tin
    cookie sheet
    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone
    sharp chef's knife
    paring knife
    manual can opener
    toaster
    strainer
    lg spoon for stirring
    measuring cups
    measuring spoons
    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things
    listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be
    found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I
    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    I'd probably add a pair of cheap metal tongs to the list. I find mine
    very handy, and they're a dollar store sort of expense. Personally,
    I'd replace the muffin tin with a loaf pan, but that's a definite case
    where it's just personal preference. I'd probably try to squeeze a
    thermometer, preferably digital, onto the list. Especially for new
    cooks, I think it's useful to have a clear-cut measurement for
    doneness. Overall though, your list strikes me as quite excellent.

    --
    Ernest

  4. ~patches~ said:

    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    Definitely one item, a good mixing bowel(s). Optional, a good veggie
    peeler. Yes, I realize a paring knife will do, but a peeler is so
    much faster and less wasteful. One last thing, a pitcher of
    some kind for drinks, alcoholic and non. Oh yeah!... some kinda
    coffee brewer.

    nb

  5. ~patches~ said:

    I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of
    kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.

    small saucepan
    large saucepan with lid

    Basics for cooking? hmm... one pot, small. Also one spoon. (personally,
    i'd give someone an "everyday stirfry pot" but.... that suits my cooking
    pretty well).

    Quoted message said:

    frying pan

    often not usable in apartment kitchens.

    Quoted message said:

    roasting pan - size based on household size

    again, some apartments don't have ovens

    Quoted message said:

    muffin tin
    cookie sheet

    both useful, but not necessary unless you like sweets.

    Quoted message said:

    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone

    not really necessary, without casserole dishes or browniepans...

    Quoted message said:

    sharp chef's knife

    must have. also recommend an "eversharp" serrated knife for veggies.

    Quoted message said:

    paring knife

    better to get kitchen skissors.

    Quoted message said:

    manual can opener

    a must have.

    Quoted message said:

    toaster

    not my bag of tea -- definitely not for the beginning cook.

    Quoted message said:

    strainer

    this is essential for pasta which forms a good percentage of a beginning
    cook's diet, imho.

    Quoted message said:

    lg spoon for stirring
    measuring cups
    measuring spoons

    these are necessary if you use recipes. also consider a kitchen scale.

    Quoted message said:

    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    i prefer used coffee cans.

    Quoted message said:

    That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things listed
    are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be found at a
    second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I missing
    anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    I prefer to keep "beginning cooks" stuff to an absolute minimum. Space is
    at a premium in an apt. to begin with.

    lena

  6. "Lena B Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    frying pan

    often not usable in apartment kitchens.

    Are you on drugs? What would you cook scrambled eggs in? A paper cup in the
    microwave?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cookie sheet

    both useful, but not necessary unless you like sweets.

    Are you on drugs? What if someone wants to bake french fries, some fish,
    etc?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone

    not really necessary, without casserole dishes or browniepans...

    Are you on drugs? How would someone remove their baked fish from the cookie
    sheet?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    paring knife

    better to get kitchen skissors.

    Are you on drugs? Peel an apple or chop garlic with scissors?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    manual can opener

    a must have.

    Correct. A moment of lucidity.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    toaster

    not my bag of tea -- definitely not for the beginning cook.

    Now I know you're on drugs. A beginning cook can't handle a toaster? Do your
    sitters know you've escaped your room and reached the keyboard again?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lg spoon for stirring
    measuring cups
    measuring spoons

    these are necessary if you use recipes. also consider a kitchen scale.

    You're drinking this early in the morning??? A large spoon for stirring is
    only needed if you "use recipes"?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    i prefer used coffee cans.

    That's stupid. You don't store wet ingredients in metallic containers.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things
    listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be
    found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I
    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    I prefer to keep "beginning cooks" stuff to an absolute minimum. Space is
    at a premium in an apt. to begin with.

    You're stupid. Where is it written that beginning cooks are more likely to
    live in apartments?

  7. "~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone

    Preferably metal. Plastic and silicone are not a good idea for new cooks.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    ~patches~ said:

    I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of
    kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.

    small saucepan
    large saucepan with lid
    frying pan
    roasting pan - size based on household size
    muffin tin
    cookie sheet
    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone
    sharp chef's knife
    paring knife
    manual can opener
    toaster
    strainer
    lg spoon for stirring
    measuring cups
    measuring spoons
    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things
    listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be
    found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I
    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    Soup Ladle
    Veggie peeler
    Cork screw
    Splatter lid for pans
    Stock Pot (but the sauce pan will work for small amounts in a pinch)

    For most stuff I cook, I'd leave out the measuring cups and spoons as
    essential unless you are planning on baking. :-)

    To me, a pressure cooker has become essential for saving electricity but
    is not essential.

    If we are talking bare bones for the poor, the muffin tin can also be
    tossed out. Biscuits can be made on a cookie sheet or a CI skillet can
    be put in the oven and used for that.

    A good CI skillet can also substitute for a roasting pan so you can toss
    that too.

    The stirring spoon can be used in place of a ladel so I'll exempt that.

    What would you consider bare bones essentials for someone that has a
    limited amount of money?

    CI skillet
    one good spatula
    one good medium sized saucepan with lid
    Two good knives. One cutting and one paring
    Can opener
    Veggie peeler
    Strainer
    Serving/stirring spoon

    I think I could get by on that. :-)

    Those are the tools I use the most frequently.
    --
    Peace, Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  9. Doug Kanter said:

    "Lena B Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    frying pan

    often not usable in apartment kitchens.

    Are you on drugs? What would you cook scrambled eggs in? A paper cup in the
    microwave?

    As horrifying as it seems now, I remember cooking scrambled eggs in the
    microwave growing up, albiet in small corningware dishes rather than
    paper cups. (And yes, I'm dating myself on the young side there. 🙂

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cookie sheet

    both useful, but not necessary unless you like sweets.

    Are you on drugs? What if someone wants to bake french fries, some fish,
    etc?

    I agree. Again, growing up, baked french fries and chicken nuggets
    were pretty much the standard "I don't feel like cooking" dinner
    option. The utility of a cookie sheet goes way, way beyond sweets.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone

    not really necessary, without casserole dishes or browniepans...

    Are you on drugs? How would someone remove their baked fish from the cookie
    sheet?

    As far as I'm concerned, spatulas are almost a necessity if you're
    going to do any sort of baking, even if you're talking baking out of a
    box like any novice baker could manage. Plus, as you note, they retain
    their utility in the cooking versus baking field.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    paring knife

    better to get kitchen skissors.

    Are you on drugs? Peel an apple or chop garlic with scissors?

    Honestly, I think a vegetable peeler would probably be a better option
    here. Using a paring knife to peel veggies is more hassle than it's
    worth. As far as garlic goes, I've always used my chef's knife. I
    know the standard wisdom is that a chef's knife and a paring knife are
    the two knifes everyone needs to start off with, but for whatever
    reason, I really don't find myself using my paring knife all that
    often. YMMV, I suppose.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    manual can opener

    a must have.

    Correct. A moment of lucidity.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    toaster

    not my bag of tea -- definitely not for the beginning cook.

    Now I know you're on drugs. A beginning cook can't handle a toaster? Do your
    sitters know you've escaped your room and reached the keyboard again?

    A bit harsh, perhaps, but it strikes me as a kitchen essential too. I
    mean, things like toast, bagles or frozen waffles are well within the
    abilities of a beginning cook. 😉

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lg spoon for stirring
    measuring cups
    measuring spoons

    these are necessary if you use recipes. also consider a kitchen scale.

    You're drinking this early in the morning??? A large spoon for stirring is
    only needed if you "use recipes"?

    I'm having a bit of a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea of not
    really needing spatulas but wanting to consider a kitchen scale.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    i prefer used coffee cans.

    That's stupid. You don't store wet ingredients in metallic containers.

    Yours is better, and in fact economical, but realistically, I think
    most people are going to wind up using generic tupperware type dishes
    anyways. I know, we're trying to keep the costs down here, but most
    people I've known would go ahead and make the arguably unnecessary
    expense anyways. I know I certainly did.

    --
    Ernest

  10. "ewdotson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > paring knife

    better to get kitchen skissors.

    Are you on drugs? Peel an apple or chop garlic with scissors?

    Honestly, I think a vegetable peeler would probably be a better option
    here. Using a paring knife to peel veggies is more hassle than it's
    worth. As far as garlic goes, I've always used my chef's knife. I
    know the standard wisdom is that a chef's knife and a paring knife are
    the two knifes everyone needs to start off with, but for whatever
    reason, I really don't find myself using my paring knife all that
    often. YMMV, I suppose.

    At least your idea is within the realm of sanity. She's suggesting scissors.
    Right.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Now I know you're on drugs. A beginning cook can't handle a toaster? Do
    your
    sitters know you've escaped your room and reached the keyboard again?

    A bit harsh, perhaps, but it strikes me as a kitchen essential too. I
    mean, things like toast, bagles or frozen waffles are well within the
    abilities of a beginning cook. 😉

    Not harsh. There's always the danger that someone as stupid as Lena will
    read her suggestions, use the wrong tool, and hurt themselves. It's not my
    mission in life to protect the stupid from one another, but sometimes I'm in
    a charitable mood.

  11. ~patches~ said:


    I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of
    kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.

    small saucepan
    large saucepan with lid
    frying pan
    roasting pan - size based on household size
    muffin tin
    cookie sheet
    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone
    sharp chef's knife
    paring knife
    manual can opener
    toaster
    strainer
    lg spoon for stirring
    measuring cups
    measuring spoons
    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things
    listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be
    found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I
    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    I'm not sure that a toaster is required. I have a lot more kitchen
    equipment than that list and I still don't have a toaster. I think if it
    was required I would have picked one up by now.

    What does appear to be missing is a set of mixing bowls. A ladle or two
    can be pretty useful as well. Other than that it seems to cover the
    basics.

    Pete C.

  12. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    ~patches~ said:

    I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of
    kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.

    small saucepan
    large saucepan with lid
    frying pan
    roasting pan - size based on household size
    muffin tin
    cookie sheet
    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone
    sharp chef's knife
    paring knife
    manual can opener
    toaster
    strainer
    lg spoon for stirring
    measuring cups
    measuring spoons
    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things
    listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be
    found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I
    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    Soup Ladle
    Veggie peeler
    Cork screw
    Splatter lid for pans
    Stock Pot (but the sauce pan will work for small amounts in a pinch)

    For most stuff I cook, I'd leave out the measuring cups and spoons as
    essential unless you are planning on baking. :-)

    To me, a pressure cooker has become essential for saving electricity but
    is not essential.

    This is a me too! I love my pressure cookers and wonder how I ever did
    without the pressure canner. I'm sold on them. Unfortunately they are
    are higher ticket item and would likely tend to scare a lot of new cookers.

    Quoted message said:


    If we are talking bare bones for the poor, the muffin tin can also be
    tossed out. Biscuits can be made on a cookie sheet or a CI skillet can
    be put in the oven and used for that.

    The reason for the muffin tin - I make muffins a lot more than biscuits
    and quite often we have muffins for breakfast. Even if not made from
    scratch, muffin mix is relatively cheap and certainly a lot cheaper than
    the muffins sold in the doughnut shops. For the price of one muffin
    there, someone stretching their food dollars could make 6 or more.

    Quoted message said:


    A good CI skillet can also substitute for a roasting pan so you can toss
    that too.

    The stirring spoon can be used in place of a ladel so I'll exempt that.

    What would you consider bare bones essentials for someone that has a
    limited amount of money?

    CI skillet
    one good spatula
    one good medium sized saucepan with lid
    Two good knives. One cutting and one paring
    Can opener
    Veggie peeler
    Strainer
    Serving/stirring spoon

    I'd eliminate the veggie peeler as a paring knife does the same thing.
    You almost need 2 spatulas - lg & sm - since the larger ones won't fit
    into small jars. CI kind of iffy for a new cook unless they have some
    experience with. The strainer could possibly be eliminated if you use
    the lid of the pot to drain things like boiled potatoes or pasta.

    Quoted message said:


    I think I could get by on that. :-)

    Those are the tools I use the most frequently.

    The tools I use most frequently really differ from yours but this list
    would get someone started.

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    ewdotson said:
    Quoted message said:

    That's stupid. You don't store wet ingredients in metallic containers.

    Yours is better, and in fact economical, but realistically, I think
    most people are going to wind up using generic tupperware type dishes
    anyways. I know, we're trying to keep the costs down here, but most
    people I've known would go ahead and make the arguably unnecessary
    expense anyways. I know I certainly did.

    I'm seriously liking those disposable plastic storage containers made by
    ziplock and glad. ;-)

    Great thread Patches!
    --
    Peace, Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  14. notbob said:
    ~patches~ said:

    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    Definitely one item, a good mixing bowel(s). Optional, a good veggie
    peeler. Yes, I realize a paring knife will do, but a peeler is so
    much faster and less wasteful. One last thing, a pitcher of
    some kind for drinks, alcoholic and non. Oh yeah!... some kinda
    coffee brewer.

    nb

    Good point. In a pinch a new cook could use any larger bowl or
    container but mixing bowels would be nice. I keep forgetting about a
    pitcher too. Oh I have to tell you about my mixing bowl acquistion
    since you brought that up. For years I've used ss mixing bowls bought
    used and collected over time. I still use them but awhile ago I came
    across what I suspected was Fiestaware nesting mixing bowls for $3 so I
    bought them. The largest has a handle and all have pouring spouts.
    They turned out not to be original Fiestaware but I like them anyway.
    Really neat looking! I picked up an original Fiestaware platter a
    couple of weeks ago at an auction so the mixing bowls are sitting on
    that. I'm such a sucker for that type of thing as well as depression
    glass. All gets used so I guess it's ok 🙂

  15. small saucepan not too small!
    large saucepan with lid BIG for pasta
    frying pan yes, and cast iron best to start
    roasting pan - size based on household size Hmmm, maybe
    muffin tin limited usefulness IMO
    cookie sheet yes, very useful even if you don't ever make cookies
    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone I'd say 1 silicone and
    one like a pancake turner of metal
    sharp chef's knife yes, and a way to keep it sharp
    paring knife sure
    but also a veg peeler
    manual can opener yup
    toaster don't have one myself and haven't for years. I make toast in
    a cast iron skillet, dry
    strainer big enough for pasta
    lg spoon for stirring yep
    measuring cups yep, even pancake mix needs this
    measuring spoons yep, see above
    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free) Depends
    surely on what one stores? I am big on ziplock bags

    I think also a thermometer, a coffee making thing of some type, and if
    not a teakettle, then an extra smallish pot so you can make something
    to drink while cooking your veg, or boil water to add to something. I
    also encourahe people not to buy non-stick until they can afford decent
    ones, because they go bad so fast it's a waste of money. Oh, and a
    cutting board of some kind to protect your knives!
    I shouldn't like to have to, but I think I could live with just this.

  16. Doug Kanter said:

    "Lena B Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    frying pan

    often not usable in apartment kitchens.

    Are you on drugs? What would you cook scrambled eggs in? A paper cup in the
    microwave?

    You're assuming I cook eggs. And when they said frying pan, I'm thinking
    of something large, and flat and bigger than a wok. I'd probably suggest
    scrambling the eggs in a wok.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cookie sheet

    both useful, but not necessary unless you like sweets.

    Are you on drugs? What if someone wants to bake french fries, some fish,
    etc?

    again -- assuming oven. If we get the assumption of an oven, I'd say get
    a cake pan and use it for everything (works for most things except
    probably cookies).

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone

    not really necessary, without casserole dishes or browniepans...

    Are you on drugs? How would someone remove their baked fish from the cookie
    sheet?

    spoon, maybe? Knife, maybe? I don't cook fish much. But it's not
    something _necessary_ for a lot of basic cooking.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    paring knife

    better to get kitchen skissors.

    Are you on drugs? Peel an apple or chop garlic with scissors?

    for most of what i end up using a paring knife for, kitchen skissors work
    better. (certainly when i'm cutting up dried chilis...) And yeah, you
    could do garlic with scissors, if it would take a bit longer. You've got
    me on apples -- but i'd rather use a peeler.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    toaster

    not my bag of tea -- definitely not for the beginning cook.

    Now I know you're on drugs. A beginning cook can't handle a toaster? Do your
    sitters know you've escaped your room and reached the keyboard again?

    not can't handle. not needed. why give someone soemthing that's just
    going to sit around not being used? it's like giving newbies a blender.
    for a lot of people it becomes a waste of space.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lg spoon for stirring
    measuring cups
    measuring spoons

    these are necessary if you use recipes. also consider a kitchen scale.

    You're drinking this early in the morning??? A large spoon for stirring is
    only needed if you "use recipes"?

    I covered stirring spoon above. didn't figure i needed to mention it
    again.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    i prefer used coffee cans.

    That's stupid. You don't store wet ingredients in metallic containers.

    what wet ingredients don't you store in their store-bought containers?
    you're right, i'd never recommend that for wet ingredients. it's just
    that i don't store wet ingredients out of their "proper" containers.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things
    listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be
    found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I
    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    I prefer to keep "beginning cooks" stuff to an absolute minimum. Space is
    at a premium in an apt. to begin with.

    You're stupid. Where is it written that beginning cooks are more likely to
    live in apartments?

    most people i know live in apartments. most young people, who might be
    interested in cooking, live in apartments. When you ask me to start
    buying stuff for a beginning cook, i tend to assume they aren't your
    12=year old. Does that make sense?

    Lena

  17. notbob said:

    On 2006-03-21, ~patches~ <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    Quoted message said:

    Definitely one item, a good mixing bowel(s).

    Believe it or not, Dr Freud, this is not the first time I've seen this
    particular typo.

    Stacia

  18. "~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of
    kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.

    small saucepan


    ....

    Quoted message said:

    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things
    listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be
    found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I
    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    Things I've had since first starting out that proved very useful are:
    - large two tined fork
    - large slotted spoon

    These were often packaged in a set with a metal spatula and a large spoon,
    which otherwise appear or your list or have been suggested. I guess the
    spoons and spatulas could be metal or plastic, but the fork is always metal,
    isn't it.

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  19. Doug Kanter said:

    "ewdotson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> paring knife
    >
    > better to get kitchen skissors.

    Are you on drugs? Peel an apple or chop garlic with scissors?

    Honestly, I think a vegetable peeler would probably be a better option
    here. Using a paring knife to peel veggies is more hassle than it's
    worth. As far as garlic goes, I've always used my chef's knife. I
    know the standard wisdom is that a chef's knife and a paring knife are
    the two knifes everyone needs to start off with, but for whatever
    reason, I really don't find myself using my paring knife all that
    often. YMMV, I suppose.

    At least your idea is within the realm of sanity. She's suggesting scissors.
    Right.

    What do you use your paring knife for?

    The last three uses or so for mine were -- opening a package of corned
    beef, opening th3e spicesn inside the corned beef, and opening a bag of
    dried potato flakes.

    for me, scissors work better.

    Lena

  20. ~patches~ said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    ~patches~ said:

    I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of
    kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.

    small saucepan
    large saucepan with lid
    frying pan
    roasting pan - size based on household size
    muffin tin
    cookie sheet
    spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone
    sharp chef's knife
    paring knife
    manual can opener
    toaster
    strainer
    lg spoon for stirring
    measuring cups
    measuring spoons
    storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)

    That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things
    listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be
    found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I
    missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?

    Soup Ladle
    Veggie peeler
    Cork screw
    Splatter lid for pans
    Stock Pot (but the sauce pan will work for small amounts in a pinch)

    For most stuff I cook, I'd leave out the measuring cups and spoons as
    essential unless you are planning on baking. :-)

    To me, a pressure cooker has become essential for saving electricity but
    is not essential.

    This is a me too! I love my pressure cookers and wonder how I ever did
    without the pressure canner. I'm sold on them. Unfortunately they are are
    higher ticket item and would likely tend to scare a lot of new cookers.

    Quoted message said:


    If we are talking bare bones for the poor, the muffin tin can also be
    tossed out. Biscuits can be made on a cookie sheet or a CI skillet can be
    put in the oven and used for that.

    The reason for the muffin tin - I make muffins a lot more than biscuits and
    quite often we have muffins for breakfast. Even if not made from scratch,
    muffin mix is relatively cheap and certainly a lot cheaper than the muffins
    sold in the doughnut shops. For the price of one muffin there, someone
    stretching their food dollars could make 6 or more.

    Quoted message said:


    A good CI skillet can also substitute for a roasting pan so you can toss
    that too.

    The stirring spoon can be used in place of a ladel so I'll exempt that.

    What would you consider bare bones essentials for someone that has a
    limited amount of money?

    CI skillet
    one good spatula
    one good medium sized saucepan with lid
    Two good knives. One cutting and one paring
    Can opener
    Veggie peeler
    Strainer
    Serving/stirring spoon

    I'd eliminate the veggie peeler as a paring knife does the same thing. You
    almost need 2 spatulas - lg & sm - since the larger ones won't fit into small
    jars. CI kind of iffy for a new cook unless they have some experience with.
    The strainer could possibly be eliminated if you use the lid of the pot to
    drain things like boiled potatoes or pasta.

    why are you fitting spatulas into jars? and using the lid of the pot is
    _another_ new thing for me!

    Lena

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