"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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My son had better ideas about kitchen tools than you do when he was 6.
And your son had a silver spoon in his mouth...
No, dear. Some people will always look at the job to be done and choose the wrong tool. And, some do things right. Doesn't matter, though. Lena doesn't really do the things she says she does. She's playing a game here.
Doug, they let Lena "out" every now and again... must be one of those days. Take no notice 😉
"Lena B Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"Lena B Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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No, I'm not saying that I don't cook pancakes. But i wouldn't miss them if I didn't have a skillet. I get better frozen pancakes anyway.
OK - that's it. Now we have absolute, indisputable proof that you are a fool. There is no such thing as decent frozen pancakes. This discussion is over.
but.... but.... I like my minipan!
I'm no good at making pancakes. Maybe i'd enjoy them if they weren't such a flop. Not what i'd get for a beginning cook -- as i haven't mastered it myself!
Lena
My son is now 16. When he was 14, he began making pancakes. Within a week, he was making them perfectly every single time, with no exceptions, regardless of the recipe or mix he used. You are an idiot.
"cathyxyz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>, "Doug Kanter" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> My son had better ideas about kitchen tools than you do when he was 6. And your son had a silver spoon in his mouth...
No, dear. Some people will always look at the job to be done and choose the wrong tool. And, some do things right. Doesn't matter, though. Lena doesn't really do the things she says she does. She's playing a game here.
Doug, they let Lena "out" every now and again... must be one of those days. Take no notice 😉
Cheers Cathy(xyz)
Thanks. I knew it wasn't just me noticing that the cage had been left open.
"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>, "Doug Kanter" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> My son had better ideas about kitchen tools than you do when he was 6.
And your son had a silver spoon in his mouth...
No, dear. Some people will always look at the job to be done and choose the wrong tool. And, some do things right. Doesn't matter, though. Lena doesn't really do the things she says she does. She's playing a game here.
So are you. ;-)
I'd choose a small toaster oven over a toaster any day as I can use it for more things.
Yeah, and because they tempt you to use them for more foods, they get filthy and they're impossible to clean, with all the stupid sharp edges inside.
I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.
small saucepan large saucepan with lid frying pan roasting pan - size based on household size muffin tin cookie sheet spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone sharp chef's knife paring knife manual can opener toaster strainer lg spoon for stirring measuring cups measuring spoons storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)
That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?
I would add a grater, otherwise not a bad list.... and maybe a kettle to boil water for tea etc. - or is that not what you were thinking about?
why are you fitting spatulas into jars? and using the lid of the pot is _another_ new thing for me!
I think we have some terminology problems here!
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Then there's the spatula term. To me, it's that rubbery thing one uses in baking to fold ingredients or scrap down the side of the bowl. One would also use it to get things out of jars. That other thing I think I just call a flipper or turner, like for flipping pancakes or burgers.
Looks that way, doesn't it? In my household, we'd differentiate the various types of spatulas by adding their material onto the name. For example, we'd ask to be passed a rubber [silicone] spatula if we were scraping the stuff out of a jar. Alternately, we might ask to be passed the metal spatula if we needed to flip something. I have a hard time imagining not having at least one of each in my kitchen. Of course, I could probably get by using a spoon or knife (depending on the application) in lieu of a rubber spatula, but I don't know that I'd want to.
"cathyxyz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.
small saucepan large saucepan with lid frying pan roasting pan - size based on household size muffin tin cookie sheet spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone sharp chef's knife paring knife manual can opener toaster strainer lg spoon for stirring measuring cups measuring spoons storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)
That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?
I would add a grater, otherwise not a bad list.... and maybe a kettle to boil water for tea etc. - or is that not what you were thinking about?
Cheers Cathy(xyz)
Kettle? Nah. You can boil water in a styrofoam cup. -Lena Katz
You forgot the 9mm Berretta to keep the moochers out of your canning :-) Lefty -- Life is for learning
"~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.
small saucepan large saucepan with lid frying pan roasting pan - size based on household size muffin tin cookie sheet spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone sharp chef's knife paring knife manual can opener toaster strainer lg spoon for stirring measuring cups measuring spoons storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)
That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?
Being a frugal cook I want every drop out of my jars. Since I do a lot of home canning and some of that is sauces canned in small jars, a small spatula is a must.
I also try to get every drop out of jars, cans, etc. What I do is turn jars with the lids on upside down for a few minutes to get all the liquid to run to the bottom. If it's a can with the lid removed, I do the same thing but in a bowl. Unfortunately I've never found the right shape spatula or spoon to get everything out of a jar otherwise.
Stacia
Mine is likelier easier Stacia as most of my jars are mason jars although the wide mouthed ones are even easier. My biggest thing is to put just a little water in a swish it around to get those last bits.
"cathyxyz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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~patches~ said:
I have a lot more than the following list but I thought a basic list of kitchen equipment for new cooks might be helpful.
small saucepan large saucepan with lid frying pan roasting pan - size based on household size muffin tin cookie sheet spatulas - lg & small, preferrably silicone sharp chef's knife paring knife manual can opener toaster strainer lg spoon for stirring measuring cups measuring spoons storage containers (recycled food jars with lids are free)
That should get most new cooks cooking and I know a lot of the things listed are available at our local dollar store. Others could likely be found at a second hand store so very little money would be needed. Am I missing anything? Anyone else what to add to the list?
I would add a grater, otherwise not a bad list.... and maybe a kettle to boil water for tea etc. - or is that not what you were thinking about?
Cheers Cathy(xyz)
Kettle? Nah. You can boil water in a styrofoam cup. -Lena Katz
Invisible garlic. Can't be done with scissors or a paring knife. Back to your room before the orderly notices you've gone missing.
Geez! What has gotten into you today? You are wearing a Sheldon disguise?
He was getting on my nerves so I did that little click of a button thing 😉 My personal experience has been that the garlic press gets more flavour followed by smashing the garlic head on the chopping block followed by simply chopping the garlic. I think it depends on what you are using the garlic for.
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Invisible garlic. Can't be done with scissors or a paring knife. Back to your room before the orderly notices you've gone missing.
Geez! What has gotten into you today? You are wearing a Sheldon disguise?
He was getting on my nerves so I did that little click of a button thing 😉 My personal experience has been that the garlic press gets more flavour followed by smashing the garlic head on the chopping block followed by simply chopping the garlic. I think it depends on what you are using the garlic for.
Have you seen the movie "Goodfellas"? The guy using a razor blade to cut garlic insanely thin? That's on its way to being invisible garlic.
"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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>All normal people like toast. If you have an electric oven, it'll take >longer for the broiler to warm up than it would for the toaster to do its >job.
Except that a toaster is only good for ONE thing!
When I was in college, I did not own a toaster but did own a toaster oven... It was good for a much wider range of foods.
And burned less power than the stove/oven.
Versatility rulz when you are living on a shoestring.
Hell, I even did my term papers on an old electric typewriter.
I had (and still have) a non-electric typewriter. So what?
You have a computer now... Are you nuts enough to still use a typewriter??????
Why not, he's still sprouting a few archane ideals regarding cooking.
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I still have the typewriter I used in college but only for sentimental reasons. It lives out in the storage shed. ;-)
When I went back to school, I used an electric typewriter. I thought that was good enough since I had been taught Pitman shorthand as well as typing. The end of my first semester we bought our first computer. Boy that typing has come in handy. It been upwardly mobile in terms of technology since then.
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Want to buy it? It's a "Brother" and still works great.
"~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
> Invisible garlic. Can't be done with scissors or a paring knife. Back to > your room before the orderly notices you've gone missing. >
Geez! What has gotten into you today? You are wearing a Sheldon disguise?
He was getting on my nerves so I did that little click of a button thing 😉 My personal experience has been that the garlic press gets more flavour followed by smashing the garlic head on the chopping block followed by simply chopping the garlic. I think it depends on what you are using the garlic for.
Have you seen the movie "Goodfellas"? The guy using a razor blade to cut garlic insanely thin? That's on its way to being invisible garlic.
here's the transcript of what we were talking about:
1. I say i'd rather have kitchen scissors than paring knife 2. You say "are you crazy" followed by some thigns that I agreed with and others I did not. 3. I ask what you do with paring knife that you don't do with scissors. 4. You say invisible garlic -- which you follow by saying can't be done with either.
If I wanted to make invisible garlic, I'd use my serrated chef's knife. which, if you'll recall, i mnetioned in the original post. two chefs knives, no paring knife.
"Lena B Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>> Invisible garlic. Can't be done with scissors or a paring knife. Back >> to >> your room before the orderly notices you've gone missing. >> > > > Geez! What has gotten into you today? > You are wearing a Sheldon disguise?
He was getting on my nerves so I did that little click of a button thing 😉 My personal experience has been that the garlic press gets more flavour followed by smashing the garlic head on the chopping block followed by simply chopping the garlic. I think it depends on what you are using the garlic for.
Have you seen the movie "Goodfellas"? The guy using a razor blade to cut garlic insanely thin? That's on its way to being invisible garlic.
here's the transcript of what we were talking about:
1. I say i'd rather have kitchen scissors than paring knife 2. You say "are you crazy" followed by some thigns that I agreed with and others I did not. 3. I ask what you do with paring knife that you don't do with scissors. 4. You say invisible garlic -- which you follow by saying can't be done with either.
I did not say it could not be done with either tool. I said it could not be done with scissors. If you believe otherwise, please point to the precise words you misunderstood.
"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>, "Doug Kanter" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>My son had better ideas about kitchen tools than you do when he was 6.
And your son had a silver spoon in his mouth...
No, dear. Some people will always look at the job to be done and choose the wrong tool. And, some do things right. Doesn't matter, though. Lena doesn't really do the things she says she does. She's playing a game here.
So are you. ;-)
I'd choose a small toaster oven over a toaster any day as I can use it for more things.
And IMHO a skillet of any kind is indespensable.
I see I was not wrong about DK. After writing my list I thought you know a toaster oven would be a lot more versatile. K-mart in the US has toasters as cheap as $7 but the toaster ovens are a lot more so someone starting out might not be able to afford the toaster overn. A toaster would allow them to make toaste tomato sandwiches or BLT's my favourite. It reminds me of one kid in law who grew up thinking grilled cheese sandwiches was two pieces of toasted bread with a piece of that orange plastic stuff in the middle. Honestly the mom used a toaster to make this and while we can snicker because we know better an attempt is better than no attempt. BTW kid in law has now learned there are better ways to make grilled cheese sandwiches.
I have to agree with you on the skillet even though I call it a fry pan. A beginning cook really needs one of these!
Oh I don't freeze in glass Om. Sorry if anyone got that idea. I use the ziploc containers and/or bags along with vacuuum sealer bagging material. I used generic ziplock for tomato sauce one year and the mess was unbelievable. So I buy brand name for both bags and containers.
Ah! Ok. :-)
The one drawback to the last set of generic bags I bought was there was no labeling stripe. I had to write directly on the bag and it's not staying put very well! -- Peace, Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
because i'm lazy, pointing will be done in the post...
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"~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote: > > >>> Invisible garlic. Can't be done with scissors or a paring knife.
^________pointing! "can't be done with scissors or a paring knife" certainly sounds like you meant both tools would be worthless for it.
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>>> Back >>> to >>> your room before the orderly notices you've gone missing. >>> >> >> >> Geez! What has gotten into you today? >> You are wearing a Sheldon disguise? > > He was getting on my nerves so I did that little click of a button thing > 😉 My personal experience has been that the garlic press gets more > flavour followed by smashing the garlic head on the chopping block > followed by simply chopping the garlic. I think it depends on what you > are using the garlic for.
Have you seen the movie "Goodfellas"? The guy using a razor blade to cut garlic insanely thin? That's on its way to being invisible garlic.
here's the transcript of what we were talking about:
1. I say i'd rather have kitchen scissors than paring knife 2. You say "are you crazy" followed by some thigns that I agreed with and others I did not. 3. I ask what you do with paring knife that you don't do with scissors. 4. You say invisible garlic -- which you follow by saying can't be done with either.
I did not say it could not be done with either tool. I said it could not be done with scissors. If you believe otherwise, please point to the precise words you misunderstood.
Ok, so what are you criticizing for? The thread is aimed at the MINIMAL needs. -- Peace, Om.
I don't see it that way. I interpreted it as how to equip a new cook PROPERLY, not as if the person were going backpacking or living in poverty. The presence of the words "dollar store" in the original post do not necessarily mean everything has to be cheap or pathetic.
The thread is an offshoot of the "food snob" thread. It's aimed at trying to equip the minimalist cook.
I could be wrong, but that's the impression I got.
What is the very LEAST you could get by with and still achieve decent meals with minimal effort?
If this was about all the toys I'd like to have, my list would be very long. <G> -- Peace, Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
You have a computer now... Are you nuts enough to still use a typewriter??????
If I need to bang out a one paragraph letter, I can do it in under a minute. It takes longer than that for my computer to boot up and be ready to rock.
Heh. I'm an internet junkie. My computer stays on unless the weather is bad. I can boot the word processing program in about 5 seconds, type it up and hit "print". The Laser printer takes seconds to print it.
I even use it for shopping lists.
And I can't spare the room for a typewriter. -- Peace, Om.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson
