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  1. LaoFuZhi said:
    Quoted message said:

    Well, you never know, her asking for one might mean she's thinking about
    doing it a bit more seriously, or you might find that if she can see
    what speed she does, she might start upping the speed a bit, and if she
    carries on with that, she might be bitten by the bug ;-)

    Ah! if only...... She's had the bike a little over two years; I bought it
    for her 31st and at that point she actually had to learn to ride having
    never had a bike in her life before!!.... At first I thought she was going
    to get into it; but the notion only lasted about three months. It comes out
    the cupboard occasionally when the sun's shining; And then she rushes off to
    Halfords to buy another gadget for it.... NOw and again she rides it to the
    next village.... I followed her out on it last night to test this spedo
    accompanied by out 7-Y/O daughter who was literally riding circles 'round
    her ....don't think I can book that cycling tour of Southern France _quite_
    yet ;-) though if she's getting some exercise some time that can't be a bad
    thing...

    Quoted message said:

    So don't discount it completely as a sign of good things to come ;-)

    Oh, I'm not...... Let's just say I'm a touch guarded.... It's like the
    stepper, and the wheelie thing with handles; last night she was sitting up
    in bed ready to order another daft over-priced stepper thingie from qvc or
    somewhere....

    Quoted message said:

    If you're interested, I have a cateye astrale here that I no longer use
    (was only on there for use on my turbo, rear wheel + cadence sensor
    fittings, wires, not wireless).

    The offer's appreciated... As I'm building another bike for myself I may
    come back to you on that one....

    Yeah, well don't give up on it yet.. she just needs to experience the
    enjoyment of it all enough... I got my bike three years ago, did hardly
    anything on it for the first two years, this year things have taken off
    in big ways :-)

    A lot of it was lack of confidence, and the bike not fitting all that
    well, but mostly confidence. If she's as new to cycling as that, you
    might find she's not yet relaxed enough to really enjoy it - I found
    once the good outweighed the bad times, progress happened REALLY
    quickly. While the bad was still the prevalent thing then every little
    thing that helped give me something else to think about was good -
    anything to take my mind off my legs, hands, bum, traffic, stress, etc etc.

    Doesn't matter if it only comes out the cupboard when the sun's shining,
    that's one thing that'll mean the cycling's enjoyable for her, if you
    really enjoy cycling then cycling in the rain's not so bad, but if you
    aren't at the stage of enjoying cycling for cycling's sake then it's
    bloody miserable.

    I only got my bike cos I thought it'd be luvverly to cycle sedately
    around pretty country lanes with my beloved, since he's a bit of a
    cycling nut, and I knew he'd probably go disappearing off with other
    cyclists if I didn't. I was envisoning gentle rides of up to an hour or
    so, not many miles...

    Quite how I managed to think that given he's a keen cyclist, I have no
    idea - obviously I had no comprehension of what serious cyclists get up
    to...

    I did find it quite daunting at first, once I'd realised just what it
    entailed - the distances, speeds, etc, and not being happy with the bike
    but not knowing why - all made it something I wasn't enjoying, and
    something that I rarely wanted to go do again.

    It took quite a bit of perseverance to get past that point, and I have
    to say if I didn't know the bike I had was a real cracker to ride when
    things went well, it's quite possible I'd have given up and just
    occasionally used it for tootling. That'd have been a waste of
    time/money and not done the bike justice though, and with a lot of
    encouragement I worked through that period, and am almost out the other
    side (most rides now are excellent and I get the urge to go ride if I've
    not been out on it for a week now) - but there are still situations that
    fill me with trepidation and stress me out totally - just that cos the
    rest of it's so good, I can manage to cope with them rather than utterly
    losing the plot ;-) Or, I just get off hte bike and walk them - I've
    learnt being stubborn like this in that situation where it is REALLY
    scary is the best thing to do, cos eventually it gets to the point where
    confidence is good enough that one day you do it cos you don't want the
    hassle of climbing off, and yes, it's a bit nerve-wracking, but you get
    through it, and that's the start of it not being a problem any more ;-)

    Of course, it might be that she's never going to be the sort of cyclist
    you'd like her to be, but if she's on a decent bike (ie, not twice as
    heavy as your ultra-light steed LOL), you give her advice about using
    the right gears, get her as comfy as you can on the bike, find ways for
    her to enjoy and be interested in it, then she'll do it enough to see
    improvements, and you never know, a couple of years time and you'll be
    buying her a 'serious' bike ;-)
    --

    Velvet


  2. Quoted message said:

    Yeah, well don't give up on it yet.. she just needs to experience the
    enjoyment of it all enough... I got my bike three years ago, did hardly
    anything on it for the first two years, this year things have taken off
    in big ways :-)

    A lot of it was lack of confidence, and the bike not fitting all that
    well, but mostly confidence. If she's as new to cycling as that, you
    might find she's not yet relaxed enough to really enjoy it - I found
    once the good outweighed the bad times, progress happened REALLY
    quickly. While the bad was still the prevalent thing then every little
    thing that helped give me something else to think about was good -
    anything to take my mind off my legs, hands, bum, traffic, stress, etc


    etc.

    Quoted message said:


    Doesn't matter if it only comes out the cupboard when the sun's shining,
    that's one thing that'll mean the cycling's enjoyable for her, if you
    really enjoy cycling then cycling in the rain's not so bad, but if you
    aren't at the stage of enjoying cycling for cycling's sake then it's
    bloody miserable.

    I only got my bike cos I thought it'd be luvverly to cycle sedately
    around pretty country lanes with my beloved, since he's a bit of a
    cycling nut, and I knew he'd probably go disappearing off with other
    cyclists if I didn't. I was envisoning gentle rides of up to an hour or
    so, not many miles...

    Quite how I managed to think that given he's a keen cyclist, I have no
    idea - obviously I had no comprehension of what serious cyclists get up
    to...

    I did find it quite daunting at first, once I'd realised just what it
    entailed - the distances, speeds, etc, and not being happy with the bike
    but not knowing why - all made it something I wasn't enjoying, and
    something that I rarely wanted to go do again.

    It took quite a bit of perseverance to get past that point, and I have
    to say if I didn't know the bike I had was a real cracker to ride when
    things went well, it's quite possible I'd have given up and just
    occasionally used it for tootling. That'd have been a waste of
    time/money and not done the bike justice though, and with a lot of
    encouragement I worked through that period, and am almost out the other
    side (most rides now are excellent and I get the urge to go ride if I've
    not been out on it for a week now) - but there are still situations that
    fill me with trepidation and stress me out totally - just that cos the
    rest of it's so good, I can manage to cope with them rather than utterly
    losing the plot ;-) Or, I just get off hte bike and walk them - I've
    learnt being stubborn like this in that situation where it is REALLY
    scary is the best thing to do, cos eventually it gets to the point where
    confidence is good enough that one day you do it cos you don't want the
    hassle of climbing off, and yes, it's a bit nerve-wracking, but you get
    through it, and that's the start of it not being a problem any more ;-)

    Of course, it might be that she's never going to be the sort of cyclist
    you'd like her to be, but if she's on a decent bike (ie, not twice as
    heavy as your ultra-light steed LOL), you give her advice about using
    the right gears, get her as comfy as you can on the bike, find ways for
    her to enjoy and be interested in it, then she'll do it enough to see
    improvements, and you never know, a couple of years time and you'll be
    buying her a 'serious' bike ;-)
    --

    Velvet

    Thank for that Velvet.... I'm glad you allowed us to enjoy a little of your
    own perspective on the sport, which is really quite inspiring, I'm glad too
    that you're enjoying yourself; which after all is what it's all about...

    Whether herself becomes the kind of cyclist I'd like is neither here nor
    there (even if I had an opinion as to what that might be). So long as she's
    safe, enjoying it and doing herself some good I'm happy enough. I think I've
    done resonably well sorting the bike out for her and as far as I know she's
    happy enough with it. Like myself she's wanting to lose weight; but she
    (unlike me) doesn't seem to want to adopt a system for doing it.... Odd
    flurrys of pedalling around for a few days intersperced with boughts of
    scary starvation dieting... I've told her it's the wrong way to go about
    it; I have reams of information on the subject and am only too glad to
    provide whatever help she wants... BUT! She's her own person, doesn't
    particularly listen to me..... I'm not the fat-police and it's up too her
    to make her own mind up how she wants to go about things..... Right now
    she wants a spedo; so she gets a spedo... <ggg> When she wants to go for a
    decent run we'll go for one...

    (ie, not twice as heavy as your ultra-light steed LOL)

    errr..ummm, my bike weighs 70lb! It's a big heavy steel framed dual
    suspension MTB loaded with all sorts of kit; I even carry weights in the
    saddlebag to get the weight UP! Twice that would REALLY put her off ;-)

    I once did make the mistake of encouraging my G/F to take up 'serious'
    cycling. As a youngster I had this notion for touring Southern France (still
    do!) on a bike.... And my fiance' seemed quite keen on the idea. Thing is
    I'm 6', quite 'leggy', fairly strong ..and at that time was a sponsored
    junior rider for a local manufacturer's team..... My beloved was a rather
    lovely 4'11" and very very slightly built.... NOt a big lass at all! <g>
    First problem I had was getting a bike to fit her that wasn't meant for a
    little girl to ride along the pavement.... Got the guys at the factory to
    make her up a little frame with the geometry altered to take 26" wheels,
    proper deraillier gears etc.... Very nice it was too... Trouble was she
    simply wasn't really strong enough to get the damn thing moving at any sort
    of road speed....

    ............We had a fortnight in a caravan at Paignton instead.... <ggg>

  3. in message <[email hidden]>, LaoFuZhi
    ('the.real.address [email hidden]

    thing.not.too.hard.to.work.out') said:

    errr..ummm, my bike weighs  70lb!   It's a big heavy steel framed dual
    suspension MTB loaded with all sorts of kit;

    What??! That's just twelve pounds lighter than all three full suspension
    bikes in this household put together! Either you're wrong, or you're
    completely potty. Get a decent one; you'll have far more fun and get
    more exercise.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    Just as defying the law of gravity through building aircraft
    requires
    careful design and a lot of effort, so too does defying laws of
    economics. It seems to be a deeply ingrained aspect of humanity to
    forever strive to improve things, so unquestioning acceptance of a
    free market system seems to me to be unnatural. ;; Charles Bryant


  4. Quoted message said:

    What??! That's just twelve pounds lighter than all three full suspension
    bikes in this household put together! Either you're wrong, or you're
    completely potty. Get a decent one; you'll have far more fun and get
    more exercise.

    I'm completely potty! :-)

    The terrain 'round here is hilly-ish. (bottom of the Pentlands). My daily
    run is a wee bit of a climb and my main aim in doing it is to control my
    weight. SO, extra weight, extra effort... less blubber....

    Seems to work too!

  5. LaoFuZhi said:

    The terrain 'round here is hilly-ish. (bottom of the Pentlands). My daily
    run is a wee bit of a climb and my main aim in doing it is to control my
    weight. SO, extra weight, extra effort... less blubber....

    Why not just go faster and further in the same time on a nice bike? If
    you really want to do loads get a freight bike, which can be handy as
    well as exercise. You get a pretty good workout with a couple of bags
    of coal or a trolley load of heavy shopping. I use a Burrows 8 Freight
    which is pretty maneuverable and zippy for a capable freighter, and
    it'll take 50 Kg in the back on a regular basis with no great problem.
    Or get a good cargo trailer for a similar effect at a lower price and
    not hugely less utility.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  6. LaoFuZhi said:
    Quoted message said:

    What??! That's just twelve pounds lighter than all three full suspension
    bikes in this household put together! Either you're wrong, or you're
    completely potty. Get a decent one; you'll have far more fun and get
    more exercise.

    I'm completely potty! :-)

    The terrain 'round here is hilly-ish. (bottom of the Pentlands). My daily
    run is a wee bit of a climb and my main aim in doing it is to control my
    weight. SO, extra weight, extra effort... less blubber....

    .... and legs like tree-trunks?

    Quoted message said:


    Seems to work too!

    --

    Velvet


  7. Quoted message said:

    Why not just go faster and further in the same time on a nice bike?

    I ride all year, and the heavy bike is realtively tough, it get's thrown in
    the cupboard with hardly a thought and rarely complains... I'd ruin a
    lighter\better bike with that sort of treatment. And when the weather's
    harsh motivation can be a problem; can't be bothered going too far from the
    fire....

    .... But, just between you and me; I do intend to get something more
    conventional... It's just that this summer's weather has rather put a damper
    on my dreams of long summer days out on the hills....

    Quoted message said:

    you really want to do loads get a freight bike, which can be handy as
    well as exercise. You get a pretty good workout with a couple of bags
    of coal or a trolley load of heavy shopping. I use a Burrows 8 Freight
    which is pretty maneuverable and zippy for a capable freighter, and
    it'll take 50 Kg in the back on a regular basis with no great problem.

    Sounds good. But my work regime is such that I can spare about an hour to
    get some exercise if I'm working from home. If I need to get shopping it's
    the wife, kid, volvo routine once a month... I buy in bulk to save
    packaging, time and money.. Perishables come from the village shop...

    I also have storage problems and one of the things that's stopped me getting
    a nice wee roadster is where the heck I'd put it!


  8. Quoted message said:

    ... and legs like tree-trunks?

    Errr yes.... <g>

  9. LaoFuZhi said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why not just go faster and further in the same time on a nice bike?

    I ride all year, and the heavy bike is realtively tough, it get's thrown in
    the cupboard with hardly a thought and rarely complains... I'd ruin a
    lighter\better bike with that sort of treatment. And when the weather's
    harsh motivation can be a problem; can't be bothered going too far from the
    fire....

    .... But, just between you and me; I do intend to get something more
    conventional... It's just that this summer's weather has rather put a damper
    on my dreams of long summer days out on the hills....

    Quoted message said:

    you really want to do loads get a freight bike, which can be handy as
    well as exercise. You get a pretty good workout with a couple of bags
    of coal or a trolley load of heavy shopping. I use a Burrows 8 Freight
    which is pretty maneuverable and zippy for a capable freighter, and
    it'll take 50 Kg in the back on a regular basis with no great problem.

    Sounds good. But my work regime is such that I can spare about an hour to
    get some exercise if I'm working from home. If I need to get shopping it's
    the wife, kid, volvo routine once a month... I buy in bulk to save
    packaging, time and money.. Perishables come from the village shop...

    I also have storage problems and one of the things that's stopped me getting
    a nice wee roadster is where the heck I'd put it!

    You can always find room for a bike, specially a nice slim light road
    bike ;-) Mine lives in the bedroom, by the end of the sofa, or in the
    hall, depending on how long it's been since it was out on the tarmac,
    and when the next tarmac outing is scheduled to be ;-)

    --

    Velvet


  10. Quoted message said:

    You can always find room for a bike, specially a nice slim light road
    bike ;-) Mine lives in the bedroom, by the end of the sofa, or in the
    hall, depending on how long it's been since it was out on the tarmac,
    and when the next tarmac outing is scheduled to be ;-)

    Mine sat in the hall for quite a whiile but it was even begining to annoy
    me......

    Pokey wee flat; kid; dog; cat; wife; loadsa work gear etc etc etc etc..... I
    need a bigger house!

  11. LaoFuZhi said:
    Quoted message said:

    You can always find room for a bike, specially a nice slim light road
    bike ;-) Mine lives in the bedroom, by the end of the sofa, or in the
    hall, depending on how long it's been since it was out on the tarmac,
    and when the next tarmac outing is scheduled to be ;-)

    Mine sat in the hall for quite a whiile but it was even begining to annoy
    me......

    Pokey wee flat; kid; dog; cat; wife; loadsa work gear etc etc etc etc..... I
    need a bigger house!

    If you're not up in the attic.... install a couple of pulleys, hoist it
    up to a ceiling ;-) Make sure they're in joists, of course, cos I doubt
    even the ultralight road bikes are light enough for just ceiling plaster
    to take their weight :-)

    --

    Velvet


  12. Quoted message said:

    If you're not up in the attic.... install a couple of pulleys, hoist it
    up to a ceiling ;-) Make sure they're in joists, of course, cos I doubt
    even the ultralight road bikes are light enough for just ceiling plaster
    to take their weight :-)

    Trust me! there just ain't the room even for that.... Even my daughter's
    little bike has to lurk in her room..... It's a nightmare.

  13. LaoFuZhi said:

    Trust me! there just ain't the room even for that.... Even my daughter's
    little bike has to lurk in her room..... It's a nightmare.

    The latest issue of Cycle (CTC mag) has an article on bikes in relation
    to homes, and includes some good solutions for neat storage. Quite a
    neat one I'd not seen before are extendable poles that fit into place
    between floor and ceiling and can take a couple of bikes each side, so
    you can mount high up away from folk without needing to take the drill
    to anything.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/


  14. Quoted message said:

    The latest issue of Cycle (CTC mag) has an article on bikes in relation
    to homes, and includes some good solutions for neat storage. Quite a
    neat one I'd not seen before are extendable poles that fit into place
    between floor and ceiling and can take a couple of bikes each side, so
    you can mount high up away from folk without needing to take the drill
    to anything.

    I have a 'coal cellar' type cupboard out onthe landing where the two big
    bikes live.... I need to make some sort of semi-vertical stand in there and
    it _might_ be just possible to squeeze in a light racer, possibly hung up
    minus it's wheels... You just wouldn't beleive how pokey this place is...

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