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  1. What d'you think, gents?

    Quoted post said:

    Beckham was sent off three minutes from time by referee Arturo Dauden Ibanez after receiving two yellow cards in quick succession, the first for dissent and the second for applauding the decision "in a sarcastic manner".

    Real say they will present video evidence and photographs to the Spanish Football Federation's Appeals Committee to show that Beckham's clapping was "neither scornful nor sarcastic."

    The club said that Beckham, who has been one of the team's most influential players this season, would travel with the rest of the team to La Coruna on Tuesday in the hope that the sending off would be overturned.

    Beckham became the first England player to be sent off twice when he was dismissed in a World Cup qualifier against Austria.

    He has been sent off three times since joining Real in 2003 and once while at his previous club Manchester United.

    Real's Danish midfielder Thomas Gravesen was given a straight red card six minutes before Beckham's dismissal for a reckless challenge on Valencia winger Vicente, but the club are not launching an appeal against that decision.

    http://www.eurosport.co.uk/home/pages/v4/l2/s22/e10053/sport_lng2_spo22_evt10053_sto781770.shtml

    I'm not a big fan of Mr. Beckham, but it looked to me like Ibanez overreacted. (Saw the replay on FSC) Maybe he was hot from the previous yellow card?

  2. i saw this on the telly

    the ref did over react, no doubt. But becks should have known better, he could see thet the ref was all in a state and should have just shut up..

    i am all for disciplining dissent, i go to our local teams games at the weekend and the linesmen/refs take a power of verbal abuse from the players, mostly questioning the man's parental intergrity, intellectual capacity and visual faculties.

    its awful.

    get off becks...and shut the fock up...ya stupid blind [censored]..

    Wurm said:

    What d'you think, gents?

    eurosport.co.uksport lng2 spo22 evt10053 sto781770.shtml

    I'm not a big fan of Mr. Beckham, but it looked to me like Ibanez overreacted. (Saw the replay on FSC) Maybe he was hot from the previous yellow card?

  3. MountainPro said:

    i saw this on the telly

    the ref did over react, no doubt. But becks should have known better, he could see thet the ref was all in a state and should have just shut up..

    i am all for disciplining dissent, i go to our local teams games at the weekend and the linesmen/refs take a power of verbal abuse from the players, mostly questioning the man's parental intergrity, intellectual capacity and visual faculties.

    its awful.

    get off becks...and shut the fock up...ya stupid blind [censored]..

    Agreed. Most other sports have zero tolerance when it comes to players inlfuencing the ref (eg: rugby - when a player opens his mouth it's 10 yards). Footy should be no difference - ref's decision is final.

    Becks should move to south america where it's legal to whip out a 9mm and cap the ref if you don't like what he says 😄 😄

  4. His experience should really show here, he is the captain of england for gods sake. Its time to give up the tantrums.

    Eldron said:

    Agreed. Most other sports have zero tolerance when it comes to players inlfuencing the ref (eg: rugby - when a player opens his mouth it's 10 yards). Footy should be no difference - ref's decision is final.

    Becks should move to south america where it's legal to whip out a 9mm and cap the ref if you don't like what he says 😄 😄

  5. Too bad 'futbol' doesn't use the instant replay...could clear up some of these spats.

  6. Wurm said:

    What d'you think, gents?

    http://www.eurosport.co.uk/home/pages/v4/l2/s22/e10053/sport_lng2_spo22_evt10053_sto781770.shtml

    I'm not a big fan of Mr. Beckham, but it looked to me like Ibanez overreacted. (Saw the replay on FSC) Maybe he was hot from the previous yellow card?

    watched the match and while no fan of becks I do feel that the last two sending offs were harsh to say the least ( not to mention 2 penalties that were´nt )
    I live in the communidad de valencia so have little time for real so for me to say the ref was duff ...........

  7. How's about sending him off permanently? Preferably to the U.S.

  8. Carrera said:

    How's about sending him off permanently? Preferably to the U.S.


    Naw, you can keep him in Yurp. We have enough tantrum-prone spoiled brats here as it is (ie: Smirky the Chimp). 😄

  9. "who's beckham?" shoulda been one of your options.

    😉

  10. el Inglés said:

    watched the match and while no fan of becks I do feel that the last two sending offs were harsh to say the least ( not to mention 2 penalties that were´nt )
    I live in the communidad de valencia so have little time for real so for me to say the ref was duff ...........


    Beckham is playing some of the best stuff of his life for Real Madrid at the moment. The second booking was not on dirty list IMO. Have you seen how much stuff he has to put up with during a game? I've seen a few great footballers in my life, and he's one of them.

  11. I''d love to challenge him either in running, cycling or in the gym and see how fit he really is.
    Paula Radcliff yes. Kelly Holmes yes. Tim Henman O.K.
    But can we please get shot of this idiot Beckham and his spoilt brat mate Rooney?

    FredC said:

    Beckham is playing some of the best stuff of his life for Real Madrid at the moment. The second booking was not on dirty list IMO. Have you seen how much stuff he has to put up with during a game? I've seen a few great footballers in my life, and he's one of them.

  12. Looks like he dodged this one after all:

    Quoted post said:

    Both referee and the Spanish FA have agreed with Real's appeal on the basis that Beckham was not intending to show disrespect to the official and have rescinded the card in time for the Depor clash.


    http://www.eurosport.co.uk/home/pages/v4/l2/s22/e10053/sport_lng2_spo22_evt10053_sto782442.shtml

  13. Carrera said:

    I''d love to challenge him either in running, cycling or in the gym and see how fit he really is.
    Paula Radcliff yes. Kelly Holmes yes. Tim Henman O.K.
    But can we please get shot of this idiot Beckham and his spoilt brat mate Rooney?


    Beckham's very fit and wealthy and talented, always has been. Henman has always failed to deliver at Wimbledon, but at one time was ranked 8th in the world. Andrew Murray the young Scot has just knocked out Timmikins, now rated at about 150.
    You seem to go for the feminine side of things, therefore you might be a closet poofter.
    Young Mister Rooney is the greatest naturally talented player I have seen in the last 50 years since the ill-fated Midlander Duncan Edwards perished in Manchester Uniteds fateful aircrash at Munich. Even Sir Bobby Charlton glazes over when Duncan is mentioned, and shakes his head in a gesture of only he knows what's in his mind.
    Rooney has been voted Best Young Player of the Year by his fellow professionals worldwide.
    So where does that leave you, you bitter and twisted non achiever?

  14. FredC said:


    Young Mister Rooney is the greatest naturally talented player I have seen in the last 50 years...


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    [/font][font=Trebuchet MS]Pele.

    Always was, and still is.[/font]

  15. Wurm said:

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    Always was, and still is.[/font]


    Fair comment, but I never saw him play in his younger days, I don't think that there is any footage from that time. I've seen some of the alltime greats at Old Trafford. Alfredo di Stefano and Ferenc Puskas, Carmello and the winger Gento, the names of the others escapes me now many years later.
    Never mind, I can still feel the tingle of those special nights at Old Trafford.
    Don't forget that Rooney is only 19. Jeez. Nothing bothers him. He really is something special.

  16. Yeah, Rooney. I caught just a few minutes of a game the other day (I had to run), but I didn't see him handle the ball much in that short time. I'll need to check him out next time.

    I have seen vid of Pele from the early-mid 60's. Several years ago it was, but not great quality as you can imagine and not very long. It was on some sports "Greatest of All Time" thing or another.

    Then when he was with the Cosmos it seemed like he was on the tube all the time. I was a young kid then, and I remember how much in awe I was of the guy. Still am!

  17. Carrera said:

    I''d love to challenge him either in running, cycling or in the gym and see how fit he really is.


    it doesnt matter how fit he really is, he is fit enough to be playing regularly for one of the greatest clubs in the world. Perhaps that doesnt take super-fitness but it takes a lot of skill and talent as FredC said.

    if fitness was the case, perhaps Seb Coe would of taken Wolverhampton Wanderers to the European Cup finals in 1983.

  18. the UK is short of truly international sporting superstars and Becks is one of the few we have. Maybe D.Coulthard would be in there too but is is another Henman, we like to support him but he is never really going to win anything big.

    David beckham has become a benchmark for footballing legenderyness. When Nakamura signed for Celtic in the summer he was hailed as 'Japans answer to Beckham'....he is a good player alright but they were referring to his superstar lifestyle, model wife, big house, fast cars and bags of cash.

    Becks is good for the UK image.....but personally i think he is a big wet blouse.

  19. MountainPro said:

    the UK is short of truly international sporting superstars and Becks is one of the few we have. Maybe D.Coulthard would be in there too but is is another Henman, we like to support him but he is never really going to win anything big.

    David beckham has become a benchmark for footballing legenderyness. When Nakamura signed for Celtic in the summer he was hailed as 'Japans answer to Beckham'....he is a good player alright but they were referring to his superstar lifestyle, model wife, big house, fast cars and bags of cash.

    Becks is good for the UK image.....but personally i think he is a big wet blouse.

    Agreed - this whole metrosexual Becks may work for the ladies but alas the men think becks is a lady boy.

    Coulthard - egads. I've supported the man for years which is equivalent to slashing your wrists with a spoon - you keep trying hard but you never really get the result you're looking for.....

  20. I recall well the words of Muhammad Ali when he was joking with journalists about the image of the boxer or the sportsman. His words ring true for David Beckham and Rooney. I mean, you begin the conversation with Rooney and ask:
    "Hey, champ, what do you think about the latest famine in Zimbabwe?"
    And the response goes:
    "Duh, duh, well a fink, duh, isn't Zimabawe on the costa del sol?"
    So, the reporter tries David Beckham:
    "What do you think about recent developments treating cancer?"
    "Duh, a fink me latest tattoos go well with me air!"
    God, it's frightening! Give me Lance Armstrong any day of the week. Can't stand either one of them 🙁
    Every day you have to suffer stories in the Sun or Star with those two characters who are supposed to be role models. Yuk!

    MountainPro said:

    the UK is short of truly international sporting superstars and Becks is one of the few we have. Maybe D.Coulthard would be in there too but is is another Henman, we like to support him but he is never really going to win anything big.

    David beckham has become a benchmark for footballing legenderyness. When Nakamura signed for Celtic in the summer he was hailed as 'Japans answer to Beckham'....he is a good player alright but they were referring to his superstar lifestyle, model wife, big house, fast cars and bags of cash.

    Becks is good for the UK image.....but personally i think he is a big wet blouse.

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