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Left my bike at Notting Hill Carnival for 5 hours. I reckon that's a pretty
good test of the security.
The police had said to me "You can lock it there, but there's no guarantee
it'll be there when you get back." (Yeah, but I fugured there'd be about 30
police hanging out on the corner of Hereford Road all day. I was right.)
Oh, and I think my Kryptonite locks may have been useful too.
elyob said:Left my bike at Notting Hill Carnival for 5 hours. I reckon that's a pretty
good test of the security.
Mmm, still, I would rather err on the side of caution and not expose it to the risk.
Interesting that you bring up the subject though. I thought that my Abus Granit Steel-O-Flex was bulletproof when it comes to security (with it being £50 as well) until some lady told me that there's an easy way of breaking them open which I won't repeat here.
Still, I live in London and have used it for 4 years and so no one's broken through it (touch wood) - so maybe it isn't so easy.
dannyfrankszzz said:
Interesting that you bring up the subject though. I thought that my
Abus Granit Steel-O-Flex was bulletproof when it comes to security
(with it being £50 as well) until some lady told me that there's an
easy way of breaking them open which I won't repeat here.
The bic biro trick is very well known and if your lock is one of those
that is vulnerable you are living on borrowed time if you continue to
use it. It takes all of ten seconds to open the lock. If you have a
Kryptonite they have a replacement programme running but I don't know
about Abus.
--
Tony
"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon
"elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:Left my bike at Notting Hill Carnival for 5 hours. I reckon that's a
pretty good test of the security.The police had said to me "You can lock it there, but there's no guarantee
it'll be there when you get back." (Yeah, but I fugured there'd be about
30 police hanging out on the corner of Hereford Road all day. I was
right.)Oh, and I think my Kryptonite locks may have been useful too.
I have an autolok for my car. It covers the entire steering wheel, and
weighs a lot more than anything I'd like to carry about on the bike. It
takes 2 minutes for someone to get it off if they know what they're doing -
according to magazine tests, knowing what you're doing is beating the hell
out of it with a lump hammer. I doubt many bike locks will last very long.
"Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:dannyfrankszzz said:
Interesting that you bring up the subject though. I thought that my
Abus Granit Steel-O-Flex was bulletproof when it comes to security
(with it being £50 as well) until some lady told me that there's an
easy way of breaking them open which I won't repeat here.bic
You beat me to it. My Kryptonite is the new model. I've also got another
strengthened cable through the front wheel and frame. And totally "from
experience".
I speak to other cyclists about where I park my bike ... in
Kingston-upon-Thames ... it's in front of the taxi rank near the ex-Allders
shop. Why? Because there is always someone 'honest' looking at it. The taxi
guys are always there during the day.
It'd also take a while to get through my locks without power tools (ex-Bic
lock). I hope. But I think today was a good test.
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news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:Left my bike at Notting Hill Carnival for 5 hours. I reckon that's a
pretty good test of the security.The police had said to me "You can lock it there, but there's no
guarantee it'll be there when you get back." (Yeah, but I fugured there'd
be about 30 police hanging out on the corner of Hereford Road all day. I
was right.)Oh, and I think my Kryptonite locks may have been useful too.
I have an autolok for my car. It covers the entire steering wheel, and
weighs a lot more than anything I'd like to carry about on the bike. It
takes 2 minutes for someone to get it off if they know what they're
doing - according to magazine tests, knowing what you're doing is beating
the hell out of it with a lump hammer. I doubt many bike locks will last
very long.
Well, this is my bike ..
http://fishpluschips.com/20050829security/mybike.jpg
... fully stripped .. double locked. Note the Kryptonite without any room to
put a car jack. Front wheel locked with my 5 minute lock. But of course,
here's my real security ...
http://fishpluschips.com/20050829security/mysecurity.jpg
My rack did become a beer rack whilst I was away, but that's fine!
To be honest, I didn't give it a second thought. And it's not a bad bike.
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Quoted message said:Well, this is my bike ..
http://fishpluschips.com/20050829security/mybike.jpg
By the way, that was the empty cans and bottles when I arrived! I took a
photo "just in case".
So, yes, I took a risk. I do regularly. (Previous comments include .. "I
cannot believe you have to take your saddle off", "It's a sad day when you
can't trust anyone" etc etc .. but I think my locking combination is 'as
good as it gets'😉. However I did wonder whether my shocks and handlebars
would be there! However, that is why I didn't take the new racer. Too many
people have said "nice bike". It's not beaten up enough yet.
Maybe I ought to consider ... no I won't do it. I like having Kona written
on the side.
There is no way I'd leave my bike overnight though.
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"elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:Left my bike at Notting Hill Carnival for 5 hours. I reckon that's a
pretty good test of the security.The police had said to me "You can lock it there, but there's no
guarantee it'll be there when you get back." (Yeah, but I fugured
there'd be about 30 police hanging out on the corner of Hereford Road
all day. I was right.)Oh, and I think my Kryptonite locks may have been useful too.
I have an autolok for my car. It covers the entire steering wheel, and
weighs a lot more than anything I'd like to carry about on the bike. It
takes 2 minutes for someone to get it off if they know what they're
doing - according to magazine tests, knowing what you're doing is beating
the hell out of it with a lump hammer. I doubt many bike locks will last
very long.Well, this is my bike ..
http://fishpluschips.com/20050829security/mybike.jpg.. fully stripped .. double locked. Note the Kryptonite without any room
to put a car jack. Front wheel locked with my 5 minute lock. But of
course, here's my real security ...
They don't go at the car locks with car jacks. They just beat the hell out
of them - presumably where they can get some leverage on the welds. If
someone really wants your bike, they'll get it. OTOH, a beefy lock is likely
to put off most people and get them to look at another bike.
Doki said:"elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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news:[email hidden]...>Left my bike at Notting Hill Carnival for 5 hours. I reckon that's a
>pretty good test of the security.
>
>The police had said to me "You can lock it there, but there's no
>guarantee it'll be there when you get back." (Yeah, but I fugured
>there'd be about 30 police hanging out on the corner of Hereford Road
>all day. I was right.)
>
>Oh, and I think my Kryptonite locks may have been useful too.I have an autolok for my car. It covers the entire steering wheel, and
weighs a lot more than anything I'd like to carry about on the bike. It
takes 2 minutes for someone to get it off if they know what they're
doing - according to magazine tests, knowing what you're doing is beating
the hell out of it with a lump hammer. I doubt many bike locks will last
very long.Well, this is my bike ..
http://fishpluschips.com/20050829security/mybike.jpg.. fully stripped .. double locked. Note the Kryptonite without any room
to put a car jack. Front wheel locked with my 5 minute lock. But of
course, here's my real security ...They don't go at the car locks with car jacks. They just beat the hell out
of them - presumably where they can get some leverage on the welds. If
someone really wants your bike, they'll get it. OTOH, a beefy lock is likely
to put off most people and get them to look at another bike.
Hence the gist of my post. I'm sure it was more down to where it was,
and not what it was locked with. Someone with a lump hammer would have
been shot.
In message id <[email hidden]> on Mon, 29 Aug 2005
20:40:56 +0100, elyob wrote in uk.rec.cycling :
Quoted message said:Left my bike at Notting Hill Carnival for 5 hours. I reckon that's a pretty
good test of the security.The police had said to me "You can lock it there, but there's no guarantee
it'll be there when you get back." (Yeah, but I fugured there'd be about 30
police hanging out on the corner of Hereford Road all day. I was right.)Oh, and I think my Kryptonite locks may have been useful too.
The police hanging around was the most likely deterrent. I used to
cycle to White Hart Lane, home of the soon to be mighty again
Tottenham Hotspurs, in North London.
On a match day, I would lock up just opposite The Corner Pin pub. In
over 10 years (must have been in excess of 150 games) the bike was
always untouched. The 50 or so coppers plus horses plus dogs plus van
loads at that corner of the ground MUST have made a difference. I
doubt it would survive as well on a non match day in the same spot.
Having said that, I know someone who is based at Tottenham nick and he
says that reports of car crime goes up significantly on match days.
Mostly it is minor damage, dents, bumps, scratches and cars that were
not where the driver left them. However, if the driver paid attention
to the parking restrictions, didn't park across someone's front garden
/ off road parking space, didn't take the "residents parking spot"
there would have been no problems.
It was fans of the club driving in that caused the spike in the
reported "crime levels.
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Quoted message said:In message id <[email hidden]> on Mon, 29 Aug 2005
20:40:56 +0100, elyob wrote in uk.rec.cycling :It was fans of the club driving in that caused the spike in the
reported "crime levels.
Or, of course, anger at these newbies in the area .....
It was totally the police presence. I think my rack helped. It had 4/5 beer
cans on it when I returned. That must make it less desirable 🙂
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