best v-brake value.....

On Jun 18, 9:14 am, "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]>

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I still have POS 26" mtb that I still maintain, and it has some promax
v-brakes that don't work anymore, unless you consider one pad rubbing on the
wheel, working. I want to replace them with some new v-brakes. What are
some good value v-brakes that work decently but don't cost a fortune. Not
interested in POS promax, anything else.

Frankly, there are better and worse Vs (based on weight, stiffness,
tolerances at the pivot, pads), but functionally they're all within
the same ballpark.

One pad being pulled into the rim sounds like a easily fixable
problem. There are wire springs behind each brake caliper that reach
from the pivot up towards the top of the caliper. Those springs are
held in place by a nub that protrudes from the top-back of the
caliper. Let's say that the left pad is the one being pulled into the
rim. Sounds like the left side caliper spring is disengaged, which
means that the right caliper's engaged spring is pulling the left pad
into the rim.

There should also be some bolts at the base of the calipers which will
help align the calipers.

Last thing to try is to remove the calipers and make sure the base of
the spring is in the appropriate hole within the braze-on.

/s

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I still have POS 26" mtb that I still maintain, and it has some promax
v-brakes that don't work anymore, unless you consider one pad rubbing on

the

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wheel, working. I want to replace them with some new v-brakes. What

are

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some good value v-brakes that work decently but don't cost a fortune.

Not

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interested in POS promax, anything else.

Frankly, there are better and worse Vs (based on weight, stiffness,
tolerances at the pivot, pads), but functionally they're all within
the same ballpark.

One pad being pulled into the rim sounds like a easily fixable
problem. There are wire springs behind each brake caliper that reach
from the pivot up towards the top of the caliper. Those springs are
held in place by a nub that protrudes from the top-back of the
caliper. Let's say that the left pad is the one being pulled into the
rim. Sounds like the left side caliper spring is disengaged, which
means that the right caliper's engaged spring is pulling the left pad
into the rim.

There should also be some bolts at the base of the calipers which will
help align the calipers.

Last thing to try is to remove the calipers and make sure the base of
the spring is in the appropriate hole within the braze-on.

/s

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tried all of that, I think the spring no longer works. When springs fail,
they still look ok, they just don't work. The brakes are 10 years old. Had
the same thing happen on a road bike brake, just by looking at it, it should
of worked, but it didn't. I think it was also a spring failure.

Callistus Valerius said:

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Quoted message said:

I still have POS 26" mtb that I still maintain, and it has some promax
v-brakes that don't work anymore, unless you consider one pad rubbing on

the

Quoted message said:

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wheel, working. I want to replace them with some new v-brakes. What

are

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

some good value v-brakes that work decently but don't cost a fortune.

Not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

interested in POS promax, anything else.

Frankly, there are better and worse Vs (based on weight, stiffness,
tolerances at the pivot, pads), but functionally they're all within
the same ballpark.

One pad being pulled into the rim sounds like a easily fixable
problem. There are wire springs behind each brake caliper that reach
from the pivot up towards the top of the caliper. Those springs are
held in place by a nub that protrudes from the top-back of the
caliper. Let's say that the left pad is the one being pulled into the
rim. Sounds like the left side caliper spring is disengaged, which
means that the right caliper's engaged spring is pulling the left pad
into the rim.

There should also be some bolts at the base of the calipers which will
help align the calipers.

Last thing to try is to remove the calipers and make sure the base of
the spring is in the appropriate hole within the braze-on.

/s

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tried all of that, I think the spring no longer works. When springs fail,
they still look ok, they just don't work. The brakes are 10 years old. Had
the same thing happen on a road bike brake, just by looking at it, it should
of worked, but it didn't. I think it was also a spring failure.

Take them off one of your road bikes, since you have such mad skills and
do so many miles there is no need for brakes.

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On Jun 18, 9:41 am, "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]>

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I still have POS 26" mtb that I still maintain, and it has some promax
v-brakes that don't work anymore, unless you consider one pad rubbing on

the

Quoted message said:

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wheel, working. I want to replace them with some new v-brakes. What

are

Quoted message said:

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some good value v-brakes that work decently but don't cost a fortune.

Not

Quoted message said:

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interested in POS promax, anything else.

Quoted message said:

Frankly, there are better and worse Vs (based on weight, stiffness,
tolerances at the pivot, pads), but functionally they're all within
the same ballpark.

Quoted message said:

One pad being pulled into the rim sounds like a easily fixable
problem. There are wire springs behind each brake caliper that reach
from the pivot up towards the top of the caliper. Those springs are
held in place by a nub that protrudes from the top-back of the
caliper. Let's say that the left pad is the one being pulled into the
rim. Sounds like the left side caliper spring is disengaged, which
means that the right caliper's engaged spring is pulling the left pad
into the rim.

Quoted message said:

There should also be some bolts at the base of the calipers which will
help align the calipers.

Quoted message said:

Last thing to try is to remove the calipers and make sure the base of
the spring is in the appropriate hole within the braze-on.

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/s

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tried all of that, I think the spring no longer works. When springs fail,
they still look ok, they just don't work. The brakes are 10 years old. Had
the same thing happen on a road bike brake, just by looking at it, it should
of worked, but it didn't. I think it was also a spring failure.- Hide quoted text -

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See if there are bolts at the base of the calipers. Give the weak side
a couple clockwise turns and see if that helps. Or see about where the
spring anchors into the brazeon and try switching the anchor to a
different hole.

If none of those works then your best value would be to garbage pick a
Pacific, remove the calipers, and swap out the springs.

Or maybe when you go to the shop to pick up your 29er, you could ask
them to replace the spring.

/s

Callistus Valerius said:

I still have POS 26" mtb that I still maintain, and it has some promax
v-brakes that don't work anymore, unless you consider one pad rubbing on the
wheel, working. I want to replace them with some new v-brakes. What are
some good value v-brakes that work decently but don't cost a fortune. Not
interested in POS promax, anything else.

Dumpster dive for some old LX brakes.

Matt

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Take them off one of your road bikes, since you have such mad skills and
do so many miles there is no need for brakes.

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I must admit that a.m.b is not as threatened by my long distance prowess, as
r.b.r is. Their attacks are sometime ferocious, maybe ultracyclists have
more in common with mtb folk? It's hard for me to think that an 80 mile
crit, where all you see is the guys ass in front of you is riding. But
someone from rbr admitted it wasn't about riding, it was about beating the
other guy, so I guess that's where I missed the boat there.

On Jun 18, 5:59 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]>

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Take them off one of your road bikes, since you have such mad skills and
do so many miles there is no need for brakes.

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I must admit that a.m.b is not as threatened by my long distance prowess, as
r.b.r is. Their attacks are sometime ferocious, maybe ultracyclists have
more in common with mtb folk? It's hard for me to think that an 80 mile
crit, where all you see is the guys ass in front of you is riding. But
someone from rbr admitted it wasn't about riding, it was about beating the
other guy, so I guess that's where I missed the boat there.

Imagine our 40-milers...Tom

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I must admit that a.m.b is not as threatened by my long distance

prowess, as

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r.b.r is. Their attacks are sometime ferocious, maybe ultracyclists

have

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more in common with mtb folk? It's hard for me to think that an 80 mile
crit, where all you see is the guys ass in front of you is riding. But
someone from rbr admitted it wasn't about riding, it was about beating

the

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other guy, so I guess that's where I missed the boat there.

Imagine our 40-milers...Tom

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Pumps stuck in competitors wheels......chariot race style? Nothing wrong
with competition, as I was pretty good at competing in high school
sports......but pace line crashes have a way a redirecting your efforts.
Ooh, there is nothing that compares with hitting the pavement. There are
two types, sliding on pavement, and sudden stops on pavement. I can't
describe the latter, but it definitely opens your mind to maybe doing
something else.

On Jun 18, 6:59 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]>

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Take them off one of your road bikes, since you have such mad skills and
do so many miles there is no need for brakes.

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I must admit that a.m.b is not as threatened by my long distance prowess, as
r.b.r is.

Nah we are use to self-aggrandizing gas bags who tend toward
exageration with almost every statement.

BTW since you are such an accomplished Ultra rider, why don't you
start naming names. Instead of posting "I was once at this event," put
up the name of the event and how you finished. Then maybe someone
around hear would give a rats ass about what you have to say. As of
right now you are just another usenet tool, with a 5200 gathering dust
in his garage.

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Their attacks are sometime ferocious, maybe ultracyclists have
more in common with mtb folk?

If by that you mean that few ppl in this group race than over at
rbr ..... then you might be correct.

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It's hard for me to think that an 80 mile
crit, <snip>

And there you go again ... Do you have any idea how rare a criterium
of 80 miles is? Durations are more in the realm of 25 to 50 miles or 1
hour to 90 minutes. Criteriums over 75 miles are so rare it is hard
for most ppl to imagine.

<snip>

R

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Nah we are use to self-aggrandizing gas bags who tend toward
exageration with almost every statement.

BTW since you are such an accomplished Ultra rider, why don't you
start naming names. Instead of posting "I was once at this event," put
up the name of the event and how you finished. Then maybe someone
around hear would give a rats ass about what you have to say. As of
right now you are just another usenet tool, with a 5200 gathering dust
in his garage.

============
My mama told me never to brag, about competitive events.
============

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Their attacks are sometime ferocious, maybe ultracyclists have
more in common with mtb folk?

If by that you mean that few ppl in this group race than over at
rbr ..... then you might be correct.

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It's hard for me to think that an 80 mile
crit, <snip>

And there you go again ... Do you have any idea how rare a criterium
of 80 miles is? Durations are more in the realm of 25 to 50 miles or 1
hour to 90 minutes. Criteriums over 75 miles are so rare it is hard
for most ppl to imagine.

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You gotta be kidding, that's an mtb race (25-50) around here. I've never
been in a road race less than 70 miles. That's why I quit doing them, it
seems all you do is drive to them and drive back with a sprinkle of riding
in between. Do you ever ride bikes, or do you just pose by them? Do you
live in the inner city?

Crescentius Vespasianus said:

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Nah we are use to self-aggrandizing gas bags who tend toward
exageration with almost every statement.

BTW since you are such an accomplished Ultra rider, why don't you
start naming names. Instead of posting "I was once at this event," put
up the name of the event and how you finished. Then maybe someone
around hear would give a rats ass about what you have to say. As of
right now you are just another usenet tool, with a 5200 gathering dust
in his garage.

============
My mama told me never to brag, about competitive events.
============

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Their attacks are sometime ferocious, maybe ultracyclists have
more in common with mtb folk?

If by that you mean that few ppl in this group race than over at
rbr ..... then you might be correct.

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It's hard for me to think that an 80 mile
crit, <snip>

And there you go again ... Do you have any idea how rare a criterium
of 80 miles is? Durations are more in the realm of 25 to 50 miles or 1
hour to 90 minutes. Criteriums over 75 miles are so rare it is hard
for most ppl to imagine.

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You gotta be kidding, that's an mtb race (25-50) around here. I've never
been in a road race less than 70 miles. That's why I quit doing them, it
seems all you do is drive to them and drive back with a sprinkle of riding
in between. Do you ever ride bikes, or do you just pose by them? Do you
live in the inner city?

If I race, I usually ride my bike to it. Makes it hard to forget stuff
I'd need as well. They typically range from 12-30 Miles which wouldn't
be much on the road, but a good course designer can make a very
challenging course within these distances.

Matt

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You gotta be kidding, that's an mtb race (25-50) around here. I've

never

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been in a road race less than 70 miles. That's why I quit doing them,

it

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seems all you do is drive to them and drive back with a sprinkle of

riding

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in between. Do you ever ride bikes, or do you just pose by them? Do

you

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live in the inner city?

If I race, I usually ride my bike to it. Makes it hard to forget stuff
I'd need as well. They typically range from 12-30 Miles which wouldn't
be much on the road, but a good course designer can make a very
challenging course within these distances.

Matt

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I never have much for racing, I'm more of an adventure guy. Nothing against
racing, but in road, it isn't a question if you will go to the hospital, but
of when. I went once, and that blew my budget that year, so that was it for
me. Good thing about long distance is no drafting, which is the cause of
most accidents. I even felt bad one time when a guys tire popped in the
pace line in front of me, he went down, the guy in front of me braked, then
I braked, and 3 guys went down behind me, after the lead guy hit my rear
tire. Not my fault, but I just hated being part of that [censored]. They have a
100 mile mtb race here, and couple of 60 milers, that I'd like to do, but
first I have to learn the skills, with the right bike. I don't want to do
the technical stuff, just the long stuff, with lights, stuff I'm familiar
with on how to train for it, and what to eat, etc.

On Jun 19, 3:20 pm, "Crescentius Vespasianus" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
<snip a whole lotta nothing>

You're not gone yet?

JD

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It's hard for me to think that an 80 mile
crit, <snip>

And there you go again ... Do you have any idea how rare a criterium
of 80 miles is? Durations are more in the realm of 25 to 50 miles or 1
hour to 90 minutes. Criteriums over 75 miles are so rare it is hard
for most ppl to imagine.

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You gotta be kidding, that's an mtb race (25-50) around here. I've never
been in a road race less than 70 miles.

Then it's not a crit dumbass.

Greg
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You're not gone yet?

JD

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teach me all you know..........like you push this with your thumb, and pull
the bar this way,...............and then you pedal REAL fast.......does that
about cover it?

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You gotta be kidding, that's an mtb race (25-50) around here. I've

never

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been in a road race less than 70 miles.

Then it's not a crit dumbass.

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Damn it! That's what they always say in rbr. I know about those little
crits, they're stupid, usually dumbasses come from out of town, ride an
hour, and then talk about it for 3 hours. Someone, finally got killed on
one, when they didn't close the course. I watched one once, saw them come
around a third time, and said this is stupid, let's get out of here.

Callistus Valerius said:

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You gotta be kidding, that's an mtb race (25-50) around here. I've

never

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been in a road race less than 70 miles.

Then it's not a crit dumbass.

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Damn it! That's what they always say in rbr. I know about those little
crits, they're stupid, usually dumbasses come from out of town, ride an
hour, and then talk about it for 3 hours. Someone, finally got killed on
one, when they didn't close the course. I watched one once, saw them come
around a third time, and said this is stupid, let's get out of here.

Can I pay you to go away? I find you incredibly annoying. I think it's
the way you write in addition to your constant useless dribble. You are
even worse than that Stanford a$$.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws

On Jun 19, 4:00 pm, "Crescentius Vespasianus" <[email hidden]>

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Nah we are use to self-aggrandizing gas bags who tend toward
exageration with almost every statement.

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BTW since you are such an accomplished Ultra rider, why don't you
start naming names. Instead of posting "I was once at this event," put
up the name of the event and how you finished. Then maybe someone
around hear would give a rats ass about what you have to say. As of
right now you are just another usenet tool, with a 5200 gathering dust
in his garage.

============
My mama told me never to brag, about competitive events.
============

It isn't bragging if you can back it up gas bag. So in your case ,,,
it's bragging.

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Their attacks are sometime ferocious, maybe ultracyclists have

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more in common with mtb folk?

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If by that you mean that few ppl in this group race than over at
rbr ..... then you might be correct.

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It's hard for me to think that an 80 mile
crit, <snip>

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And there you go again ... Do you have any idea how rare a criterium
of 80 miles is? Durations are more in the realm of 25 to 50 miles or 1
hour to 90 minutes. Criteriums over 75 miles are so rare it is hard
for most ppl to imagine.

-----------------
You gotta be kidding, that's an mtb race (25-50) around here. I've never
been in a road race less than 70 miles. That's why I quit doing them, it
seems all you do is drive to them and drive back with a sprinkle of riding
in between.

Road races are not crits, crits are not road races.

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Do you ever ride bikes, or do you just pose by them?

Been around bicycles and bicycle racing most of my life. I have been
known to pose with a few. I ride now and then, been know to do the
occasional 12 or 24 hour event ... even a few double doubles. I have
also built and worked on bikes for both Rick Bozeat and Jim Elliott. I
am sure you have know idea who they are, but you can always use
google ... here's a hint they know Pete.

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Do you live in the inner city?

Nope, never have. Although, I did coach at an "inner city" high school
for several years. What's your point?

Ride-A-Lot said:

Callistus Valerius said:

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> You gotta be kidding, that's an mtb race (25-50) around here. I've

never

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> been in a road race less than 70 miles.
Then it's not a crit dumbass.

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Damn it! That's what they always say in rbr. I know about those little
crits, they're stupid, usually dumbasses come from out of town, ride an
hour, and then talk about it for 3 hours. Someone, finally got killed on
one, when they didn't close the course. I watched one once, saw them
come
around a third time, and said this is stupid, let's get out of here.

Can I pay you to go away? I find you incredibly annoying. I think it's
the way you write in addition to your constant useless dribble. You are
even worse than that Stanford a$$.

The collective insecurity and small-man
syndrome of this group is appalling, yet
I can't turn away ... kind of like a car
accident.

Thanks for the thought though,
Sprinkler. I can't decide whether I'm
disappointed not to be the worst or
offended by the comparison to this dbag.
In any case it's about as much
difference as if it hangs to the left or
right.

cc