Better helmet?

Ambrose Nankivell said:

Tony Raven said:

Nothing is better than a helmet ;-)

Send me £10 and I'll send you one by return of post.

Nigel Cliffe said:

Tony Raven said:

Peter Clinch said:

Skiers' helmets are designed for ... little cardiovascular effort

You need to ski harder! ;-)

Proper skier's ski uphill, usually with a fair bit of cardiovascular effort.
And without helmets.

If God had meant us to ski uphill he wouldn't have given us ski lifts ;-)

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Ambrose Nankivell said:

Tony Raven said:

Nothing is better than a helmet ;-)

Thank you for this helpful suggestion.

Where might I go to purchase this nothing?

Mcdonalds, indeed most high street food outlets, have been selling it
for years, thinly disguised.

R.

Tony Raven said:

If God had meant us to ski uphill he wouldn't have given us ski lifts ;-)

As long as you're happy to assume that God only meant you to ski in
formal lift-served skiing areas, fine, but Proper Skiers prefer nicer
places...

Pete.
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Peter Clinch said:

Tony Raven said:

If God had meant us to ski uphill he wouldn't have given us ski lifts ;-)

As long as you're happy to assume that God only meant you to ski in
formal lift-served skiing areas, fine, but Proper Skiers prefer nicer
places...

You mean the ones accessed by helicopter? ;-)

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right."
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Tony Raven said:

You mean the ones accessed by helicopter? ;-)

I can think of lots of places I can ski too where landing a helicopter
is a non-starter.

Isn't it time you put an electric motor in your Brompton, Tony? ;-)

Pete.
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Peter Clinch said:

Tony Raven said:

You mean the ones accessed by helicopter? ;-)

I can think of lots of places I can ski too where landing a helicopter
is a non-starter.

Isn't it time you put an electric motor in your Brompton, Tony? ;-)

The products of Herr Heinzmann are much undervalued ;-)

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right."
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Peter Clinch said:

Tony Raven said:

You mean the ones accessed by helicopter? ;-)

I can think of lots of places I can ski too where landing a helicopter
is a non-starter.

I thought Real Skiers simply threw themselves out of a hovering
helicopter over a steep slope. James Bond did it, so it must be true.

Just to keep this vaguely on-topic - how long before Bond gets a bicycle
outfitted by Q-branch? And what would it have as features? My UKP 0.02:

It'd be black [1], naturally (get the most important decision out of the
way), a seriously expensive hardtail with straight bars. The sloping
top tube incorporates a forward-firing Stinger missile to take out road
blocks, Cyclist Dismount signs, &c, whilst the bars fire explosive
flechette rounds sideways to take out any cars that are trying to
left-hook. The saddle (Brooks, naturally) and seattube are actually a
cunning ejector seat (which is also linked to the security system, so
anyone trying to ride it off whose fingerprints aren't read by the
handlebar grip readers gets projected 40' up to (briefly) consider the
error of their ways). Accessories include wraparound sunglasses with
an HUD with whatever display is required at the moment. Pedals are
clipless, with diamond-tipped cutting blades at the extremities to slash
car tires and machine-gun-wielding evil redshirts.

[1] Or possibly that shade of black known as British Racing Green.

R.

Tony Raven said:

The products of Herr Heinzmann are much undervalued ;-)

Though not, alas, reflected in their market price ;-/

Pete.
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Richard said:

Mcdonalds, indeed most high street food outlets, have been selling it
for years, thinly disguised.

ITYM /fatly/ disguised.

d.

Richard twisted the electrons to say:

Quoted message said:

[1] Or possibly that shade of black known as British Racing Green.

Given that they had a "stealth" Aston Martin in the last film, it would
have to be some form of smart-paint (ie: able to change colour just like
the Rolls Royce in _Terrahawks_) at least ...
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Alistair Gunn said:

Richard twisted the electrons to say:

Quoted message said:

[1] Or possibly that shade of black known as British Racing Green.

Given that they had a "stealth" Aston Martin in the last film, it would
have to be some form of smart-paint (ie: able to change colour just like
the Rolls Royce in _Terrahawks_) at least ...

For total stealth cycling a bright yellow jacket, lots of reflective
tape and multiple flashing lights.

--
Dave...

Richard said:

I thought Real Skiers simply threw themselves out of a hovering
helicopter over a steep slope. James Bond did it, so it must be true.

Just to keep this vaguely on-topic - how long before Bond gets a bicycle
outfitted by Q-branch? And what would it have as features? My UKP 0.02:

[Kit list deleted]

If James Bond rode a bike, it would be an Airnimal in my opinion. I can
just hear Q's voice in my head as he opens the suitcase to show 007 the
bike.

Mike

MichaelJP said:

Is there anything I can get which would be lightweight but offer better
protection and more sensible design? Something like a lighter climbers or
skiers helmet?

You could buy a full face helmet, although a study a couple of years ago
show that these can result in an increased risk of basal skull fractures
(cyclist knocks the chinguard, shock is transmitted around the helmet to
the base of the skull, where the edge of the helmet fractures the skull).

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Richard said:

Just to keep this vaguely on-topic - how long before Bond gets a bicycle
outfitted by Q-branch? And what would it have as features? My UKP 0.02:

It'd be black [1], naturally (get the most important decision out of the
way), a seriously expensive hardtail with straight bars.

Bond would surely ride a carbon fibre lowracer recumbent. Or maybe
something with a full fairing. How about this as a Bond Bike?:
<url:http://www.totalbike.com/news/article/367/>
<url:http://www.varnahandcycles.com/gallery/gallery_diablo.htm>

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Thus spake MichaelJP:

Quoted message said:

I don't want to open an argument about whether it is better to wear a
helmet or not, but as a recent convert to pedal power from
motorcycles I don't understand the design philosophy behind cycle
helmets. I should say I'm no expert on cycling so feel free to inform
me where I'm going wrong.
Compared to what I'm used to, all the helmets available seem to offer
little or no protection to the ears, temple, base of the skull. They
also stick out front and rear which would seem to offer neck-twisting
leverage for an impact with anything solid. This seems to be purely
for aerodynamic reasons which may be very important on the Tour de
France but has zero relevance to my commute to work.

Is there anything I can get which would be lightweight but offer
better protection and more sensible design? Something like a lighter
climbers or skiers helmet?

TIA,

Apart from the previous suggestions, what ever type you decide on - /get one
that fits well/.
My last helmet was a fairly expensive Giro E2 but it ended up doing me more
harm than good!
A. Because the helmet never fitted well, the peak would cause the helmet
to tip forward from wind forces & vibration. This caused me to compensate by
arching my neck. Doing so gave me quite severe neck & shoulder pain for a
couple of years.
B. This helmet's design had a centre rib with a fore/aft pad & 2 on either
side. Seems good on paper but my head isn't that unusual in having a slight
ridge down the centre (no, seriously!) This meant the helmet would end up
settling to one side or the other & would result in the helmet being able to
move fore/aft far too easily IMO.
C. Peaks do have their uses such as keeping rain off glasses & oncoming
headlights out of one's eyes. I recommend a peak the can be swivelled
upwards so as to not obscure your vision & stays where it is set. The best
peaks are ones that can be removed easily.

I religiously wore helmets up to about 5 yrs ago. My recovered neck has
thanked me for nor wearing one but I closed a road for couple of hours &
left a slippery red puddle 2 yrs ago where my head hit the tarmac. I've
found I get used to wearing one equally well as not! Getting a helmet that
fits as perfectly as possible is a must. Due to a recent accident, I'm
looking for a new one - & one that doesn't have a centre rib such as the
Giro Xen. Some makes seem to suit a particular head shapes better than
others so try as many as possible & don't even think of buying one mail
order unless you've already tried it on & taken the time to adjust the
straps before hand. One test I do is to flick my head forward & downwards to
see how much the helmet moves. I personally wouldn't rely to much on the
extra pads supplied with helmets to get a good fit & getting the straps just
right can be a tiresome but worthwhile task. Unlike my opinion a few yrs
ago, I'm not entirely convinced how useful they are - despite coming very
close to dying through not wearing one!

In article <[email hidden]>, Danny

Colyer () said:

Richard said:

Just to keep this vaguely on-topic - how long before Bond gets a bicycle
outfitted by Q-branch? And what would it have as features? My UKP 0.02:

It'd be black [1], naturally (get the most important decision out of the
way), a seriously expensive hardtail with straight bars.

Bond would surely ride a carbon fibre lowracer recumbent. Or maybe
something with a full fairing. How about this as a Bond Bike?:
<url:http://www.totalbike.com/news/article/367/>
<url:http://www.varnahandcycles.com/gallery/gallery_diablo.htm>

Or this:

<URL:http://www.salmon7.fsnet.co.uk/koln97_files/image010.jpg>
<URL:http://www.ihpva.org/chapters/france/images/france/nilgo&laurent.jp
g>

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Dave Larrington said:

<URL:http://www.ihpva.org/chapters/france/images/france/nilgo&laurent.jpg>

Looks like an Etruscan relief. Where is this from?

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dkahn400 () said:

Dave Larrington said:

<URL:http://www.ihpva.org/chapters/france/images/france/nilgo&laurent.jpg>

Looks like an Etruscan relief. Where is this from?

Not 100% certain. Could have been Cologne in 1997, or one of the events
run in Roubaix in the mid-90's. The Nilgo was active from about 1994-
97.

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of the carrots! You see, Reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day and
to them it is the holocaust."

Mike K Smith said:

If James Bond rode a bike, it would be an Airnimal in my opinion. I can
just hear Q's voice in my head as he opens the suitcase to show 007 the
bike.

"*Do* try to return it in one piece, 007" ;-)

David Belcher