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  1. perhaps this is off topic:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my office in the elevator. i always
    walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the front wheel up. my feeling has been that this is the
    right way to go, since it takes up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little crowded)
    elevator. a man who may or may not be an upper-up in my department (gulp) started pestering me about
    how i nearly took his nose off, and my bicycle was a weapon, and i should not walk the bicycle in
    this way. i didn't realize that i may have committed a faux pas until i was off the elevator, safely
    away from this man. the question: did i done wrong? my bicycle is relatively clean at the moment,
    mostly unobtrusive, and i am careful to hover near the chaindrive so that my body blocks others from
    grease stains. in short, i believe i am being a decent citizen in the elevator, and have never had
    this kind of problem before. for background, this is an institute of higher learning, and not, say,
    wall street or corporate america. and for irrelevant background, its a 99 bianchi volpe. what's the
    elevator etiquette for universities?

    --sep

    [[ love me, love my hobby. -- j. dahmer ]] [[ steven.e.pav p:619.297.1674 www.andrew.cmu.edu/~spav
    ]] [[ paced Ursuline nil us rude cap ]]

  2. Steven Elliot Pav <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    there is no elevator etiquette in universities. you're doing well if someone

    doing well.

    in an office building i just roll it in against a wall. if the elevator is full i catch the next
    one. i probably wouldn't do what you're doing tho, it's kind of hard to control. both wheels on the
    ground, imho.
    --
    david reuteler [email hidden]

  3. Steven Elliot Pav said:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my office in the elevator. i
    always walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the front wheel up. my feeling has been that this
    is the right way to go, since it takes up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little
    crowded) elevator. a man who may or may not be an upper-up in my department (gulp) started
    pestering me about how i nearly took his nose off, and my bicycle was a weapon, and i should not
    walk the bicycle in this way. i didn't realize that i may have committed a faux pas until i was
    off the elevator, safely away from this man.

    Make a tyre track print on his white shirt next time.

    --

    QUIPd 1.02: (125 of 674) -> The reason I use Linux is because I've used Windows.
    ##2844 #'Mandrake Linux.'

  4. "David Reuteler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Steven Elliot Pav <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    there is no elevator etiquette in universities. you're doing well if


    someone

    are

    Quoted message said:

    doing well.

    in an office building i just roll it in against a wall. if the elevator is full i catch the next
    one. i probably wouldn't do what you're doing tho, it's kind of hard to control. both wheels on
    the ground, imho.
    --
    david reuteler [email hidden]

    What we have here is perception problems. Since the guy doing the [censored] thinks he's in danger,
    he is. The only thing on the bike that MAY be able to hurt him are the chainrings, but try
    telling him that!

    I'd say roll the bike with both wheels on the floor till you get to the elevator, then pull it up on
    the rear wheel, putting it in the corner or along the wall to take up less space.

    Mike

  5. I say do not put the one wheel up in the air. The true risk or the imagined risk of the bike being
    more apt to move around in the elavator is increased by not having both wheels on the floor.

    "Johann S." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Steven Elliot Pav said:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my


    office

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in the elevator. i always walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the


    front

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    wheel up. my feeling has been that this is the right way to go, since


    it takes

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    up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little crowded) elevator.


    a man

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    who may or may not be an upper-up in my department (gulp) started


    pestering me

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about how i nearly took his nose off, and my bicycle was a weapon, and


    i

    Quoted message said:
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    should not walk the bicycle in this way. i didn't realize that i may


    have

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    committed a faux pas until i was off the elevator, safely away from


    this man.

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    Make a tyre track print on his white shirt next time.

    --

    QUIPd 1.02: (125 of 674) -> The reason I use Linux is because I've used Windows.
    ##2844 #'Mandrake Linux.'

  6. "Mike S." <mikeshaw2@coxDOTnet> wrote in message news:O5atb.1487$6G3.522@fed1read06...

    Quoted message said:

    "David Reuteler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Steven Elliot Pav <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    : what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    there is no elevator etiquette in universities. you're doing well if


    someone

    Quoted message said:

    are

    Quoted message said:

    doing well.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in an office building i just roll it in against a wall. if the elevator is full i catch the next
    one. i probably wouldn't do what you're doing tho, it's kind of hard to control. both wheels on
    the ground, imho.

    Quoted message said:

    What we have here is perception problems. Since the guy doing the [censored] thinks he's in danger,
    he is. The only thing on the bike that MAY be able to hurt him are the chainrings, but try telling
    him that!

    Seems to me this guy was just being a jerk. Such people make a big deal out of anything and
    everything in their line of fire. You can't win with them. They're the ones with the problem, not
    you. IME, universities are full of people like this -- self-important, socially stunted, immature
    dweebs. Just try to fly low, and avoid the radar.

    Matt O.

  7. Steven Elliot Pav said:

    what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    Whenever folks in Wean Hall (I dunno what building you are talking about) bring bikes into
    elevators, they seem to do this:

    a) wait for an elevator that is relatively uncrowded. The only time elevators are crowded is during
    undergrad class changes, and that is only 5 minutes out of every hour.

    b) roll it in on both wheels, and put it along the back wall out of everyone's way.

    I have never had someone complain when I have done this or when I have seen anyone else do this.

    Chris
    --
    Chris Colohan Email: [email hidden] PGP: finger [email hidden] Web: www.colohan.com Phone:
    (412)268-4751

  8. "Steven Elliot Pav" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    perhaps this is off topic:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my office in the elevator. i
    always walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the


    front

    Quoted message said:

    wheel up. my feeling has been that this is the right way to go, since it


    takes

    Quoted message said:

    up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little crowded) elevator. a


    man

    Quoted message said:

    who may or may not be an upper-up in my department (gulp) started


    pestering me

    Quoted message said:

    about how i nearly took his nose off, and my bicycle was a weapon, and i should not walk the
    bicycle in this way. i didn't realize that i may have committed a faux pas until i was off the
    elevator, safely away from this


    man.

    Quoted message said:

    the question: did i done wrong? my bicycle is relatively clean at the


    moment,

    Quoted message said:

    mostly unobtrusive, and i am careful to hover near the chaindrive so that


    my

    Quoted message said:

    body blocks others from grease stains. in short, i believe i am being a


    decent

    Quoted message said:

    citizen in the elevator, and have never had this kind of problem before. for background, this is
    an institute of higher learning, and not, say,


    wall

    Quoted message said:

    street or corporate america. and for irrelevant background, its a 99


    bianchi

    Quoted message said:

    volpe. what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    Take the stairs 🙂

    Bill "two wheels if people there; one if empty" S.

  9. Steven Elliot Pav said:

    volpe. what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    I imagine that you're expected to park your vehicle outside. 🙁
    --
    Rick Onanian

  10. Steven Elliot Pav said:

    perhaps this is off topic:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my office in the elevator. i
    always walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the front wheel up. my feeling has been that this
    is the right way to go, since it takes up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little crowded)
    elevator. a man who may or may not be an upper-up in my department (gulp) started pestering me
    about how i nearly took his nose off, and my bicycle was a weapon, and i should not walk the
    bicycle in this way. i didn't realize that i may have committed a faux pas until i was off the
    elevator, safely away from this man. the question: did i done wrong? my bicycle is relatively
    clean at the moment, mostly unobtrusive, and i am careful to hover near the chaindrive so that my
    body blocks others from grease stains. in short, i believe i am being a decent citizen in the
    elevator, and have never had this kind of problem before. for background, this is an institute of
    higher learning, and not, say, wall street or corporate america. and for irrelevant background,
    its a 99 bianchi volpe. what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    Leave all wheels on the floor and make the stuckup snob walk because the elevator is full. It's not
    really your problem so why make one.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

  11. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Steven Elliot P
    perhaps this is off topic:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my office in the elevator. i always
    walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the front wheel up. my feeling has been that this is the
    right way to go, since it takes up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little crowded)
    elevator. a man who may or may not be an upper-up in my department (gulp) started pestering me about
    how i nearly took his nose off, and my bicycle was a weapon, and i should not walk the bicycle in
    this way. i didn't realize that i may have committed a faux pas until i was off the elevator, safely
    away from this man. the question: did i done wrong? my bicycle is relatively clean at the moment,
    mostly unobtrusive, and i am careful to hover near the chaindrive so that my body blocks others from
    grease stains. in short, i believe i am being a decent citizen in the elevator, and have never had
    this kind of problem before. for background, this is an institute of higher learning, and not, say,
    wall street or corporate america. and for irrelevant background, its a 99 bianchi volpe. what's the
    elevator etiquette for universities?

    --sep

    [[ love me, love my hobby. -- j. dahmer ]] [[ steven.e.pav p:619.297.1674 www.andrew.cmu.edu/~spav
    ]] [[ paced Ursuline nil us rude cap ]]


    If you can't take the stairs then:
    1. keep the bike with both wheels on the floor.
    2. try to time it to be first in and last out (difficult to do if you are going to a lower floor)
    3. see if there is a freight elevator
    4. recognize that some people have negative attitudes

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps this is off topic: i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my
    office in the elevator. i always walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the front wheel up. my
    feeling has been that this is the right way to go, since it


    takes

    Quoted message said:

    up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little crowded) elevator. a man who may or may not be
    an upper-up in my department (gulp) started pestering me about how i nearly took his nose off, and
    my bicycle was a weapon, and i should not walk the bicycle in this way. i didn't realize that i may
    have committed a faux pas until i was off the elevator, safely away from this man. the question:
    did i done wrong? my bicycle is relatively clean at the moment, mostly unobtrusive, and i am
    careful to hover near the chaindrive so that my body blocks others from grease stains. in short, i
    believe i am being a


    decent

    Quoted message said:

    citizen in the elevator, and have never had this kind of problem before. for background, this is an
    institute of higher learning, and not, say, wall street or corporate america. and for irrelevant
    background, its a 99 bianchi volpe. what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    Was your bike in his face? If you think it is someone you need to be extra nice to, just
    apologize, even if it is not your fault. It takes little effort. Next time you could just keep the
    wheels on the floor and roll the bike in. It takes more floor space, but it keeps the dirty bits
    of the bike down low.
    ------------
    Alex

  13. "Steven Elliot Pav" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps this is off topic:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my office in the elevator.

    Both wheels on the floor, block the door. Enjoy the whole elevator to yourself.

    Mike - But I'm 'that' guy. ;^)

  14. Steven Elliot Pav <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps this is off topic:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my office in the elevator. i
    always walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the front wheel up. my feeling has been that this
    is the right way to go, since it takes up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little crowded)
    elevator. a man who may or may not be an upper-up in my department (gulp) started pestering me
    about how i nearly took his nose off, and my bicycle was a weapon, and i should not walk the
    bicycle in this way. i didn't realize that i may have committed a faux pas until i was off the
    elevator, safely away from this man. the question: did i done wrong? my bicycle is relatively
    clean at the moment, mostly unobtrusive, and i am careful to hover near the chaindrive so that my
    body blocks others from grease stains. in short, i believe i am being a decent citizen in the
    elevator, and have never had this kind of problem before. for background, this is an institute of
    higher learning, and not, say, wall street or corporate america. and for irrelevant background,
    its a 99 bianchi volpe. what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    --sep

    Dear Steven,

    If you waved your front wheel in his face, he's right to complain, ya clumsy, thoughtless--

    But if you didn't, he's probably just the sort of fellow who frowns at people in wheelchairs, is
    impatient behind people using walkers, and is outraged by anyone carrying an oxygen tank. Such
    fellows also dislike guide dogs, children, and smiles. Luckily, their punishment is to be what they
    are. Who would trade places with them?

    Miss Manners

  15. Steven Elliot Pav <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps this is off topic:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my office in the elevator. i
    always walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the front wheel up. my feeling has been that this
    is the right way to go, since it takes up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little crowded)
    elevator

    i do like you do, or did at least for two years while the bikes and elevators in my life coincided.
    back wheel is the way to go. the hardest part for me was resisting purposefully bumping my front
    wheel against the walls and making tire print patterns all over the place. also, as i was almost
    always going to be the last person to get off, i found it greatly helpful to ask to go on first,
    being against the wall with your bike you take up a lot less room.

    or take the stairs.. 'cross training!

    anthony

  16. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Steven Elliot Pav said:

    volpe. what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    I imagine that you're expected to park your vehicle outside. 🙁

    Not everywhere. I roll my bike into the building and park it in my cubicle.
    ----------
    Alex

  17. You should have tweaked this fellow's nose with your front tire. This would have demonstrated how
    taking one's nose off with a bicycle tire is just not possible.

    Jeff

    "Steven Elliot Pav" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps this is off topic:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my office in the elevator. i
    always walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the


    front

    Quoted message said:

    wheel up. my feeling has been that this is the right way to go, since it


    takes

    Quoted message said:

    up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little crowded) elevator. a


    man

    Quoted message said:

    who may or may not be an upper-up in my department (gulp) started


    pestering me

    Quoted message said:

    about how i nearly took his nose off, and my bicycle was a weapon, and i should not walk the
    bicycle in this way. i didn't realize that i may have committed a faux pas until i was off the
    elevator, safely away from this


    man.

    Quoted message said:

    the question: did i done wrong? my bicycle is relatively clean at the


    moment,

    Quoted message said:

    mostly unobtrusive, and i am careful to hover near the chaindrive so that


    my

    Quoted message said:

    body blocks others from grease stains. in short, i believe i am being a


    decent

    Quoted message said:

    citizen in the elevator, and have never had this kind of problem before. for background, this is
    an institute of higher learning, and not, say,


    wall

    Quoted message said:

    street or corporate america. and for irrelevant background, its a 99


    bianchi

    Quoted message said:

    volpe. what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    --sep

    [[ love me, love my hobby. -- j. dahmer ]] [[ steven.e.pav p:619.297.1674 www.andrew.cmu.edu/~spav
    ]] [[ paced Ursuline nil us rude cap ]]

  18. RE/

    Quoted message said:

    a man who may or may not be an upper-up in my department (gulp) started pestering me about how i
    nearly took his nose off, and my bicycle was a weapon, and i

    There are wackos in high places as well as low.

    Read the biography of General Douglas McArthur ("Douglas McArthur, The American Caesar" ...or
    something like that...) sometime....
    --
    PeteCresswell

  19. Steven Elliot Pav said:

    perhaps this is off topic:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my office in the elevator. i
    always walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the front wheel up. my feeling has been that this
    is the right way to go, since it takes up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little crowded)
    elevator. a man who may or may not be an upper-up in my department (gulp) started pestering me

    At that point get out the butcher knife you carry and start sharpening
    it. Mumble "yes, he's the one."

    Quoted message said:

    about how i nearly took his nose off, and my bicycle was a weapon, and i should not walk the
    bicycle in this way. i didn't realize that i may have committed a faux pas until i was off the
    elevator, safely away from this man.

    Let's see: You saved space on the highways, didn't use a parking spot and didn't pollute with
    exhaust fumes. What faux pas are you talking about?

    Quoted message said:

    the question: did i done wrong? my bicycle is relatively clean at the moment,

    The muckety-muck just likes to throw his weight around. Tell him you are a male lesbian doing
    native American performance art to celebrate the birth of socialism. Anything he says after that is
    clearly racist

    can have him fired.

    Quoted message said:

    mostly unobtrusive, and i am careful to hover near the chaindrive so that my body blocks others
    from grease stains. in short, i believe i am being a decent citizen in the elevator, and have never
    had this kind of problem before. for background, this is an institute of higher learning, and not,
    say, wall street or corporate america. and for irrelevant background, its a 99 bianchi volpe.
    what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    Seriously, the guy has a problem. If you didn't have the bike he would have found some other excuse
    or dumped on the next person in his path.

    Quoted message said:

    --sep

    [[ love me, love my hobby. -- j. dahmer ]] [[ steven.e.pav p:619.297.1674 www.andrew.cmu.edu/~spav
    ]] [[ paced Ursuline nil us rude cap ]]

  20. Quoted message said:

    i had a bit of a runin this morning when taking my bicycle up to my office in the elevator. i
    always walk the bike in on the rear wheel, with the


    front

    Quoted message said:

    wheel up. my feeling has been that this is the right way to go, since it


    takes

    Quoted message said:

    up far less floor space in the (sometimes a little crowded) elevator. a


    man

    Yes. This is what I usually did.

    Quoted message said:

    who may or may not be an upper-up in my department (gulp) started


    pestering me

    Quoted message said:

    about how i nearly took his nose off, and my bicycle was a weapon, and i should not walk the
    bicycle in this way. i didn't realize that i may have

    He has a point, albeit weak.

    Quoted message said:

    committed a faux pas until i was off the elevator, safely away from this


    man.

    Quoted message said:

    the question: did i done wrong? my bicycle is relatively clean at the


    moment,

    Quoted message said:

    mostly unobtrusive, and i am careful to hover near the chaindrive so that


    my

    Quoted message said:

    body blocks others from grease stains. in short, i believe i am being a


    decent

    Quoted message said:

    citizen in the elevator, and have never had this kind of problem before. for background, this is
    an institute of higher learning, and not, say,


    wall

    Quoted message said:

    street or corporate america. and for irrelevant background, its a 99


    bianchi

    Quoted message said:

    volpe. what's the elevator etiquette for universities?

    I used to ride my bike around my dorm and have crits and stuff. I was reported once, but that only
    changed me behavior around housing admins and the cleaning ladies.

    As others have said, apologize and try not to let it get to you. If in your position, I'd accept the
    person's argument and not make too big of a deal about it.

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training

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