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  1. "Adam Weiss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Lou Minatti said:

    [email hidden] (J Young) wrote in message


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    This subject has been broached before and must be addressed again. The
    greatest hazard posed to the traveling public are bicycle riders. All
    the environmental advantages presented by bicyclists are nullified by
    the reckless abandon in which they travel. Traffic laws are ignored;
    courtesy being an afterthought. Our elderly citizens take their lives
    in their hands every time they venture downtown. Bicycles should be
    restricted to parks within the city limits.

    Bicyclists enjoy the same rights as motorists. The problem is the city
    and county have done a lousy job of providing shoulders and sidewalks.

    The idea in Houston is to cram more lanes on the same amount of
    pavement. Shoulders are eliminated. Lanes narrowed. It sometimes
    feels like the engineers laying out our roads don't actually use them.

    The situation for bicyclists and drivers alike is getting worse. And
    worse even is the fact that there is no hope for it getting better.
    There is no unified vision for Houston's roads and transit system -
    thanks to the five separate departments in charge of it.

  2. This subject has been broached before and must be addressed again. The
    greatest hazard posed to the traveling public are CARS. All
    the environmental advantages presented by CAR DRIVERS are nullified by
    the reckless abandon in which they travel. Traffic laws are ignored;
    courtesy being an afterthought. Our elderly citizens take their lives
    in their hands every time they venture downtown.
    CARS should be restricted to parks within the city limits.

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    Above address is just a spam midden.
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  3. Quoted message said:
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    >This subject has been broached before and must be addressed again. The
    >greatest hazard posed to the traveling public are bicycle riders. All
    >the environmental advantages presented by bicyclists are nullified by
    >the reckless abandon in which they travel. Traffic laws are ignored;
    >courtesy being an afterthought. Our elderly citizens take their lives
    >in their hands every time they venture downtown. Bicycles should be
    >restricted to parks within the city limits.

    Eh. I never have a problem with them, and honestly the more people who ride
    bicycles the less people creating traffic problems for me. Besides, I think
    a bigger problem in Austin is pedestrians who don't obey cross walks.
    Bicycles seems like a really stupid issue to be worried about, but I guess
    triviality is the product of privilege. Find something more meaningful to
    [censored] about.

    -J

  4. David said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>This subject has been broached before and must be addressed again. The
    >>greatest hazard posed to the traveling public are bicycle riders. All
    >>the environmental advantages presented by bicyclists are nullified by
    >>the reckless abandon in which they travel. Traffic laws are ignored;
    >>courtesy being an afterthought. Our elderly citizens take their lives
    >>in their hands every time they venture downtown. Bicycles should be
    >>restricted to parks within the city limits.

    Eh. I never have a problem with them, and honestly the more people who ride
    bicycles the less people creating traffic problems for me. Besides, I think
    a bigger problem in Austin is pedestrians who don't obey cross walks.
    Bicycles seems like a really stupid issue to be worried about, but I guess
    triviality is the product of privilege. Find something more meaningful to
    [censored] about.

    In psychology it's called transference. "There's a problem with
    too many cars. But I like my car, therefore I need to find
    something else to blame the problem on."

    --
    Steven O'Neill [email hidden]

  5. Steven M. O'Neill said:
    David said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>This subject has been broached before and must be addressed again. The
    >>>greatest hazard posed to the traveling public are bicycle riders. All
    >>>the environmental advantages presented by bicyclists are nullified by
    >>>the reckless abandon in which they travel. Traffic laws are ignored;
    >>>courtesy being an afterthought. Our elderly citizens take their lives
    >>>in their hands every time they venture downtown. Bicycles should be
    >>>restricted to parks within the city limits.

    Eh. I never have a problem with them, and honestly the more people who ride
    bicycles the less people creating traffic problems for me. Besides, I think
    a bigger problem in Austin is pedestrians who don't obey cross walks.
    Bicycles seems like a really stupid issue to be worried about, but I guess
    triviality is the product of privilege. Find something more meaningful to
    [censored] about.

    In psychology it's called transference. "There's a problem with
    too many cars. But I like my car, therefore I need to find
    something else to blame the problem on."

    I thought with transference you fell in love with your therapist? ;-)

    Steve

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  6. "Chuckie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    The idea in Houston is to cram more lanes on the same amount of
    pavement. Shoulders are eliminated. Lanes narrowed. It sometimes
    feels like the engineers laying out our roads don't actually use them.

    The situation for bicyclists and drivers alike is getting worse. And
    worse even is the fact that there is no hope for it getting better.
    There is no unified vision for Houston's roads and transit system -
    thanks to the five separate departments in charge of it.

    In Philly the bikers are allowed to ride on the oversized sidewalks.
    But the drivers here are nuts. Almost got run down by a bus.
    and yes, I was on the sidewalk at the time, he was taking a shortcut.

  7. On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:39:21 -0500, "Tenzo" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Chuckie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    The idea in Houston is to cram more lanes on the same amount of
    pavement. Shoulders are eliminated. Lanes narrowed. It sometimes
    feels like the engineers laying out our roads don't actually use them.

    The situation for bicyclists and drivers alike is getting worse. And
    worse even is the fact that there is no hope for it getting better.
    There is no unified vision for Houston's roads and transit system -
    thanks to the five separate departments in charge of it.

    In Philly the bikers are allowed to ride on the oversized sidewalks.
    But the drivers here are nuts. Almost got run down by a bus.
    and yes, I was on the sidewalk at the time, he was taking a shortcut.

    Apparently the buses are also allowed to drive on the oversized
    sidewalks?

  8. Tenzo said:


    In Philly the bikers are allowed to ride on the oversized sidewalks.
    But the drivers here are nuts. Almost got run down by a bus.
    and yes, I was on the sidewalk at the time, he was taking a shortcut.


    Not true. Philadelphia City ordinance prohibits anyone over age 12 from
    riding on any sidewalk. In addition, Pennsylvania law prohibits anyone
    from riding a bike on a sidewalk in a "business district". I'm a little
    confused about where you might have been riding because there are very
    few oversized sidewalks, most sidewalks in the city are undersized even
    for pedestrian use. There are a small number of sidewalk style "multi
    use paths" through parts of the park system. In general sidewalk riding
    is a bad idea, it is less safe for you and is extremely rude to
    pedestrians which makes all cyclists look bad.

    Leland Mayne
    [email hidden]

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