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I really don't understand the mentality of the people who do this.🙁

They don't have one. That's the problem.

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Hi, been lurking for a while now, and like the comments from the group.

Welcome

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Why do these idiots think that its fun to ruin someone's chosen form of transport?

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Partly because you dare to be different -- challenging the accepted norms by using a bicycle as a
form of transport.

Partly because they are mindless morons.

Partly because virtually nowhere in this country provides adequate, secure bike parking for its
clients/customers (because we dare to be different).

Nihil illegitemae carborundum

T

SimonC said:

Sorry to enter the group on such a downer but I really don't understand the mentality of the
people who do this.🙁

They're just jealous because you have a bike and they only have a MkII Astra with blue lights for
the windscreen washers and no exhaust pipe;-)

Tony

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Why do these idiots think that its fun to ruin someone's chosen form of transport?

Sounds more like they were trying to steal it and couldn't, so took out their frustration
on the bike.

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Ack! Nasty business. I hope the gonads of whoever did it, wither, go gangrenous & drop off...

helen s

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SimonC said:

Why do these idiots think that its fun to ruin someone's chosen form of transport? Unfortunately,
there are no cameras outside this club even though it is well lit, and I don't have any insurance
that I can claim from.

Is acts like this that put me off using my bike for non-recreational purposes such as shopping where
I have to leave it in a public place.

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

Ack! Nasty business. I hope the gonads of whoever did it, wither, go gangrenous & drop off...

so, not only was it a car driver but a bloke as well?

(;-)

pk

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Is acts like this that put me off using my bike for non-recreational purposes such as shopping
where I have to leave it in a public place.

I have never had a bike stolen, interfered with or damaged when parked in public.

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Just zis Guy said:

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Is acts like this that put me off using my bike for non-recreational purposes such as shopping
where I have to leave it in a public place.

I have never had a bike stolen, interfered with or damaged when parked in public.

I have only[1] had some brake blocks stolen when I was a student, but I believe deepest West
Yorkshire in the 21st Century is more crime riddled than Reading University campus in the '80s. Like
the OP I would be very angry and upset if any of my bikes were vandalised or stolen.

[1] Someone stole my tools from my saddle bag in Sydney.

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

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so, not only was it a car driver but a bloke as well?

No - we women have gonads too - in men the gonads are the testes, in women, the ovaries. Check
your dictionary :-)

LOL

But you were a tad more specicic, "...drop off..." suggests male gonands!

(;-)

pk

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Originally posted by Simonc
Sorry to enter the group on such a downer but I really don't understand the mentality of
the people who do this.🙁

It's a sad state of affairs when a young person like me (19) has already had a good few years of terminal despair over the state of the human race...

I don't understand either, and it makes me ashamed to be a member of the same species as the kind of person who commits this kind of inane act. The really depressing thing is that this is not an uncommon occurrence - there really are a large proportion of people out there, who are that inconsiderate and plain stupid!

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Originally posted by Simonc
Sorry to enter the group on such a downer but I really don't understand the mentality of
the people who do this.🙁

It's a sad state of affairs when a young person like me (19) has already had a good few years of terminal despair over the state of the human race...

I don't understand either, and it makes me ashamed to be a member of the same species as the kind of person who commits this kind of inane act. The really depressing thing is that this is not an uncommon occurrence - there really are a large proportion of people out there, who are that inconsiderate and plain stupid!

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Is acts like this that put me off using my bike for non-recreational purposes such as shopping
where I have to leave it in a public place.

I know this is tempting fate -- but six months ago I would have said exactly the same.

Now I regularly leave my bike locked to a railing or a Sheffield in town -- including near some
dubious places and fairly late in the evenings -- and, so far, and with the possible benefit of it
being either my 'old git' bike (my Galaxy) or my scaffolding pipe Indian ATB, no problem.

Currently there is NO WAY I would leave any bike at the station and no way I would want to leave any
bike looking abandoned (i.e. overnight in the wrong place).

But I have certainly relaxed about leaving a bike in town for a couple of hours.

T

PS -- I suppose I should now open a book on when it gets the treatment :~(

Just zis Guy said:

I have never had a bike stolen, interfered with or damaged when parked in public.

I've had my tyres let down, and I think that's the worst of it.

But I didn't go to the kayak club's pool session last night as the Brompton's currently away on
loan and I didn't want to leave either the MTB or the Streetmachine outside in the neighbourhood
where the school with the pool we use is. Part of the equation is knowing where you can safely
leave things...

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Peter Clinch said:

.... Part of the equation is knowing where you can safely leave things...

I'd agree with that but I am afraid I take the 'No Tolerance' approach and I'm prepared to take no
risks. Maybe I should get an old expendable mountain bike. Trouble is I hate riding [censored] bikes.

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MSeries said:

I'd agree with that but I am afraid I take the 'No Tolerance' approach and I'm prepared to take no
risks. Maybe I should get an old expendable mountain bike. Trouble is I hate riding [censored] bikes.

No, an old tourer will be better as it will look to most eeejits like a [censored] Bike anyway, because
it's totally unfashionable. I'm quite confident the 'bent won't get nicked (no market, joyriders
wouldn't even be sure if they could ride it) but it might get vandalised just because it's so
ostentatious (don't know it would, but like you say...). But a reasonably well looked after old
Galaxy or similar should be more or less immune to the ravages of fools and still be fine to ride.
As reported, I've had my tyres let down on my old tourer, but nothing worse.

If you'll take no risks at all with your bike then you can't ride it anywhere either, which rather
destroys the point! Having said that, if I'm going somewhere I don't like to leave the bike I take
the Brompton, fold it up and take it in with me. Problem solved. Plenty of utilitarian stops can be
effectively completely safe, even without "cheating" with the Brompton. Shopping at the local Tescos
it's in front of a constant stream of people and just along the way from the entrance CCTV and
security guard. I really can't see it getting vandalised there: vandals may be stupid, but not
*that* stupid...

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I am afraid I take the 'No Tolerance' approach and I'm prepared to take no risks. Maybe I should
get an old expendable

mountain

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bike. Trouble is I hate riding [censored] bikes.

The old standby of a decent 1980s lightweight tourer with a Hammerite paint job might do.

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Peter Clinch said:

MSeries said:

I'd agree with that but I am afraid I take the 'No Tolerance' approach and I'm prepared to
take no risks. Maybe I should get an old expendable mountain bike. Trouble is I hate riding
[censored] bikes.

No, an old tourer will be better as it will look to most eeejits like a [censored] Bike anyway, because
it's totally unfashionable. I'm quite confident the 'bent won't get nicked (no market,

I wouldn't be so confident. I forget the guy's name but a bloke on Tyneside had his recumbent nicked
from a locked shed. It has, as far as I know, not been recovered and is reckoned to have been stolen
to order, possibly shipped abroad. joyriders wouldn't even

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No, an old tourer will be better as it will look to most eeejits like a [censored] Bike anyway, because
it's totally unfashionable. I'm quite confident the 'bent won't get nicked (no market, joyriders
wouldn't even be sure if they could ride it) but it might get vandalised just because it's so
ostentatious (don't know it would, but like you say...). But a reasonably well looked after old
Galaxy or similar should be more or less immune to the ravages of fools and still be fine to ride.
As reported, I've had my tyres let down on my old tourer, but nothing worse.

I hope you are right 'cos that's exactly what I use. I'm a bit worried now that I have put a
nice shiney new honey Brooks B17 on it -- but then its not super soft gel so I'm hoping it will
remain in tact.

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If you'll take no risks at all with your bike then you can't ride it anywhere either, which rather
destroys the point! Having said that, if I'm going somewhere I don't like to leave the bike I take
the Brompton, fold it up and take it in with me. Problem solved.

I'm surprised at how many places you can take a bike in with you.

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Plenty of utilitarian stops can be effectively completely safe, even without "cheating" with the
Brompton. Shopping at the local Tescos it's in front of a constant stream of people and just along
the way from the entrance CCTV and security guard. I really can't see it getting vandalised there:
vandals may be stupid, but not *that* stupid...

I think it is worth knowing where the city centre CCTV points. Most of the jobs know so why park a
bike out of its range?

T