Bike ID please

I have a Miyata 912 that is late 70 or early 80 vintage and the frame looks very similar. Mine has all Shimano 600 series parts and araya wheels. I know they made one model above mine at the time called a team and it was about the color blue in your photos.

I took it all apart and cleaned and lubed everything this winter. When I got to the bottom bracket, I didn't have the right tool to remove it and I took it to my LBS. They opened it up for me and suggested I just replace the discrete bearings with a sealed standard BB which is what I did. Cost was @ $20.

Good luck with it.

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I took it all apart and cleaned and lubed everything this winter. When I got to the bottom
bracket, I didn't have the right tool to remove it and I took it to my LBS. They opened it up for
me and suggested I just replace the discrete bearings with a sealed standard BB which is what I
did. Cost was @ $20.

The BB itself is good. No real need to replace it. My concern is the shell... you see the condition
it's in, lol. But it's good that it looks like you didn't spend much to overhaul it.

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Phil, Squid-in-Training

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The BB itself is good. No real need to replace it. My concern is the shell... you see the
condition it's in, lol. But it's good that it looks like you didn't spend much to overhaul it.

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Phil, Squid-in-Training

Nice find, looks like it was salted at some point in its life.

Remove the components from the shell. Take a rotary wire brush in a drill and attack the shell to
remove the bubbled paint and rust and see what is left. Take care not to f the threads. With the
drainage holes it should be easy to see how much meat is left.

My guess is that it looks worse than it is, rust expands like crazy. Check with a sharp awl for any
"soft" spots or holes. If you don't find any problems rust primer and paint should work for a
campus cruiser.

Coat the f out of all the inside of the frame, even the seat and chainstays with heated boiled
linseed oil or framesaver

Good luck,

Marcus

"Even the serial is partly missing."

That's always a good sign....

Well, it is an old frame. Good luck with it. If you do clean it up make sure you use some
Frame Saver.

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I have a new acquisition. It's a Miyata from who-knows-when. Here are

the

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stats:

/miyata.html"]http://plaza.ufl.edu/phillee/[censored]/miyata.html

Hubs: Campy Spokes: DT straight Rims: Arc-en-something 700c (need help) QRs: Campy Brake levers:
Superbe/AME Shifters: Shimano 600 Tires: Clement CF2001 Bars: Cinelli Stem: Cinelli Cranks:
Superbe Freewheel: ? Chain: ? (too greasy to read) Front Der: Suntour Rear Der: Suntour Brakes: I
forget Seat: I forget Seatpost: I think it's actually steel painted grey to look like alum.
Headset: Shimano 600

Frame/Fork: Miyata (model name?????)

I would really like to know when this bike was made, and which model it might be. Does anyone have
a clue about this bike? Specifically the

rims,

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brake levers, and frame model.

Next, is that BB shell going to fail? It's got a lot of rust on it, and

I'm

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wondering if the gurus here think that it's not salvageable. Even the serial is partly missing.
Should I scrub that area clean and paint it

back

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up? This will most likely be a campus commuter and probably will be

sitting

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in the rain often.

And finally, how much would it be worth to sell now? $100? $150 even?

I'm

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sure that if I kept it in decent working order, it'd be worth more later, huh?

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Phil said:

I have a new acquisition. It's a Miyata from who-knows-when. Here are the stats:

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/miyata.html"]http://plaza.ufl.edu/phillee/[censored]/miyata.html

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I would really like to know when this bike was made, and which model it might be. Does anyone have
a clue about this bike? Specifically the rims, brake levers, and frame model.

I'd guess at late seventies to early eighties. The rims are Super Champion 'Arc-en-Ciel' model
(French for 'rainbow'😉. The Clement tyres are tubulars, glued to the rims. The hubs are Campagnolo
Nuovo Tipo. The brake levers are Suntour Superbe with AME hoods. No idea about the frame model,
I'm afraid.

If you want to narrow the date down, look for date codes on the components - for example on the rear
of the brake calipers. Campag hubs often have a date code stamped on the cone locknuts, but the
wheels are probably not original to the bike.

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Next, is that BB shell going to fail? It's got a lot of rust on it, and I'm wondering if the gurus
here think that it's not salvageable. Even the serial is partly missing. Should I scrub that area
clean and paint it back up? This will most likely be a campus commuter and probably will be
sitting in the rain often.

I don't think the BB shell is in any danger of failing, but it would be prudent to take off the rust
with a wire brush, sand back to bare metal, and give it a protective coat of paint.

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And finally, how much would it be worth to sell now? $100? $150 even?

Certainly sub-$100 I would say. Probably sub $50. But I don't know what factors might affect your
local market. Nothing on the bike is collectable.

James Thomson

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Thanks for the info/advice - will clean it up and get it looking new!

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Nice find, looks like it was salted at some point in its life.

Ah, that's possible. Seems like corrosives got under the paint at the gigantic drainage holes and
then expanded from there.

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Remove the components from the shell. Take a rotary wire brush in a drill and attack the shell to
remove the bubbled paint and rust and see what is left. Take care not to f the threads. With the
drainage holes it should be easy to see how much meat is left.

My guess is that it looks worse than it is, rust expands like crazy. Check with a sharp awl for
any "soft" spots or holes. If you don't find any problems rust primer and paint should work for a
campus cruiser.

Coat the f out of all the inside of the frame, even the seat and chainstays with heated boiled
linseed oil or framesaver

Thanks for all the advice!

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Phil, Squid-in-Training