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  1. Hello, I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have
    read some information on the web. However, like most things
    in life, there are variables and differing opinions on the
    subject. So, I wanted to post my questions, as I have a
    habit of over-analzying things, and would appreciate your
    input. I would like to hear your opinion(s) on the following
    criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile
    jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be
    durable enough for less-than-ideal road/weather conditions
    and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend, what
    would be a good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability
    issue, but is there a real difference between hybrids and
    mountain bikes for my described use (or associated premium
    with one or the other)? If I find myself using it regularly,
    I will invest in a custom bike, but for now I'd like to
    investigate various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts, Dave

  2. "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have
    read some information on the web. However, like most
    things in life, there are variables and differing opinions
    on the subject. So, I wanted to post my questions, as I
    have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    appreciate your input. I would like to hear your
    opinion(s) on the following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10
    mile jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement
    and be durable enough for less-than-ideal road/weather
    conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend,
    what would be a good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability
    issue, but is there a real difference between hybrids and
    mountain bikes for my described use (or associated premium
    with one or the other)? If I find myself using it
    regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but for now I'd
    like to investigate various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts, Dave

    Price Point ??

  3. (Dave) said:

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile
    jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be
    durable enough for less-than-ideal road/weather
    conditions and path/trail riding.

    bianchiusa.commilano.html

    ---
    "BitwiseBob" - Bob Anderson Eugene Oregon

  4. "Churchill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have
    read some information on the web. However, like most
    things in life, there are variables and differing
    opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post my
    questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things,
    and would appreciate your input. I would like to hear
    your opinion(s) on the following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10
    mile jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US)
    pavement and be durable enough for less-than-ideal
    road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend,
    what would be a good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the
    durability issue, but is there a real difference between
    hybrids and mountain bikes for my described use (or
    associated premium with one or the other)? If I find
    myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom
    bike, but for now I'd like to investigate various
    models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts, Dave

    Price Point ??

    How about cyclocross bikes?

  5. "dreaded" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Churchill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am looking for advice on buying a bike and
    have read some information on the web. However, like
    most things in life, there are variables and differing
    opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post my
    questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things,
    and would appreciate your input. I would like to hear
    your opinion(s) on the following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10
    mile jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US)
    pavement and be durable enough for less-than-ideal
    road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend,
    what would be a good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the
    durability issue, but is there a real difference
    between hybrids and mountain bikes for my described
    use (or associated premium with one or the other)? If
    I find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a
    custom bike, but for now I'd like to investigate
    various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts, Dave

    Price Point ??

    How about cyclocross bikes?


    I'd go for a cyclocross bike. Unless you need a suspension,
    it's the way to go. Even with the wide offroad tires I can
    keep up with my friends on their quality road bikes. I have
    a Fuji Cyclocross, but check out the other brands too.

    Dean

  6. [email hidden] (Dave) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have
    read some information on the web. However, like most
    things in life, there are variables and differing opinions
    on the subject. So, I wanted to post my questions, as I
    have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    appreciate your input. I would like to hear your
    opinion(s) on the following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10
    mile jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement
    and be durable enough for less-than-ideal road/weather
    conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend,
    what would be a good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability
    issue, but is there a real difference between hybrids and
    mountain bikes for my described use (or associated premium
    with one or the other)? If I find myself using it
    regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but for now I'd
    like to investigate various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts, Dave

    It sounds like you're planning to ride mostly on the
    pavement and maybe some trails now and then. For general
    fitness and trips to the store, I would go with a hybrid,
    like the Trek 7100 or the Giant Cypress. They'll be smoother
    on the pavement than a mountain bike and will handle a hard-
    packed trail just fine. But don't listen to me. Head down to
    your local bike shop, grab one of each, take them for a spin
    around the parking lot and see which one you like better.

    Good luck, Richard Stanz

  7. [email hidden] (Dave) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have
    read some information on the web. However, like most
    things in life, there are variables and differing opinions
    on the subject. So, I wanted to post my questions, as I
    have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    appreciate your input. I would like to hear your
    opinion(s) on the following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10
    mile jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement
    and be durable enough for less-than-ideal road/weather
    conditions and path/trail riding.

    The more upright you are the more likely you are to be more
    comfortable. Upright positions are more achievable with a
    hybrid or mountain bike. I've seen bar ends mounted in such
    ways that the rider is seated pretty vertical. Avoid really
    wide saddles. They get you sweaty and itchy. Use a wide tire
    that doesn't require a very high pressure. Softer tires make
    for a smoother ride. However it does slow you down.

    Quoted message said:


    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend,
    what would be a good "starter" model?

    Look around for what is available at a garage sale. If
    you end up riding you can always upgrade. And if you
    don't you haven't spent a lot of dollars. In the end it
    is the components that make up the bulk of reliability.
    The frame will be fine long after the derailer needs
    service. Therefore go with a frame that you feel
    comfortable on and that has good componants. Either
    Shimano or Campy will do you good.

    Quoted message said:


    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability
    issue, but is there a real difference between hybrids and
    mountain bikes for my described use (or associated premium
    with one or the other)?

    All bikes manufactured these days are pretty reliable
    (excepting k-mart specials and such). If your frame breaks
    then it is a fault of the manufacturer. A typical road frame
    will be able to take the abuse you'd likely give it on your
    10 mile jaunts.

    The largest real difference in your application is the wheel
    size between a mountain bike and a hybrid. Mountain bikes
    use smaller diameter wheels. While a hybrid will use a
    larger diameter wheel. Mountain bikes will usually be sold
    with knobby tires which slow you down on pavement. Hybrids
    tend to be sold with a light tread or slick tire which roll
    better on pavement. Don't get a bike with heavy duty shocks.
    You won't need them on the road.

    If I

    Quoted message said:

    find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom
    bike, but for now I'd like to investigate various models,
    brands, etc.

    Off the top of my head well known brands are Trek,
    Cannondale, GT, Giant.

    Enjoy the ride, Andy

    Quoted message said:


    Thank you for your thoughts, Dave

  8. Bob Anderson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 11 Jul 2004 15:31:24 -0700, [email hidden]

    (Dave) said:

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10
    mile jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement
    and be durable enough for less-than-ideal road/weather
    conditions and path/trail riding.

    bianchiusa.commilano.html

    Too expensive. This would work well for much less:
    electrabike.comess 12.html

    JD

  9. On 12 Jul 2004 11:12:13 -0700, [email hidden] (amh) wrote in
    message <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    The more upright you are the more likely you are to be more
    comfortable.

    Man, that is the exact opposite of the truth! If you want
    comfort you need to leave the uprights behind entirely!

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after
    posting. chapmancentral.co.ukchapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
    Washington University

  10. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Man, that is the exact opposite of the truth! If you want
    comfort you need to leave the uprights behind entirely!

    Couldn't agree more. I had no idea what was comfort was on a
    bicycle until I got my road bike last Feb.

    Dave

  11. Yes, cyclocros bike is good idea, and what about an titanium
    frame morati.comprodukce ramy cr11.htm
    becourse titanium frame is undestroyable... Sgt Pepper

    "Dean Slyter" <[email hidden]> pí¹e v diskusním
    pøíspìvku news:9dnIc.58617$a24.15395@attbi_s03...

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    "dreaded" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Churchill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news-
    :[email hidden]...
    > Hello, I am looking for advice on buying a bike and
    > have read some information on the web. However, like
    > most things in life, there are variables and
    > differing opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to
    > post my questions, as I have a habit of over-
    > analzying things, and would appreciate your input. I
    > would like to hear your opinion(s) on the following
    > criteria...
    >
    > - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for
    > 10 mile jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US)
    > pavement and be durable enough for less-than-ideal
    > road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.
    >
    > - Based on the style of bike that you would
    > recommend, what would be a good "starter" model?
    >
    > Road bikes seem out of the question due to the
    > durability issue, but is there a real difference
    > between hybrids and mountain bikes for my described
    > use (or associated premium with one or the other)?
    > If I find myself using it regularly, I will invest
    > in a custom bike, but for now I'd like to
    > investigate various models, brands, etc.
    >
    > Thank you for your thoughts, Dave

    Price Point ??

    How about cyclocross bikes?


    I'd go for a cyclocross bike. Unless you need a
    suspension, it's the way to go. Even with the wide offroad
    tires I can keep up with my friends on their quality road
    bikes. I have a Fuji Cyclocross, but check out the other
    brands too.

    Dean

  12. Stephen Baker said:

    <snip question>

    Try the rigid Specialized HardRock. Great for the road
    (change out the tyres for HardRock'rs since they roll
    better and are actually better in the dirt than the crud
    they sell them with) and it is fine on the dirt.

    Alas, the newer versions of the HardRock have gone a bit
    'freeridey' and are now a bit on the porky side.

  13. [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Bob Anderson <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 11 Jul 2004 15:31:24 -0700, [email hidden]

    (Dave) said:

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10
    mile jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US)
    pavement and be durable enough for less-than-ideal
    road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    bianchiusa.commilano.html

    Too expensive. This would work well for much less:
    electrabike.comess 12.html

    JD

    That wheelbase is way too short:
    kustomkruiser.comroadster.html /s

  14. "Churchill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have
    read some information on the web. However, like most
    things in life, there are variables and differing
    opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post my
    questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things,
    and would appreciate your input. I would like to hear
    your opinion(s) on the following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10
    mile jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US)
    pavement and be durable enough for less-than-ideal
    road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend,
    what would be a good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the
    durability issue, but is there a real difference between
    hybrids and mountain bikes for my described use (or
    associated premium with one or the other)? If I find
    myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom
    bike, but for now I'd like to investigate various
    models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts, Dave

    Price Point ??

    Churchill, I am hoping to receive responses that say
    something along the lines of..."for your described activity,
    you should get a mountain bike for these reasons...a, b, c,
    and the models of these types of bikes that are considered
    good quality for relatively low investment in this category
    would be x, y, z." Or, "a mountain bike generally carries a
    premium for your described activity and you should start
    with a hybrid." Or, "you're being too particular and should
    simply get the best-fit hybrid or MTB from the classifieds
    and then when you decide to spend money, you'll know how you
    use it and what you'd like to see in a better bike."
    Obviously, staying away from the WalMart brands that will
    break down and constantly need repair.

    TIA.

  15. Get a road bike that has enough clearance for slightly wider
    tires. Most of the lower range road bikes (under $500) have
    room for medium width tires.

    And find a shop that will fit you to the bike, or more
    correctly, fit the bike to you. And be prepared to get the
    fit adjusted over the next few thousand miles. The more you
    ride the more you will feel comfortable stretched out, or
    what some call leaning forward.

    Bruce

  16. "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Churchill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am looking for advice on buying a bike and
    have read some information on the web. However, like
    most things in life, there are variables and differing
    opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post my
    questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things,
    and would appreciate your input. I would like to hear
    your opinion(s) on the following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10
    mile jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US)
    pavement and be durable enough for less-than-ideal
    road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend,
    what would be a good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the
    durability issue, but is there a real difference
    between hybrids and mountain bikes for my described
    use (or associated premium with one or the other)? If
    I find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a
    custom bike, but for now I'd like to investigate
    various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts, Dave

    Price Point ??

    Churchill, I am hoping to receive responses that say
    something along the lines of..."for your described
    activity, you should get a mountain bike for these
    reasons...a, b, c, and the models of these types of bikes
    that are considered good quality for relatively low
    investment in this category would be x, y, z." Or, "a
    mountain bike generally carries a premium for your
    described activity and you should start with a hybrid."
    Or, "you're being too particular and should simply get the
    best-fit hybrid or MTB from the classifieds and then when
    you decide to spend money, you'll know how you use it and
    what you'd like to see in a better bike." Obviously,
    staying away from the WalMart brands that will break down
    and constantly need repair.

    TIA.

    MTBs range anywhere from $ 500 to $ 15,000 and u get what
    you pay for so price-point is an important start.

    Wally-Mart may has decent bikes for starters, depends on
    what you are looking for.

    Cordially

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:

    Hello,
    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile
    jaunts on relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be
    durable enough for less-than-ideal road/weather
    conditions and path/trail riding.

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the
    durability issue,

    A decent road bike will hold up fine ridding on dirt roads,
    jumping off curbs, etc. For rain and snow you want at least
    a rear fender if you care about having a black stripe up
    your back. Cyclocross tires are better with snow and can be
    had in a 28mm width that clears standard road brakes.

    A touring bike or cyclocross bike with road tires would
    work well.

    Straight bars become uncomfortable on longer rides, knobby
    tires slow you down and are loud, and bikes with suspension
    (mountain) are either heavy or expensive.

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