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  1. I used the CTC form letter to email my MEPs and got this response:

    "Thank you for your e-mail regarding cycles on trains and daytime running of
    headlights:  I reply to you on behalf of all three Conservative MEPs for the
    West Midlands region as I handle constituent queries from your area.

    The issue you raise on cycles is indeed part of the Third Rail package.
    Whilst we are generally in favour of such a measure being applicable overall
    to international journeys, the issue of legislation regarding domestic rail
    services should, in our view, be a matter for the national Governments of
    individual Member States.

    With regard to the daytime use of headlights, I very much note your concern
    regarding the possible effect on the safety of cyclists. We have yet to see
    the detail of the Commission proposals, but I can assure you that we will
    bear the comments of yourself and others very much in mind when we discuss
    the final text.

    Yours sincerely
    Malcolm Harbour MEP"

    Not much comfort there!

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  2. Alex Potter said the following on 11/12/2006 11:20:

    Quoted message said:

    Not much comfort there!

    Sounds like the sort of typical non-answer I've had from my local MP in
    the past. Lots of words with no content.

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  3. Alex Potter wrote on 11/12/2006 11:20 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    Not much comfort there!

    Apart from the usual we've noted your comments/passed them on the most
    amusing was the UKIP response that said:

    "Mr Titford has asked me to let you know that he is well aware of the
    safety issues in regard to motor vehicles being compelled to have
    running lights on at all times. UKIP has already spoken out against
    this nonsense and will continue to vigorously oppose it.

    He also promises to look into the question of the provision of cycle
    rail facilities on trains. We don't normally support EU legislation as
    the UKIP MEPs were elected on a platform of withdrawal from the EU.
    However, we will give serious consideration to supporting this measure,
    if our research tells us that it is good for cyclists, in the long term."

    They sound almost sane!

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  4. Tony Raven said:

    Apart from the usual we've noted your comments/passed them on the most
    amusing was the UKIP response that said:


    <snipped>

    I got a bounce from my UKIP chappie. No response so far from any of Bliar's
    lot.

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  5. Alex Potter said the following on 11/12/2006 15:09:

    Quoted message said:

    I got a bounce from my UKIP chappie. No response so far from any of Bliar's
    lot.

    I guess that was a deliberate spelling mistake :-)

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  6. On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:20:13 GMT, Alex Potter <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I used the CTC form letter to email my MEPs and got this response:

    This from one of my Labour MEPs:

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Thank you for your recent letter about daytime running lights (DRL).

    The idea of daytime running lights requires that all vehicles run with
    low intensity headlights turned on during daylight hours. The aim of this
    is to increase vehicle visibility and improve road safety.

    This is an idea which is soon likely to be given approval not by the
    European Union, but by the United Nations. In anticipation of this the
    European Union has started its own research as to how the idea could be
    taken on board in the EU. The European Commission has done this by
    launching a consultation with all groups involved in road transport.

    The consultation is still on going. The Department for Transport has
    taken part in this and made it clear the UK is opposed to the idea.

    For my part I am against DRLs for many reasons. Firstly, making cars run
    with headlights on will increase fuel consumption. This makes no sense at
    a time when we should be seriously trying to combat climate change. It
    will also increase costs for motorists.

    Daytime running lights on cars will also distract attention from
    vulnerable road users such as cyclists, motorbikes and pedestrians
    putting them at greater risk. This would compromise road safety rather
    than improve it.

    Finally, it makes no sense to have an EU law which would require drivers
    in Cyprus to drive with head lights on in the same way as a driver in
    Sweden for example.

    It is not yet guaranteed that this consultation will result in an EU law.
    However, I will continue to raise objections to this idea in European
    Parliament discussions on road safety.

    I hope you find this information useful.

    Mary Honeyball MEP for London
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Great news for DRLs, but what about bikes on trains?

  7. In message <[email hidden]>, Alex Potter
    <[email hidden]> quoted Malcolm Harbour MEP:

    Quoted message said:

    The issue you raise on cycles is indeed part of the Third Rail package.
    Whilst we are generally in favour of such a measure being applicable
    overall to international journeys, the issue of legislation regarding
    domestic rail services should, in our view, be a matter for the national
    Governments of individual Member States.

    Except most domestic rail services do form part of international journeys.
    Even if we exclude domestic services in origin and destination countries,
    that still leaves a lot of services, for example:

    London-Holyhead (eg Paris-Dublin)
    Paris-Cerebe (eg London-Barcelona)
    Cologne-Frankfurt (eg London-Belgrade)
    Venice-Syracuse (eg London-Malta)
    Syracuse-Pozzallo (eg London-Malta)

    An many more outside of the British Isles.

    Quoted message said:

    Yours sincerely
    Malcolm Harbour MEP

    Alex Potter> Not much comfort there!

    And a contradiction.

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