Bit Torrent and T. de F?

s said:

Is any public-spirited person recording daily Tour de
France programmes (ideally with Liggett/Sherwen
commentary) and then seeding them as video files available
through Bit Torrent? I've looked at sites like
torrents.co.uk and under "Sport" on
suprnova.orgsuprnova.orgOpen ↗ and haven't been able to find
anything.

Best regards, and thanks for any pointers

I see a bunch of tour de france stuff in newsgroups.

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7/4/2004
8:52 PM [GMT-8]

s said:

Hello All,

Is any public-spirited person recording daily Tour de
France programmes (ideally with Liggett/Sherwen
commentary) and then seeding them as video files available
through Bit Torrent? I've looked at sites like
torrents.co.uk and under "Sport" on
suprnova.orgsuprnova.orgOpen ↗ and haven't been able to find
anything.

Best regards, and thanks for any pointers,

Steve Pells Edinburgh, UK

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo equipment.
About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3 gig file. Uploading
such a huge file would take a lot of time and then to have
it spread all through the P2P networks so as to gather
enough sources for common folks like me to download, at a
decent speed, well by my calculations I'd still be
downloading this TDF when the next TDF comes around. I must
say I'm hard up to watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not
that hard up. I'd be willing to pay 10 bucks to watch a
video web cast of the TDF that has a constant stream of at
least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Kenny Lee

Kenny Lee said:

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo
equipment. About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3 gig
file. Uploading such a huge file would take a lot of
time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks
like me to download, at a decent speed, well by my
calculations I'd still be downloading this TDF when the
next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard up to watch
the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be
willing to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the
TDF that has a constant stream of at least 300k. Who
knows maybe next year.

Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked
about the DVD recordings I was making) that it would require
a minimum of around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs to capture
this year's Eurosport coverage of le Tour, and quite
possibly more than 60. Shipping that volume of data across
the net is not really feasible, never mind the very real
issues of copright violation ...

Philip Taylor

Philip TAYLOR PC87S/O-XP said:

Quoted message said:

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo
equipment. About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3 gig
file. Uploading such a huge file would take a lot of
time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks
like me to download, at a decent speed, well by my
calculations I'd still be downloading this TDF when the
next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard up to watch
the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be
willing to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the
TDF that has a constant stream of at least 300k. Who
knows maybe next year.

Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked
about the DVD recordings I was making) that it would
require a minimum of around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs to
capture this year's Eurosport coverage of le Tour, and
quite possibly more than 60. Shipping that volume of data
across the net is not really feasible, never mind the very
real issues of copright violation ...

What he's asking about is entirely practical, it's already
being done for lots of TV broadcast stuff.

There is no need for DVD quality when watching this kind of
coverage, with divX and similar encoding methods the file
sizes are perfectly manageable.

You can currently download all sorts of TV programs, both
the very latest new stuff (such as american shows not yet
aired in UK) and vintage stuff too. P2P networks like Bit
Torrent and, my personal preference, usenet binary groups
work very well.

Granted, the Tour would mean several hours coverage a day so
it would be fairly demanding, but nothing spectacularly
outrageous.

For people who choose this method of delivery it's perfectly
common to download several gigs of data a day. *shrug*
--

"Bob"

'The people have spoken, the [censored]'

Email address is spam trapped. To reply directly remove
the beverage.

I've recorded the past few TdFs to digital tape, editing out
the commercials.

This year, I'm thinking of going straight to DVD and
skipping the digital tape. Right now, I have stages 1 & 2 on
my HDD taking up 65 gigs in DV format. I'm encoding stage 1
to MPEG2 right now to fit on a single DVD-R. It should take
about 15 hours.

I download DVDs all the time. It's not a big deal if you
have cable modem.

Kenny Lee said:

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo equipment.
About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3 gig file.
Uploading such a huge file would take a lot of time and
then to have it spread all through the P2P networks so as
to gather enough sources for common folks like me to
download, at a decent speed, well by my calculations I'd
still be downloading this TDF when the next TDF comes
around. I must say I'm hard up to watch the TDF on the tube
but I'm not that hard up. I'd be willing to pay 10 bucks to
watch a video web cast of the TDF that has a constant
stream of at least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Kenny Lee

"Philip TAYLOR [PC87S/O-XP]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Kenny Lee said:

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo
equipment. About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3 gig
file. Uploading such a huge file would take a lot of
time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
networks so as to gather enough sources for common folks
like me to download, at a decent speed, well by my
calculations I'd still be downloading this TDF when the
next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard up to watch
the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up. I'd be
willing to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the
TDF that has a constant stream of at least 300k. Who
knows maybe next year.

Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked
about the DVD recordings I was making) that it would
require a minimum of around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs to
capture this year's Eurosport coverage of le Tour, and
quite possibly more than 60. Shipping that volume of data
across the net is not really feasible, never mind the very
real issues of copright violation ...

I don't see why people think I'm mad. (On this topic, at
least). Every Euro '04 game for example was made available
the day it was broadcast. A football match is upwards of 90
minutes; the files are about a CD in size (~700 MB). How
long are ITV2's programmes, about an hour? Over a broadband
connection a reasonably-popular TV programme file of this
size downloads in a few hours-it's finished before you get
up in the morning.

Odd that cyclists, so many of whom seem to pride themselves
on their technical expertise, find a project beyond them
that a bunch of lagered-up soccer fans have no trouble with.
Perhaps I should have posted on rec.bicycles.tech.

Oh well, maybe next year.

Steve

Steve Pells, Edinburgh, UK

Try searching on SuprNova again. Stage 3 and 4 were seeded.

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"Philip TAYLOR [PC87S/O-XP]" <[email hidden]> wrote
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Quoted message said:

Kenny Lee said:

Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo
equipment. About a 3 hour program. That's about a 3
gig file. Uploading such a huge file would take a lot
of time and then to have it spread all through the P2P
networks so as to gather enough sources for common
folks like me to download, at a decent speed, well by
my calculations I'd still be downloading this TDF when
the next TDF comes around. I must say I'm hard up to
watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not that hard up.
I'd be willing to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web
cast of the TDF that has a constant stream of at least
300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who asked
about the DVD recordings I was making) that it would
require a minimum of around 57 individual 4,7Gb DVD-Rs
to capture this year's Eurosport coverage of le Tour,
and quite possibly more than 60. Shipping that volume of
data across the net is not really feasible, never mind
the very real issues of copright violation ...

I don't see why people think I'm mad. (On this topic, at
least). Every Euro '04 game for example was made available
the day it was broadcast. A football match is upwards of
90 minutes; the files are about a CD in size (~700 MB).
How long are ITV2's programmes, about an hour? Over a
broadband connection a reasonably-popular TV programme
file of this size downloads in a few hours-it's finished
before you get up in the morning.

Odd that cyclists, so many of whom seem to pride
themselves on their technical expertise, find a project
beyond them that a bunch of lagered-up soccer fans have no
trouble with. Perhaps I should have posted on
rec.bicycles.tech.

Oh well, maybe next year.

Steve

Steve Pells, Edinburgh, UK

Yes!

And stage 5 has been seeded as well...

Many thanks to those seeding files!

Cheers

Steve

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Try searching on SuprNova again. Stage 3 and 4 were
seeded.

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news:<[email hidden]>...

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"Philip TAYLOR [PC87S/O-XP]" <[email hidden]> wrote
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Kenny Lee wrote:

> Let's see. Record TDF stage to Mpeg 2 using Tivo
> equipment. About a

3

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> hour program. That's about a 3 gig file. Uploading
> such a huge file would take a lot of time and then
> to have it spread all through the

P2P

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> networks so as to gather enough sources for common
> folks like me to download, at a decent speed, well
> by my calculations I'd still be downloading this TDF
> when the next TDF comes around. I must say I'm

hard

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> up to watch the TDF on the tube but I'm not that
> hard up. I'd be

willing

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> to pay 10 bucks to watch a video web cast of the TDF
> that has a

constant

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> stream of at least 300k. Who knows maybe next year.

Yes, I calculated (for the benefit of someone who
asked about the DVD recordings I was making) that it
would require a minimum of around 57 individual 4,7Gb
DVD-Rs to capture this year's Eurosport coverage of
le Tour, and quite possibly more than 60. Shipping
that volume of data across the net is not really
feasible, never mind the very real issues of copright
violation ...

I don't see why people think I'm mad. (On this topic, at
least). Every

Euro

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

'04 game for example was made available the day it was
broadcast. A

football

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

match is upwards of 90 minutes; the files are about a CD
in size (~700

MB).

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How long are ITV2's programmes, about an hour? Over a
broadband

connection a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

reasonably-popular TV programme file of this size
downloads in a few hours-it's finished before you get up
in the morning.

Odd that cyclists, so many of whom seem to pride
themselves on their technical expertise, find a project
beyond them that a bunch of lagered-up soccer fans have
no trouble with. Perhaps I should have posted on
rec.bicycles.tech.

Oh well, maybe next year.

Steve

Steve Pells, Edinburgh, UK

Quoted message said:

And stage 5 has been seeded as well...

Many thanks to those seeding files!

Cheers

Steve

Could someone post a quick note on how to view the torrent?
I'm running Mac OSX. Seems you need a separate app but can't
find any info on the Suprnova site.

Thanks, Jeff

(Jeff) said:

Could someone post a quick note on how to view the torrent?
I'm running Mac OSX. Seems you need a separate app but
can't find any info on the Suprnova site.

You don't "view" a torrent, you download it. Bit Torrent is
a peer 2 peer type network, you'll need a bt client to
access it. You can then search for what you want, download
and watch/listen/play whatever.

There are many clients available (google is your friend) but
Azureus is popular. It seems they also do an OS X version,
which I think is you Mac lot?

azureus.sourceforge.netazureus.sourceforge.netOpen ↗
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Email address is spam trapped. To reply directly remove
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Quoted message said:

On 9 Jul 2004 07:55:57 -0700, [email hidden]

(Jeff) said:

Could someone post a quick note on how to view the
torrent? I'm running Mac OSX. Seems you need a separate
app but can't find any info on the Suprnova site.

You don't "view" a torrent, you download it. Bit Torrent
is a peer 2 peer type network, you'll need a bt client to
access it. You can then search for what you want, download
and watch/listen/play whatever.

There are many clients available (google is your friend)
but Azureus is popular. It seems they also do an OS X
version, which I think is you Mac lot?

azureus.sourceforge.netazureus.sourceforge.netOpen ↗

Really weird geeky stuff, BETTER answered in the dweeb
forums, not RBR:

"BitTorrent is a noncommercial protocol for sharing large
files and filesets. It's super easy to use.
BitTorrentDownloads are started just by clicking on small
.torrent files or hyperlinks. Downloaders get pieces of the
fileset from the original server, and from anyone else who
is downloading. The more people there are downloading the
same thing, the lower the burden on the central server, and
the faster everyone's downloads get, due to sharing with
each other. The more, the merrier!"

Later, Ken (not really a l33t haxxor)

More, "Below is a list of common file types you will
encounter with BitTorrent, and how to handle them. Please be
aware that the best way to identify file types is by their
extension. For example, a file named ReallyCoolStuff.zip
ends in .zip which is a clue that you should open the
program in WinZip, or something equivalent."

In article <[email hidden]>, Jeff

Quoted message said:

Could someone post a quick note on how to view the
torrent? I'm running Mac OSX. Seems you need a separate
app but can't find any info on the Suprnova site.

To find almost any Mac app, go to versiontracker and use
the search.

versiontracker.commacosxOpen ↗