bladder infections

See a urologist. They are the experts in all things urinary.

Also, try drinking cranberry juice. My father had prostate infections. The cranberry juice he drank
(He got the concentrate from GNC) seem to help him a lot. Cranberry juice has a substance in it that
helps prevent bladder infections.

Jeff

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I keep getting bladder infections just about every month, and I can't get rid of them! The docter
just gives me a bottle of pills, I take them, and they just keep coming back! They say if I drink
too much

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I always do, so I think they're full of it! Does anyone know a different alterntive that I could
use instead of being on antibiotics that don't work for the rest of my life? Chelsy

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Subject: bladder infections From: [email hidden] (chelsy) Date: 9/20/2003 9:53 AM
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I keep getting bladder infections just about every month, and I can't get rid of them! The
docter just gives me a bottle of pills, I take them, and they just keep coming back! They say if
I drink too much

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I always do, so I think they're full of it! Does anyone know a different alterntive that I could
use instead of being on antibiotics that don't work for the rest of my life? Chelsy

Iron reduction therapy and vegetarian diet / low iron diet ....

For the rest of your life ..

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Subject: Re: bladder infections From: [email hidden] (doe) Date: 9/20/2003 12:23 PM
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Subject: bladder infections From: [email hidden] (chelsy) Date: 9/20/2003 9:53 AM
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I keep getting bladder infections just about every month, and I can't get rid of them! The docter
just gives me a bottle of pills, I take them, and they just keep coming back! They say if I drink
too much

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I always do, so I think they're full of it! Does anyone know a different alterntive that I could
use instead of being on antibiotics that don't work for the rest of my life? Chelsy

Iron reduction therapy and vegetarian diet / low iron diet ....

For the rest of your life ..

Shock. 2003 Jul;20(1):52-5. Related Articles, Links

Iron overload before cecal ligation and puncture increases mortality.

Wizorek JJ, Turnbull IR, Buchman TG.

Department of Surgery, Washington University School of Medicine, 660 South Euclid Street, St. Louis,
MO 63110, USA.

Iron metabolism is dysregulated in critically ill patients. A mouse model of dysregulated iron
metabolism was used to examine the consequence of iron loading upon sepsis. Mice deleted in the hfe
gene (hfe-/-) abnormally accumulate iron in tissue; defects in the human hfe gene are clinically
expressed as hemochromatosis. Hfe-/- mice and wild-type counterparts were randomized to receive
either high- or low-iron diets for 2 weeks. After iron loading, mice were subjected to cecal
ligation and puncture (CLP), a clinically relevant animal model of intra-abdominal sepsis. A
preliminary (but underpowered) study suggested that iron-loaded hfe-/- mice had increased mortality
as compared with hfe-/- mice fed a low-iron diet. There was no difference between wild-type and
hfe-/- mice fed a low-iron diet or between wild-type mice fed hihg- and low-iron diets. A
subsequent, appropriately powered study showed that iron-loaded hfe-/- mice had significantly higher
mortality from intra-abdominal sepsis than hfe-/- mice fed a low-iron diet. Iron loading was
confirmed through chemical assay of iron concentration in hepatic tissue. Animals with dysregulated
iron handling, loaded with iron and subjected to CLP, had double the mortality of animals with
normal iron levels. Critical care patients often have altered iron metabolism. In clinical practice,
critically ill patients may receive iron through direct administration and the transfusion of blood
products. Iron therapy may adversely affect the clinical outcome from sepsis.

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Please don't listen to doe. He does not have a clue.

Jeff

They should be taking this seriously and testing you for the particular organism that is causing it-
no decent doctor would keep feeding you the same antibiotics ( I assume that's what they are) when
they're not working... can you get a 2nd opinion? Cranberry juice is good. Also get the boyf to use
a condom if he's not already... perhaps he's reinfecting you. I believe urinary infections don't
bother guys so much but they can be carriers and infect you.

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I keep getting bladder infections just about every month, and I can't get rid of them! The docter
just gives me a bottle of pills, I take them, and they just keep coming back! They say if I drink
too much

Quoted message said:

I always do, so I think they're full of it! Does anyone know a different alterntive that I could
use instead of being on antibiotics that don't work for the rest of my life? Chelsy

More comments on that.

If your mother didn't teach you the proper direction to wipe, that could be part of the problem.

Good female hygeine, wash, douche etc.

No vaginal playtime after anal playtime.

Some say no nylon panties, only natural fibres. The synthetics work their way into things.

Cranberry juice does not mean cranberry coctail or some other sweetened punch. You have to go to a
reputable healthfood store and get ***REAL*** cranberry juice! It is expensive and it will knock
your socks off but it works well. My wife lived on the antibiotics for months until she took a
couple of small drinks of that elixir. GONE!

Possibly take a Vitamin C supplement with biflavanoids (a must) and 1000mg of L-Lysine daily to
accelerate healing and slow down future infections. Anti-inflamatory supplements may be a good idea.
Flax seed oil and garlic may help.

If you have heavy periods your uterus may be adhering to your bladder causing pockets in your
bladder and this can stop complete flushing.

Lots of water to keep the concentrations down.

See a Naturopathic doctor. Most of the time they are better equiped to handle these problems and
won't jump into surgery right away like most chem/cut docs.

Best of luck!

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They should be taking this seriously and testing you for the particular organism that is causing
it- no decent doctor would keep feeding you the same antibiotics ( I assume that's what they are)
when they're not working... can you get a 2nd opinion? Cranberry juice is good. Also get the boyf
to use a condom if he's not already... perhaps he's reinfecting you. I believe urinary infections
don't bother guys so much but they can

be

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carriers and infect you.

"chelsy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I keep getting bladder infections just about every month, and I can't get rid of them! The
docter just gives me a bottle of pills, I take them, and they just keep coming back! They say if
I drink too much

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I always do, so I think they're full of it! Does anyone know a different alterntive that I could
use instead of being on antibiotics that don't work for the rest of my life? Chelsy

"chelsy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I keep getting bladder infections just about every month, and I can't get rid of them! The docter
just gives me a bottle of pills, I take them, and they just keep coming back! They say if I drink
too much

Quoted message said:

I always do, so I think they're full of it! Does anyone know a different alterntive that I could
use instead of being on antibiotics that don't work for the rest of my life? Chelsy

D-Mannose if the infections are e-coli:

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I had chronic UTIs when my zinc was low.

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D-Mannose if the infections are e-coli:

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I had chronic UTIs when my zinc was low.

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I do wash properly, I know how to wipe, and it's not my boyfriend
because I've had them way before he cam einto the picture. I can't get a second opinion because
whenever I go to the hospital or clinic they give me pills just like my docter... It makes me
question the medical field sometimes.... Anyways I used to drink cranberry juice, but it was the
sweetened stuff, so maybe I'll try that. Also, has anyone heard of drinking green tea to prevent
bladder infections? I remember last year I was on this big kick to drink green tea like crazy to
loose weight, and I didn't seem to get a bladder infection while I was drinking it?! Chelsy

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D-Mannose if the infections are e-coli:

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I had chronic UTIs when my zinc was low.

kombuchapower.comZinc%20Sulphate%20Taste%20Test.pdfOpen ↗>

thewayup.com0113.htmOpen ↗

Gym Bob said:

Good female hygeine, wash, douche etc.

Yes but don't use soap,only water.

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I do wash properly, I know how to wipe, and it's not my boyfriend
because I've had them way before he cam einto the picture. I can't get a second opinion because
whenever I go to the hospital or clinic they give me pills just like my docter... It makes me
question the medical field sometimes.... Anyways I used to drink cranberry juice, but it was the
sweetened stuff, so maybe I'll try that. Also, has anyone heard of drinking green tea to prevent
bladder infections? I remember last year I was on this big kick to drink green tea like crazy to
loose weight, and I didn't seem to get a bladder infection while I was drinking it?! Chelsy

I'd think extra liquids would be good. In the case of the tea, the assorted methyl xanthines in tea
would tend to increase urine output which when combined with extra fluids would keep the urinary
tract swept free of bacteria. As the the sweeten cranberry drinks, I have to wonder if they contain
enough juice to make a difference. It is a pity that Ocean Spray quit making the 100% cranberry
juice over 30 years ago as far as I know. I guess the masses were too stupid value or sweeten the
100% juice product and the OC managers too stupid to see a premium market for 100% cranberry juice
in health food stores.

(chelsy) said:

this big kick to drink green tea like crazy to loose weight, and I didn't seem to get a bladder
infection while I was drinking it?!

Checked if blood sugar and there is no urine sugars? Diabetes is a reason for repeated bladder
infections, also in male.

Exactly. These medics are being crassy irresponsible by sending you away every time with pills that
don't work. You could end up with a kidney infection if they don't look for the cause. Have a seach
on the net (google.com) for causes of UTI's and kidney damage - copy some of the stuff and take it
into the clinics - ask them what the chances are you'll end up with damaged kidneys (they won't know
cos they don't know what's causing the problem) & you hope they're prepared to take resposibility if
you do. I've found the best way to deal with lazy/recalcitrant medics is to know as much as possible
about your problem - if they can't back out of a logical argument you can usually get some action.
Of course some stick their fingers in their ears and go 'la-la-la I can't hear you' (that means
you're getting somewhere but you just need someone with more sense to talk to) and others throw a
wobbly when cornered (ditto) so sometimes you do have to change your doctor.

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(chelsy) said:

Checked if blood sugar and there is no urine sugars? Diabetes is a reason for repeated bladder
infections, also in male.

bryher said:

Exactly. These medics are being crassy irresponsible by sending you away every time with pills that
don't work. You could end up with a kidney infection if they don't look for the cause. Have a seach
on the net

Over here it is a standard routine to test for diabetes when you have a bladder infection. I for my
part had the diagnosis almost before I sat down in the chair to explain my symptoms. Maybe you have
an infection, the doctor said, but the reason is the diabetes you have acquired, he said. My urine
was choke full of sugar, and afterwards, a fast sugar test of blood found 22 mmol/l sugar in blood
:-) almost 3 times upper normal limit :-(

If you have ever tasted pure cranberry juice you would know why they discontinued it.

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"chelsy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks everyone for the advice. I do wash properly, I know how to wipe, and it's not my
boyfriend because I've had them way before he cam einto the picture. I can't get a second
opinion because whenever I go to the hospital or clinic they give me pills just like my
docter... It makes me question the medical field sometimes.... Anyways I used to drink cranberry
juice, but it was the sweetened stuff, so maybe I'll try that. Also, has anyone heard of
drinking green tea to prevent bladder infections? I remember last year I was on this big kick to
drink green tea like crazy to loose weight, and I didn't seem to get a bladder infection while I
was drinking it?! Chelsy

I'd think extra liquids would be good. In the case of the tea, the

assorted

Quoted message said:

methyl xanthines in tea would tend to increase urine output which when combined with extra fluids
would keep the urinary tract swept free of bacteria. As the the sweeten cranberry drinks, I have
to wonder if they contain enough juice to make a difference. It is a pity that Ocean Spray quit
making the 100% cranberry juice over 30 years ago as far as I know. I guess the masses were too
stupid value or sweeten the 100% juice product and the OC managers too stupid to see a premium
market for 100% cranberry juice in health food stores.

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I keep getting bladder infections just about every month, and I can't get rid of them! The docter
just gives me a bottle of pills, I take them, and they just keep coming back! They say if I drink
too much

Quoted message said:

I always do, so I think they're full of it! Does anyone know a different alterntive that I could
use instead of being on antibiotics that don't work for the rest of my life? Chelsy

My wife used to get them often. Almost ever couple of months or so. In the last three years or so
since we started eating low-carb, she has had very few bladder infections. Go figure.

TC