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Whatever. I am not premitted to drive because of a medical condition. I use a bicycle

May I ask what medical condition makes you unable to use one form of road transport, yet leaves
you in a condition to safely operate another, more strenuous, form of road transport?

More than one. I have an entirely unrelated condition to James, and for a few weeks had no driving
licence. Cycling was fine though.

In both cases, I think the reasoning is down to the amount of damage one may cause by losing control
of one's vehicle.

I'll never be allowed to drive big lorries or planes...

cheers, clive

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Whatever. I am not premitted to drive because of a medical condition. I use a bicycle

May I ask what medical condition makes you unable to use one form of road transport, yet leaves
you in a condition to safely operate another, more strenuous, form of road transport?

Epilepsy, or unexplained fit. When I was in hospital for appendicitis, I was taken off the
anaesthetic too quickly, and had some form of seizure (I don't react well to an awful lot of
anaesthetics - the normal ones dentists use don't work at all, just give me pins and needles!).

I had to have an EKG, and only after a, er, brain-doctor-person (what the hell are they called?)
took a look at them, and said there were no abnormal patterns, was I sure that I could keep on
driving. If there'd been abnormal ones, they'd have written to the DVLA and had my license
cancelled.

I'd have been able to ride a bike, but not drive a car.

Pete.

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Whatever. I am not premitted to drive because of a medical condition. I use a bicycle

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May I ask what medical condition makes you unable to use one form of road transport, yet leaves
you in a condition to safely operate another, more strenuous, form of road transport?

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Epilepsy, or unexplained fit.

I had to have an EKG, and only after a, er, brain-doctor-person (what the hell are they called?)

Did you mean EEG? Neuro-physician - or at least, it was on Monday when I took the F-i-L for an EEG.

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took a look at them, and said there were no abnormal patterns, was I sure that I could keep on
driving. If there'd been abnormal ones, they'd have written to the DVLA and had my license
cancelled.

Isn't there something like a "clean" year after the last fit required, in order to be allowed to
drive? It certainly was when a mate had a bout of epilepsy a year or two ago.

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I'd have been able to ride a bike, but not drive a car.

You'd be allowed to. You're allowed to ride a bicycle, legally, if blind. The risk of having an
epileptic fit, though, while cycling is surely exactly the same (assuming it's not made worse by the
exertion) as while driving? Sure, the consequences will probably be less serious for third parties -
but they'll probably be more serious for you.

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> Whatever. I am not premitted to drive because of a medical condition. I use a bicycle

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May I ask what medical condition makes you unable to use one form of road transport, yet leaves
you in a condition to safely operate another, more strenuous, form of road transport?

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Epilepsy, or unexplained fit.

I had to have an EKG, and only after a, er, brain-doctor-person (what the hell are they called?)

Did you mean EEG? Neuro-physician - or at least, it was on Monday when I took the F-i-L
for an EEG.

Yes, sorry. I'm sure there's a special term for head doctors though. Like a Cardiologist looks
after hearts.

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took a look at them, and said there were no abnormal patterns, was I sure that I could keep on
driving. If there'd been abnormal ones, they'd have written to the DVLA and had my license
cancelled.

Isn't there something like a "clean" year after the last fit required, in order to be allowed to
drive? It certainly was when a mate had a bout of epilepsy a year or two ago.

Normally, yes. In my case, my EEG came up OK, and it is a known side- effect of being taken off this
particular anaesthetic too quickly, so they said there wasn't a problem.

Pete.

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I'm sure there's a special term for head doctors though. Like a Cardiologist looks after hearts.

Yep, a Neuro-Physiologist. At least, it was certainly the Neuro-Physiology dept we were in,
according to the appointment letter, the signs, and the staff's badges....

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Pete Smith ([email hidden]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

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I'm sure there's a special term for head doctors though. Like a Cardiologist looks after hearts.

Yep, a Neuro-Physiologist. At least, it was certainly the Neuro-Physiology dept we were in,
according to the appointment letter, the signs, and the staff's badges....

Perhaps _they_ forgot the word for head-doctor, and made something up :-p

Pete.

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I'm sure there's a special term for head doctors though. Like a Cardiologist looks after
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Yep, a Neuro-Physiologist. At least, it was certainly the Neuro-Physiology dept we were in,
according to the appointment letter, the signs, and the staff's badges....

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Perhaps _they_ forgot the word for head-doctor, and made something up
:-p

It *was* Luton hospital. Nothing would surprise me.

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That is still traffic into the town centre.

Yes, but traffic which is easier to accomodate in Britains towns.

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Using bikes instead of a car increases traffic.

Not in terms of space require it doesn't

So 'much less congested' means 'half as many cars' ?

Bikes and pedestirans (and to a lesser extent busses) take up less footprint than cars when occupied
fully. More people needn't mean more congestion.

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So a 3 mile walk+bus journey into Coventry off peak would
take roughly how long door-to-door, compared with a car?

From where?

If it matters, Westwood Heath.

So you're maybe 30 seconds further away form Coventry than I am. It'd take you at most 50 minutes to
walk to Coventry CC - by car it'd take a good half hour by car.

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If off-peak journeys into a by-passed town centre are congested, doesn't that mean they are
attractive?

All it means is that people are driving through the town.

Why are people driving through a by-passed town cenre if not commuting to and from work?

To get into the town centre shopping, for a start.

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It doesn't mean they're stopping and spending money. Many do - many do not, and those

who

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don't make shopping less attractive for those who do.

So we should only go into a town centre to spend money?

No, but people who drive (and indeed walk, cycle, take the train etc.) through town without shopping
there are taking a service provided by that town without returning anything, which is unfair if it
is unecessary.

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> So a 3 mile walk+bus journey into Coventry off peak would
> take roughly how long door-to-door, compared with a car?

If it matters, Westwood Heath.

So you're maybe 30 seconds further away form Coventry than I am. It'd take you at most 50 minutes
to walk to Coventry CC - by car it'd take a good half hour by car.

No, I am nowhere near Coventry, I am just using it as an example to see what travel benefits you
think residents would have from much less congestion. It seems they would be able to walk at
3.6mph, rather than having to walk at 3.6mph or drive at 6mph. Any claims that the average vehicle
speed in the West Midlands is 20mph might be fictional..