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  1. Someone please visit uk.transport.london

    I won't reply, as my blood pressure won't take it.
    I'm not being cryptic, there's a 'number plates for bicycles' thread.

  2. John Hearns said:

    Someone please visit uk.transport.london

    I won't reply, as my blood pressure won't take it.
    I'm not being cryptic, there's a 'number plates for bicycles' thread.

    I haven't got time to visit the site, but I just want to mention an
    interesting discussion I had with my former boss who was born in India
    and lived there till he came to the UK probably in the 1960's.

    Of course the bicycle was the main form of transport and everything was
    geared up for it. Any kind of mechanical problem and you would instantly
    have someone offering to do repairs by the roadside, anything from
    fixing a puncture to welding a broken frame.

    What surprised me though was when he said that all bicycles were legally
    required to be registered and have a number plate. Of course hardly
    anyone complied. So when you were cycling and another cyclist gave a
    certain signal you knew to get off and push until you had passed the
    police checkpoint. They couldn't do anything if you were wheeling the
    bike, and when safely past you would hop back on and pedal away:-)

    Ian

    --
    Ian Gregory
    http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/

  3. Ian Gregory said:


    What surprised me though was when he said that all bicycles were legally
    required to be registered and have a number plate. Of course hardly
    anyone complied. So when you were cycling and another cyclist gave a
    certain signal you knew to get off and push until you had passed the
    police checkpoint. They couldn't do anything if you were wheeling the
    bike, and when safely past you would hop back on and pedal away:-)

    Switzerland has plates on bicycles too. The Velo-Vignette costs SF6 and
    is mandatory. It provides the compulsory third party insurance.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  4. John Hearns said:

    Someone please visit uk.transport.london

    I won't reply, as my blood pressure won't take it.
    I'm not being cryptic, there's a 'number plates for bicycles' thread.

    Are you sure - Google Groups isn't showing anything and neither did a
    download of the last 500 posts from my news server.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  5. Ian Gregory said:


    John Hearns said:

    Someone please visit uk.transport.london

    I won't reply, as my blood pressure won't take it.
    I'm not being cryptic, there's a 'number plates for bicycles' thread.

    I haven't got time to visit the site, but I just want to mention an
    interesting discussion I had with my former boss who was born in India
    and lived there till he came to the UK probably in the 1960's.

    Quoted message said:


    What surprised me though was when he said that all bicycles were legally
    required to be registered and have a number plate. Of course hardly
    anyone complied. So when you were cycling and another cyclist gave a
    certain signal you knew to get off and push until you had passed the
    police checkpoint. They couldn't do anything if you were wheeling the
    bike, and when safely past you would hop back on and pedal away:-)

    Aha.
    its suddenly become clear why all those 'Cyclist Dismount' signs have
    been appearing.

    Its not bone-headed traffic engineers, but miltant bikies preparing us
    for the new legislation.

    John B

  6. Tony Raven said:
    John Hearns said:

    Someone please visit uk.transport.london

    I won't reply, as my blood pressure won't take it.
    I'm not being cryptic, there's a 'number plates for bicycles' thread.

    Are you sure - Google Groups isn't showing anything and neither did a
    download of the last 500 posts from my news server.

    That's because the title of the thread is "Inevitable Cycle Fiasco".
    --
    Chris

    Hain't we got all the fools in town on our side? And hain't that a big
    enough majority in any town?
    -- Mark Twain, "Huckleberry Finn"

  7. John Hearns said:

    Someone please visit uk.transport.london

    I won't reply, as my blood pressure won't take it.
    I'm not being cryptic, there's a 'number plates for bicycles' thread.

    I found it all quite entertaining as a driver, cyclist and pedestrian.

  8. On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:11:39 +0000, Ian Gregory wrote:

    surprised me though was when he said that all bicycles were legally

    Quoted message said:

    required to be registered and have a number plate. Of course hardly anyone
    complied.


    I still have the numberplate from my old Carlton 5-speed.
    Not from India though!

  9. Tony Raven said:

    Switzerland has plates on bicycles too. The Velo-Vignette costs SF6 and
    is mandatory. It provides the compulsory third party insurance.


    Ooohh..... you let the cat out of the bag.

    In the old days though you got a metal tag
    (God knows how a Number Plate Recognition Camera would read it though!)
    These days its just an adhesive sticker.

  10. Tony Raven said:
    Ian Gregory said:


    What surprised me though was when he said that all bicycles were legally
    required to be registered and have a number plate. Of course hardly
    anyone complied. So when you were cycling and another cyclist gave a
    certain signal you knew to get off and push until you had passed the
    police checkpoint. They couldn't do anything if you were wheeling the
    bike, and when safely past you would hop back on and pedal away:-)

    Switzerland has plates on bicycles too. The Velo-Vignette costs SF6 and
    is mandatory. It provides the compulsory third party insurance.

    the sit up and beg I hired in Mallorca had an official looking two
    digit plate. But the racer didn't.

    BTW have they relaxed the law on front L plates for mopeds and
    scooters? There seem to be a lot around with only back ones (not that
    it bothers me, I assume they are all 'learners' irrespective)

  11. On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:18:01 +0100, John Hearns <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not being cryptic, there's a 'number plates for bicycles' thread.

    "Number plates" are already required by the University of Cambridge
    for its junior members.

    http://tinyurl.com/9rc7f

    or

    http://www.cam.ac.uk/cambuniv/studenthandbook/studentlife/vehicles/

    The site also states:

    "It is, of course, both dangerous and illegal to ride a bicycle after
    dark without lights, to cycle on pedestrian pavements or to ignore
    traffic lights."

    But no helmet advice ;-)

  12. Bertie Wiggins said:

    "Number plates" are already required by the University of Cambridge
    for its junior members.

    That's numbers painted on to the mudguards at the back. And the
    numbers belong to the student, not to the bike, so both the bikes
    I had whilst at Cambridge had exactly the same number.

    Funnily enough, whilst all the (historically) womens colleges had
    the (probably apocryphal) story about a fire alarm in the night
    bringing out *more* men than women, there were no such stories
    about bikes doing the rounds.

    --
    Nick Kew

  13. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ian Gregory said:


    What surprised me though was when he said that all bicycles were legally
    required to be registered and have a number plate. Of course hardly
    anyone complied. So when you were cycling and another cyclist gave a
    certain signal you knew to get off and push until you had passed the
    police checkpoint. They couldn't do anything if you were wheeling the
    bike, and when safely past you would hop back on and pedal away:-)

    Switzerland has plates on bicycles too. The Velo-Vignette costs SF6 and
    is mandatory. It provides the compulsory third party insurance.

    It must be just in certain places - I was there a few weeks ago and some of
    our group hired bicyles and there were no plates on any of the 20 bikes.

    On a visit to Bern too there were non noticably visible.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

    DaveB
    UK

  14. Dave said:
    Quoted message said:


    It must be just in certain places - I was there a few weeks ago and some
    of our group hired bicyles and there were no plates on any of the 20
    bikes.


    You're correct I think.
    Switzerland had a federated government, and its not too much of a joke to
    say that the president can walk down the street without anyone recognising
    him.
    The vignette is probably a Cantonal thing (cantons are the regions which
    make up up the Confederation).

  15. On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:14:41 +0100, John Hearns <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Dave said:
    Quoted message said:


    It must be just in certain places - I was there a few weeks ago and some
    of our group hired bicyles and there were no plates on any of the 20
    bikes.


    You're correct I think.
    Switzerland had a federated government, and its not too much of a joke to
    say that the president can walk down the street without anyone recognising
    him.

    The Swiss have a firm belief that decision making should rest with the
    people. Any constitutional change needs to be approved by a double
    majority referendum. 100,000 voters can call a constitutional
    referendum by signature. Federal law is subject to approval by
    referenda, and 50,000 signatures suffice to propose a new law.

    The President is not as important in Swiss politics as in some other
    democracies.

  16. Nick Kew <[email hidden]> whizzed past me shouting

    Quoted message said:


    Funnily enough, whilst all the (historically) womens colleges had
    the (probably apocryphal) story about a fire alarm in the night
    bringing out *more* men than women, there were no such stories
    about bikes doing the rounds.

    The system was university-wide, and anyone could see which college a
    bike belonged to, provided the back mudguard was still attached.
    When my brother was at Cambridge in the seventies, there were frequent
    jokes about the number of male-college bikes to be seen in the shed at
    Girton, a womens college three miles out of town.

    My brother's Raleigh Record was often amongst 'em, until he misjudged
    the speed of oncoming traffic and became the male-college bike that got
    run over in front of the gates of Girton.
    His bike recovered but he had to amputate the rear mudguard.

    --
    Sue ];(🙂

  17. Sue White said:

    Nick Kew <[email hidden]> whizzed past me shouting

    Quoted message said:


    Funnily enough, whilst all the (historically) womens colleges had
    the (probably apocryphal) story about a fire alarm in the night
    bringing out *more* men than women, there were no such stories
    about bikes doing the rounds.

    The system was university-wide, and anyone could see which college a
    bike belonged to, provided the back mudguard was still attached.

    Within reason, and subject to things like legibility.

    Quoted message said:

    When my brother was at Cambridge in the seventies, there were frequent
    jokes about the number of male-college bikes to be seen in the shed at
    Girton, a womens college three miles out of town.

    Girton was mixed when I was a student there. Though we chaps were still
    in a minority:-)

    Quoted message said:

    My brother's Raleigh Record was often amongst 'em, until he misjudged
    the speed of oncoming traffic and became the male-college bike that got
    run over in front of the gates of Girton.
    His bike recovered but he had to amputate the rear mudguard.

    Ouch:-(

    /me suspects his was one of the first male Girton bikes to overnight
    at Newnham:-)

    --
    Nick Kew

  18. Ian Gregory said:
    John Hearns said:

    Someone please visit uk.transport.london

    I won't reply, as my blood pressure won't take it.
    I'm not being cryptic, there's a 'number plates for bicycles' thread.

    I haven't got time to visit the site, but I just want to mention an
    interesting discussion I had with my former boss who was born in India
    and lived there till he came to the UK probably in the 1960's.

    Of course the bicycle was the main form of transport and everything was
    geared up for it. Any kind of mechanical problem and you would instantly
    have someone offering to do repairs by the roadside, anything from
    fixing a puncture to welding a broken frame.

    What surprised me though was when he said that all bicycles were legally
    required to be registered and have a number plate. Of course hardly
    anyone complied. So when you were cycling and another cyclist gave a
    certain signal you knew to get off and push until you had passed the
    police checkpoint. They couldn't do anything if you were wheeling the
    bike, and when safely past you would hop back on and pedal away:-)

    Ian

    Thanks for reinforcing the sick,bigoted view that all Indians are
    corrupt.

    You Jim Davidson-clones make me sick !

    Why don't you and Nick Griffin [censored]-off back to Nuremberg !

    (but since he's killfiled me he won't see this post ! hee-hee-hee !!!)

    (but even if he hasn't killfiled me he can't reply,cos that will show
    him up for the poo-brain liar he is. ha-ha-ha !!!)

  19. The Nottingham Duck said:

    Thanks for reinforcing the sick,bigoted view that all Indians are
    corrupt.

    You Jim Davidson-clones make me sick !

    Why don't you and Nick Griffin [censored]-off back to Nuremberg !

    (but since he's killfiled me he won't see this post ! hee-hee-hee !!!)

    (but even if he hasn't killfiled me he can't reply,cos that will show
    him up for the poo-brain liar he is. ha-ha-ha !!!)

    Tasteful. Thanks for playing.

    *plonk*

    --
    Ambrose

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