Boiled Alive !!!

jmcquown said:

Not to mention, cats require a lot more care than kids.

You must be out of your pea-sized mind. Don't *ever* breed,
please.

You wouldn't happen to have a brother named Jerry Sauk, would
you?

-sw

Steve Pope said:

jmcquown said:

The whole thing is fishy. Accident my ass!

The authorities are saying they haven't ruled anything out.

I think they're gathering feedback from Usenet on this one. I
hope we've given them a few avenues of investigation.

-sw

On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 17:48:41 GMT, [email hidden] (Little
Malice) rummaged among random neurons and opined:

Quoted message said:

Steve, you quoted the exact same part of this story that
caught my eye. After my initial horror (such an awful thing to
have happen!) I was confused. I can't run my dishwasher unless
it's locked and that can be done via a switch on the outside.
Are people so lazy now that they can't push a button or turn a
knob for themselves? I just can't imagine such a feature is
necessary...

You can interrupt any cycle on my dish washer and, if you close the
door firmly, it will start up again. Don't have to push the buttons to
get it going again.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

"Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Steve Pope said:

jmcquown said:

The whole thing is fishy. Accident my ass!

The authorities are saying they haven't ruled anything out.

I think they're gathering feedback from Usenet on this one. I
hope we've given them a few avenues of investigation.

-sw

What about the sleeping dad? Where was the 18 month old when he went to
sleep? Was the kid crying, keeping him awake? Is the dishwasher insulated
for sound? So many questions, so little time...

BOB
eating a smoked brisket sandwich, brisket fresh from the Stump's

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Quoted message said:

jmcquown said:

Not to mention, cats require a lot more care than kids.

Heh. I musta missed that one.

Quoted message said:

You must be out of your pea-sized mind. Don't *ever* breed,
please.

You wouldn't happen to have a brother named Jerry Sauk, would
you?

-sw

Cats need diapers? Cats need feeding (besides having food in the bowl?)

BOB
<shrug>

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Quoted message said:

A gruesome death:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/01/national/main2874724.shtml

I'd be a little suspicious about that 13-year-old.

Why? Nothing in the story indicates ANY reason why there should be any suspicion of
the 13 yr old. Bad enough he was the one to find his baby brother dead, and in such a
gruesome manner. He doesn't need someone who has no first hand knowledge pointing
fingers. Unless there's reason to believe otherwise, how about a little sympathy?

kimberly

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Quoted message said:

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 20:54:36 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>
rummaged among random neurons and opined:

Quoted message said:

I wondered about that. I figured maybe they meant it had been
in the middle of a cycle? Why else would a dishwasher start because
it's closed. It's closed all the time unless I'm loading it or unloading
it. My last dishwasher, you forgot to put something in, you opened
it, added it, and just shut the door, it would start back up.

Something doesn't sound right, as Mark said.

Nancy, think about it. (a) Look at the inside of your dishwasher door.
You see something that could act as a handle other than the lid on the
soap dispenser? That's the only way a kid could shut the door on
himself and he'd really have to yank it; (b) the drawers of a
dishwasher are just full of spikes and an 18 month old wouldn't fit in
either drawer nor would he find it comfortable or enticing. An 18
month old is a fairly sizeable package - larger than I could fit into
my dishwasher in either drawer, although I shudder to imagine it.

I looked at snopes.com and it's the real deal, but I'd be taking a
real close look at the teenage brother who was at home at the time.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd...just sayin'

The father was home too, asleep when the 13 yr old found him. There's no indication
of how long he'd been there when the brother found him. Why not accuse the father
too?

kimberly

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Quoted message said:

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 20:54:36 -0400, "Nancy Young"
<[email hidden]> rummaged among random neurons and opined:

Quoted message said:

I wondered about that. I figured maybe they meant it had been
in the middle of a cycle? Why else would a dishwasher start
because it's closed. It's closed all the time unless I'm loading
it or unloading it. My last dishwasher, you forgot to put
something in, you opened it, added it, and just shut the door, it
would start back up.

Something doesn't sound right, as Mark said.

Nancy, think about it. (a) Look at the inside of your dishwasher
door. You see something that could act as a handle other than the
lid on the soap dispenser? That's the only way a kid could shut the
door on himself and he'd really have to yank it; (b) the drawers of
a dishwasher are just full of spikes and an 18 month old wouldn't
fit in either drawer nor would he find it comfortable or enticing.
An 18 month old is a fairly sizeable package - larger than I could
fit into my dishwasher in either drawer, although I shudder to
imagine it. I looked at snopes.com and it's the real deal, but I'd be
taking a
real close look at the teenage brother who was at home at the time.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd...just sayin'

The father was home too, asleep when the 13 yr old found him. There's
no indication of how long he'd been there when the brother found him.
Why not accuse the father too?

I think that I just mentioned the same thing in another post.

BOB
great minds and all that?

BOB said:

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Quoted message said:

jmcquown said:

Not to mention, cats require a lot more care than kids.

Heh. I musta missed that one.

Quoted message said:

You must be out of your pea-sized mind. Don't *ever* breed,
please.

You wouldn't happen to have a brother named Jerry Sauk, would
you?

-sw

Cats need diapers? Cats need feeding (besides having food in the
bowl?)

BOB
<shrug>

Diapers aside, cats need everything a child needs, though, including toilet
(litter box) training, toys, food, water, milk (if they aren't lactose
intolerant), medical care, routine shots and exams, affection, attention.
And yes, discipline, otherwise my cat may have attempted to eat my
parakeets years ago and I wouldn't have felt right about bringing a lovebird
into the house after the 'keets died of old age.

Not to worry, I'm not about to breed even if I were still of that age, which
I'm not. I have no interest whatsover in babies that may turn out like
Steve Wertz.

Jill

Mary Pud said:

jmcquown said:

Not to mention, cats require a lot more care than kids.

You must be out of your pea-sized mind. Don't *ever* breed,
please.

You wouldn't happen to have a brother named Jerry Sauk, would
you?

-sw

Oh geez. You teased and enticed me with the "MaryPud" name and made me
think it was the Mary Pud poster (with her adorable ASCI kitty) from
back when the majority of RFC posters still discussed food a majority of
the time.
Otherwise I agree with you- cats don't require a blip of care compared
to what babies require.

BOB said:

"Nexis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

The father was home too, asleep when the 13 yr old found him. There's
no indication of how long he'd been there when the brother found him.
Why not accuse the father too?

I think that I just mentioned the same thing in another post.

I think I'm leaning more towards "the father did it" now. He put
the kid in there to keep him quiet so he could sleep (dishwashers
are great insulators), and maybe the 13-year old kid turned on
the dishwasher, not knowing the kid was in there.

I think we need some more followup stores on this incident so we
can come up with some more theories :-)

Seriously, though. I've been firsthand witness to many things
that have made the papers and newscasts, and you'd be surprised
how many reporters (in cooperation with their editors, law
enforcement, or other sources) can really screw up the truth.

-sw

Nexis said:

Why? Nothing in the story indicates ANY reason why there should be
any suspicion of the 13 yr old.

Oh yeah. No reason to suspect a 13-year-old boy
at the scene of a major tragedy. "It's not my fault."

Nexis said:

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Quoted message said:

A gruesome death:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/01/national/main2874724.shtml

I'd be a little suspicious about that 13-year-old.

Why? Nothing in the story indicates ANY reason why there should be any
suspicion of the 13 yr old. Bad enough he was the one to find his baby
brother dead, and in such a gruesome manner. He doesn't need someone who
has no first hand knowledge pointing fingers. Unless there's reason to
believe otherwise, how about a little sympathy?

Spent much time around thirteen year-olds, have you?

Adult-strength emotions, near-adult physical strength,
nowhere-near-adult judgment or inhibitions.

I'd be looking *hard* at big bro.

jmcquown said:

Diapers aside, cats need everything a child needs, though, including toilet
(litter box) training, toys, food, water, milk (if they aren't lactose
intolerant), medical care, routine shots and exams, affection, attention.
And yes, discipline, otherwise my cat may have attempted to eat my
parakeets years ago and I wouldn't have felt right about bringing a lovebird
into the house after the 'keets died of old age.

A child is 50 times as hard to care for than a damn cat. I can't
believe you can even begin to compare the two one for one like
this and claim a cat is harder to care for.

This has to be some of the more asinine stuff to have come out of
your mouth in recent years.

Quoted message said:

I have no interest whatsover in babies that may turn out like
Steve Wertz.

Yeah - it'd be tough having a 4-year old son smarter than
yourself. Sheeeit - I'd be taking care of *you*.

-sw

Goomba38 said:

Oh geez. You teased and enticed me with the "MaryPud" name and made me
think it was the Mary Pud poster (with her adorable ASCI kitty) from
back when the majority of RFC posters still discussed food a majority of
the time.
Otherwise I agree with you- cats don't require a blip of care compared
to what babies require.

Sorry about that. I use whatever comes to mind. And since the
subject was cat... Mary F came to mind.

-sw

Steve Wertz said:

Nancy Young said:

I know machines are quieter and much more insulated than they
used to be, but I'm also thinking ... the older kid had to hear
signs of distress.

Maybe the kid put him in there to baffle the cries. Or maybe he
was on diaper duty that morning and figured this was the best way
to clean the kid's ass.

You also have to consider that this was a small town in Arkansas
- a town that isn't even mapped on Mapquest. So the police
department are probably relatives.

Some pictures:http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/strange/news-article.aspx?storyid=...

-sw

Via Googlemaps, the town is about 45 miles NNE of Little Rock,
and west of Rt 64. It appears to be farmland, and the house is
on a cul-de-sac with a couple of other buildings.

It sounds like someone is insinuating that the whole area is full of
country cousins and the like. Slap your mind, Stevie. Unless you
have some facts to back up that sort of assumption.

maxine in ri

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Nexis said:

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Quoted message said:

A gruesome death:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/01/national/main2874724.shtml

I'd be a little suspicious about that 13-year-old.

Why? Nothing in the story indicates ANY reason why there should be any suspicion
of the 13 yr old. Bad enough he was the one to find his baby brother dead, and in
such a gruesome manner. He doesn't need someone who has no first hand knowledge
pointing fingers. Unless there's reason to believe otherwise, how about a little
sympathy?

Spent much time around thirteen year-olds, have you?

Adult-strength emotions, near-adult physical strength, nowhere-near-adult judgment
or inhibitions.

I'd be looking *hard* at big bro.

As a matter of fact, I have 3 kids, two of which are well past 13 now, and one who IS
13.
This is just another case of people jumping to conclusions without knowing the facts.
For the record, I didn't say the 13 yr old did or did not do it. Just that people
should have the FACTS before making accusations.

kimberly

Barbara Toots said:

-sw

Why are you using that moniker?

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Nexis said:

This is just another case of people jumping to conclusions without knowing the facts.
For the record, I didn't say the 13 yr old did or did not do it. Just that people
should have the FACTS before making accusations.

One fact we need to know is "Did the dishwasher have dishes in it"?

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One time on Usenet said:

Mark Thorson said:

BOB said:

Just because *YOU* still cannot be trusted with anything more than a
cat, do you really thing the whole world is as incompetant as you
are.

That's spelled "incompetent". :-)

Not to mention, cats require a lot more care than kids.

I have both. You're wrong.

Quoted message said:

They can't tell you
when something hurts. Kids should at least be able to say "DON'T PUT ME IN
THE DISHWASHER"

Not at 18 months they generally don't. They simply cry.

Quoted message said:

The whole thing is fishy. Accident my ass! The 13 year
old is a serial killer in the making. I wouldn't let him near my cat!

I don't know if that's the case, but I do agree to the fishiness
part...

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