Boots, again...

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:52:29 +0000, Nick Hopton <[email hidden]>

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By the way, after reading about them in this place I bought a pair of Gore-Tex gaiters and wore
them yesterday. They performed incredibly well; I'm impressed.

I didn't see the original reference to them - what's the point? Why do you need breathable gaiters?

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Quoted message said:

By the way, after reading about them in this place I bought a pair of Gore-Tex gaiters and wore
them yesterday. They performed incredibly well; I'm impressed.

I didn't see the original reference to them - what's the point? Why do you need breathable gaiters?

[...]

Sorry, the original reference was about the excellence of gaiters in general. I bought the Gore-Tex
ones because they weren't much more than the non Gore-Tex ones. I've no idea what the point was, I'm
new to all this and 'Gore-Tex' = 'good' I suppose, in my mind, but I stand to be corrected.

Regards, Nick.

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Nick Hopton wrote

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The walk I did yesterday is pretty typical of what I do. The Berkshire Downs, Lambourn - Wayland's
Smithy - Uffington Castle - Lambourn, about 25 km in all. It was raining and very wet underfoot
and after walking through grass, mud, chalk slurry, et cetera for about an hour my boots started
to let in water.

I know the area well, having lived in Reading for a few years and spent many a weekend up on
the Ridgeway.

Given that the area is not particularly hilly you should stay away from boots aimed mainly at
mountaineering, ie. heavy, stiff soled. Also, as you know, when the ground 'round there gets wet it
can get incredibly claggy and in this respect I would also avoid anything fabric. Stick with
something one piece leather but go for lightweight so that you can use them all year 'round. To be
honest, you'd be hard pushed to better something like a Brasher Boot for the terrain. Popular,
comfortable, light, robust. Just the job.

Used to spend hours flying my kites off White Horse Hill on sunny summer afternoons. Blissful.

Chris
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Nick Hopton said:

Hello All,

The walk I did yesterday is pretty typical of what I do. The Berkshire Downs, Lambourn - Wayland's
Smithy - Uffington Castle - Lambourn, about 25 km in all. It was raining and very wet underfoot
and after walking through grass, mud, chalk slurry, et cetera for about an hour my boots started
to let in water.

So, I need some new boots. These need to be light, comfortable, robust and *waterproof*. I
bought my old Coleman boots cheap a couple of years ago without really knowing what I wanted,
but luck favours the naive and these have turned out to be very comfortable and kind on the
feet, but they leak.

I don't think any straight leather boot can be waterproof since leather isn't so you will be looking
for a pair of treated/lined boots. Many people swear by Brashers and I doubt you would go wrong with
a pair of them but I cannot get them to fit my feet. I eventually bought a pair of Zamberlan's with
Hydrabloc treatment and have been well impressed - sewn in tongue and as long as I have waxed the
seams there you can ford streams and stay dry.

"Paul Rooney" <[email hidden]> wrote in > Why do

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you need breathable gaiters?

I don't think gaiters are really quite invented yet, or at least I've never found a pair that does
everything I want: on/off easily, easy lace access, no sag, easy to adjust all straps with wet and
cold hands, stays put, long wearing under-foot strap--not to mention keeping water and junk out AND
not allowing build up of a lot of moisture inside from sweat that can't escape out the tightened top
(but if the top is loosened. the gaiter sags....) I've taken off gaiters and found my lower trousers
drenched--on a warm sunny day. Hence the Goretex, I suppose.

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Nick Hopton wrote

To be honest, you'd be hard pushed to better

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something like a Brasher Boot for the terrain. Popular, comfortable, light, robust. Just the job.

Definitely my recommendation, too. Just about to get them out now for an afternoon's worth of use,
as a matter of fact.

Steve Howarth

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:11:12 +0000, Nick Hopton <[email hidden]>

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In a recent message <[email hidden]>, Paul Rooney
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Quoted message said:

By the way, after reading about them in this place I bought a pair of Gore-Tex gaiters and wore
them yesterday. They performed incredibly well; I'm impressed.

I didn't see the original reference to them - what's the point? Why do you need breathable
gaiters?

[...]

Sorry, the original reference was about the excellence of gaiters in general. I bought the Gore-Tex
ones because they weren't much more than the non Gore-Tex ones. I've no idea what the point was,
I'm new to all this and 'Gore-Tex' = 'good' I suppose, in my mind, but I stand to be corrected.

I'm sure they are good.

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john goldfine said:

"Paul Rooney" <[email hidden]> wrote in > Why do

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you need breathable gaiters?

I don't think gaiters are really quite invented yet, or at least I've never found a pair that does
everything I want: on/off easily, easy lace access, no sag, easy to adjust all straps with wet and
cold hands, stays put, long wearing under-foot strap--not to mention keeping water and junk out AND
not allowing build up of a lot of moisture inside from sweat that can't escape out the tightened
top (but if the top is loosened. the gaiter sags....) I've taken off gaiters and found my lower
trousers drenched--on a warm sunny day. Hence the Goretex, I suppose.

The only ones I've seen close up are nothing like airtight, and look like they'd allow a reasonably
free flow of air out of the top. I guess some of them aren't like this. On a warm sunny day I'd be
wearing trainers and shorts anyway!

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"Paul Rooney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > The only ones I've seen close up are nothing
like airtight, and look

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like they'd allow a reasonably free flow of air out of the top. I guess some of them aren't like
this. On a warm sunny day I'd be wearing trainers and shorts anyway!

Alas, for me walking in the UK means carrying a pack all the time, and keeping that light means
eliminating frills like trainers (not that my bunions could take trainers these days) and shorts.
All my UK walking has been in the first five months of the year....

john goldfine said:

Alas, for me walking in the UK means carrying a pack all the time, and keeping that light means
eliminating frills like trainers (not that my bunions could take trainers these days) and shorts.
All my UK walking has been in the first five months of the year....

I don't quite follow - trainers and shorts *are* light.

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john goldfine said:

I don't quite follow - trainers and shorts *are* light.

Not so light I can afford to haul them over hill and dale on my back if they aren't definitely going
to be used. Boots and long trousers (and gaiters) I can wear whatever the conditions, even at the
possible cost of a little discomfort; trainers and shorts I can't necessarily wear, which means I'm
not able to justify packing and carrying them.

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john goldfine said:

I don't quite follow - trainers and shorts *are* light.

Not so light I can afford to haul them over hill and dale on my back if they aren't definitely
going to be used. Boots and long trousers (and gaiters) I can wear whatever the conditions, even at
the possible cost of a little discomfort; trainers and shorts I can't necessarily wear, which means
I'm not able to justify packing and carrying them.

I see - you are carrying everything with you for the whole trip.

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