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"Joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I'm a little peeved that Boston doesn't use the chip
time as the

"official"

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time. Does anyone know why this is? It seems silly
that they do

something

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progressive like let the women start in front, but they
still use the gun start to clock your official time. Every
other race in the world uses

chip

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time. It just seems stupid.

I've ran hundreds of races with a timing chip and I have
never, ever seen results posted where the chip time was
considered your official race time.

Gun time is always used as the official result where I
come from.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "The most
insecure people are the ones you see, putting other people
down constantly."

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Joe said:

Well I'm glad I couldn't run yesterday's Boston Marathon.
It was hotter than hell. At least it wasn't humid.

I managed to see my wife at mile 17 and 25. She finished
92nd among women with a time of 3:23 and a chip time of
3:19. The heat got to her by mile
23. She must have drank a gallon of fluids on the course.
She credits that to her good finish. She said all she
did was drink and drink and drink some more. She was
the fourth woman from the state of Wisconsin where we
live.

I'm a little peeved that Boston doesn't use the chip time
as the "official" time. Does anyone know why this is? It
seems silly that they do something progressive like let
the women start in front, but they still use the gun start
to clock your official time. Every other race in the world
uses chip time. It just seems stupid.

Joe

hey, congrats to your wife on her great finish at Boston.

Cam

A different but simalar situation occured in the Vineman 1/2
IM Triathlon a couple of years ago. Triathlon is always
scored by chip time or handicapped start time. On this day
an Age Group athlete was I think the overall winner but I'm
sure he was in the top 3 and wanted to claim prize money.
The pros that were beaten thought that this was unfair since
they would have gone faster if they had seen him and been
able to race with him.

The promoter desided to award both athletes equal prize
money. In the grand scheme of things it didn't cost him that
much and he made everyone happy.

Steve W.

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Well I'm glad I couldn't run yesterday's Boston Marathon.
It was hotter than hell. At least it wasn't humid.

I managed to see my wife at mile 17 and 25. She finished
92nd among women with a time of 3:23 and a chip time of
3:19. The heat got to her by mile
23. She must have drank a gallon of fluids on the course.
She credits that to her good finish. She said all she
did was drink and drink and drink some more. She was
the fourth woman from the state of Wisconsin where we
live.

I'm a little peeved that Boston doesn't use the chip time
as the "official" time. Does anyone know why this is? It
seems silly that they do something progressive like let
the women start in front, but they still use the gun start
to clock your official time. Every other race in the world
uses chip time. It just seems stupid.

Joe

That happened to a guy I know at Muncie Endurathon back in
99. He won but raced in the age group division instead of
elite. He won but was ineligible for the $750 prize money.

"Steve W." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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A different but simalar situation occured in the Vineman
1/2 IM Triathlon a couple of years ago. Triathlon is
always scored by chip time or handicapped start time. On
this day an Age Group athlete was I think the overall
winner but I'm sure he was in the top 3 and wanted to
claim prize money. The pros that were beaten thought that
this was unfair since they would have gone faster if they
had seen him and been able to race with him.

The promoter desided to award both athletes equal prize
money. In the grand scheme of things it didn't cost him
that much and he made everyone happy.

Steve W.

"Joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Quoted message said:

Well I'm glad I couldn't run yesterday's Boston
Marathon. It was hotter than hell. At least it wasn't
humid.

I managed to see my wife at mile 17 and 25. She finished
92nd among

women

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with a time of 3:23 and a chip time of 3:19. The heat
got to her by

mile

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23. She must have drank a gallon of fluids on the
course. She credits

that

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to her good finish. She said all she did was drink and
drink and drink

some

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more. She was the fourth woman from the state of
Wisconsin where we

live.

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Quoted message said:

I'm a little peeved that Boston doesn't use the chip
time as the

"official"

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

time. Does anyone know why this is? It seems silly that
they do

something

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

progressive like let the women start in front, but they
still use the

gun

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start to clock your official time. Every other race in
the world uses

chip

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time. It just seems stupid.

Joe

"Joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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I know Chicago Marathon uses chip time as official.
Maybe I am mistaken about other races using chip time
as official time. It still seems stupid to me,
especially when it would have made a difference of 15
places for my wife.

I believe you´re mistaken about Chicago as well - I find it
quite impossible that chip times could be used to award
gender or division places.

It is possible - although I´ve seen only one such case -
that the results can be listed according to chip times, but
that doesn´t make them "official" in any sense.

Anders

From the USATF Rulebook

RULE 245

FINISH LINE RECORDING AND TIMING

1. Officials at the finish should record each number as the
athlete completes the race, along with the athlete's
finish time. The order in which the athletes cross the
finish line will be the official finish position.

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It is possible - although I´ve seen only one such case -
that the results can be listed according to chip times, but
that doesn´t make them "official" in any sense.

The White Rock Marathon in Dallas uses chip time to
determine all age-group placings. IIRC only the top five men
and women are ranked by gun time.

--
Brian P. Baresch Fort Worth, Texas, USA Professional editing
and proofreading

If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston
Churchill

I stand corrected.

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From the USATF Rulebook

RULE 245

FINISH LINE RECORDING AND TIMING

1. Officials at the finish should record each number as
the athlete completes the race, along with the
athlete's finish time. The order in

which

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the athletes cross the finish line will be the official
finish position.