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Brifters + Canti's - adjustment barrel lacking

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  1. My Cannondale T2000 tourer has Ultegra brifters and Shimano (probably
    BR-550) front canti's. The front pads are wearing. Looked for an adjusting
    barrel to take up some slack. I don't have one . . . anywhere.

    Quoting Sheldon (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/canti-trad.html):
    "A very few bicycles are actually supplied without adjusting barrels for the
    brakes. These are usually bicycles which have frames intended for use with
    upright handlebars, but have had drop handlebars installed as an
    afterthought. (Brake levers for upright bars usually contain adjusters;
    those for drop bars usually don't.) This is not acceptable, and you should
    not accept a bicycle which does not have adjusters; it is a very minor task
    to install them, for any competent bicycle shop."

    Sounds like a drop bar + canti's issue in my case, huh? So whaddyado?

    I found a 1999 r.b.t. thread (Peter, Alex Wetmore) referencing these:
    http://teamspirit.net/comp.html. Is this a good way to go, or is this a
    "give it to the LBS and have them put in something traditional?"

    TIA.

  2. Neil Brooks said:


    I found a 1999 r.b.t. thread (Peter, Alex Wetmore) referencing these:
    http://teamspirit.net/comp.html. Is this a good way to go, or is


    this a

    Quoted message said:

    "give it to the LBS and have them put in something traditional?"

    TIA.

    As Sheldon suggests, a cable hanger with adjuster mounted on the
    steerer tube is the traditional method. The inline version might be
    difficult to fit if you don't have a lot of cable housing below the
    handlebar.

    Here's the mega-traditional version:
    http://harriscyclery.net/site/page.cfm?PageID=49&SKU=BR1214
    I have one on my single-speed that includes a quick-release: old-school
    Dia-Compe.

    Jeff

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, Neil

    Brooks said:

    My Cannondale T2000 tourer has Ultegra brifters and Shimano (probably
    BR-550) front canti's. The front pads are wearing. Looked for an adjusting
    barrel to take up some slack. I don't have one . . . anywhere.

    Quoting Sheldon (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/canti-trad.html):
    "A very few bicycles are actually supplied without adjusting barrels for the
    brakes. These are usually bicycles which have frames intended for use with
    upright handlebars, but have had drop handlebars installed as an
    afterthought. (Brake levers for upright bars usually contain adjusters;
    those for drop bars usually don't.) This is not acceptable, and you should
    not accept a bicycle which does not have adjusters; it is a very minor task
    to install them, for any competent bicycle shop."

    Sounds like a drop bar + canti's issue in my case, huh? So whaddyado?

    Assuming the brakes and brifters are compatible (i.e. your brifters
    provide enough pull) you can either install--or have installed--an
    inline cable adjuster or opt for a new cable hanger with an integral
    barrel adjuster. An easy and inexpensive fix.

    A visit to your LBS will quickly decide the issue.

    luke

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  5. I have that problem - drop bars and cantis, hence no barrel adjusters,
    so went for the in-line ones last year. I'm not sure if they're "INCA"
    brand, but they were about $10 CDN at my LBS, and work great. They seem
    to have even more range than a typical barrel adjuster, which has
    allowed me to get right down to the 'replace' line on the front brake
    pads (Kool Stops), something I couldn't do without readjusting the
    brakes themselves before.

  6. Neil Brooks said:

    My Cannondale T2000 tourer has Ultegra brifters and Shimano (probably
    BR-550) front canti's. The front pads are wearing. Looked for an
    adjusting barrel to take up some slack. I don't have one . . .
    anywhere.

    Quoting Sheldon (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/canti-trad.html):
    "A very few bicycles are actually supplied without adjusting barrels
    for the brakes. These are usually bicycles which have frames intended
    for use with upright handlebars, but have had drop handlebars
    installed as an afterthought. (Brake levers for upright bars usually
    contain adjusters; those for drop bars usually don't.) This is not
    acceptable, and you should not accept a bicycle which does not have
    adjusters; it is a very minor task to install them, for any competent
    bicycle shop."

    Sounds like a drop bar + canti's issue in my case, huh? So whaddyado?

    I found a 1999 r.b.t. thread (Peter, Alex Wetmore) referencing these:
    http://teamspirit.net/comp.html. Is this a good way to go, or is
    this a "give it to the LBS and have them put in something
    traditional?"

    How about loosening the bolt, pulling a smidgeon of cable through, and
    retightening? Too obvious?

    Bill "back from frigid DC" S.

  7. Bill Sornson said:

    How about loosening the bolt, pulling a smidgeon of cable through, and
    retightening? Too obvious?

    And front brakes very rarely need adjusting, because the rim doesn't get
    gritty and there's little cable stretch over the shorter length.

  8. Bill Sornson said:

    How about loosening the bolt, pulling a smidgeon of cable through, and
    retightening? Too obvious?

    Bill "back from frigid DC" S.

    Nope. Just obvious enough ;-)

    That's how I've been doing it, but it seems like a band-aid solution to the
    manufacturer's brain fart.

    I'm still going to put on an inline adjuster. This is the kind of thing
    that you should be able to, ideally, fine tune while riding.

    Thanks for the feedback, all.

  9. "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Neil Brooks said:

    My Cannondale T2000 tourer has Ultegra brifters and Shimano (probably
    BR-550) front canti's. The front pads are wearing. Looked for an
    adjusting barrel to take up some slack. I don't have one . . .
    anywhere.

    Quoting Sheldon (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/canti-trad.html):
    "A very few bicycles are actually supplied without adjusting barrels
    for the brakes. These are usually bicycles which have frames intended
    for use with upright handlebars, but have had drop handlebars
    installed as an afterthought. (Brake levers for upright bars usually
    contain adjusters; those for drop bars usually don't.) This is not
    acceptable, and you should not accept a bicycle which does not have
    adjusters; it is a very minor task to install them, for any competent
    bicycle shop."


    Isn't this a fairly common cyclocross setup? (canti + drops)

  10. Bryan said:

    "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Neil Brooks said:

    My Cannondale T2000 tourer has Ultegra brifters and Shimano
    (probably BR-550) front canti's. The front pads are wearing.
    Looked for an adjusting barrel to take up some slack. I don't have
    one . . . anywhere.

    Quoting Sheldon (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/canti-trad.html):
    "A very few bicycles are actually supplied without adjusting barrels
    for the brakes. These are usually bicycles which have frames
    intended for use with upright handlebars, but have had drop
    handlebars installed as an afterthought. (Brake levers for upright
    bars usually contain adjusters; those for drop bars usually don't.)
    This is not acceptable, and you should not accept a bicycle which
    does not have adjusters; it is a very minor task to install them,
    for any competent bicycle shop."


    Isn't this a fairly common cyclocross setup? (canti + drops)

    JFTR, I did not write anything quoted above.
    --
    Mister Bill ("Oh, Noooooooooo...."😉

  11. Bryan said:
    Quoted message said:
    Neil Brooks said:

    My Cannondale T2000 tourer has Ultegra brifters and Shimano (probably
    BR-550) front canti's. The front pads are wearing. Looked for an
    adjusting barrel to take up some slack. I don't have one . . .
    anywhere.

    Quoting Sheldon (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/canti-trad.html):
    "A very few bicycles are actually supplied without adjusting barrels
    for the brakes. These are usually bicycles which have frames intended
    for use with upright handlebars, but have had drop handlebars
    installed as an afterthought. (Brake levers for upright bars usually
    contain adjusters; those for drop bars usually don't.) This is not
    acceptable, and you should not accept a bicycle which does not have
    adjusters; it is a very minor task to install them, for any competent
    bicycle shop."

    Isn't this a fairly common cyclocross setup? (canti + drops)

    "Cantis + drops" is, indeed, the usual setup for cyclocross.

    The point I was making is that if the designer and mechanic are
    COMPETENT, there WILL be adjusting barrels installed for both brakes.

    If there are no adjusting barrels provided, the bike is dangerous and
    defective. Nobody should accept such incompetence.

    Sheldon "S.O.P." Brown
    +---------------------------------------------------------+
    | "Contrariwise," continued Tweedledee, "if it was so, |
    | it might be, and if it were so, it would be; |
    | but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic!" |
    | --Lewis Carroll, "Through the Looking Glass" |
    +---------------------------------------------------------+
    Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
    Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
    http://harriscyclery.com
    Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
    http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com

  12. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Neil Brooks said:

    My Cannondale T2000 tourer has Ultegra brifters and Shimano (probably
    BR-550) front canti's. The front pads are wearing. Looked for an
    adjusting barrel to take up some slack. I don't have one . . .
    anywhere.

    Quoted message said:

    "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Quoting Sheldon (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/canti-trad.html):
    "A very few bicycles are actually supplied without adjusting barrels
    for the brakes. These are usually bicycles which have frames intended
    for use with upright handlebars, but have had drop handlebars
    installed as an afterthought. (Brake levers for upright bars usually
    contain adjusters; those for drop bars usually don't.) This is not
    acceptable, and you should not accept a bicycle which does not have
    adjusters; it is a very minor task to install them, for any competent
    bicycle shop."

    Bryan said:

    Isn't this a fairly common cyclocross setup? (canti + drops)

    Yes, it is. Inline adjusters have become very standard on
    cross bikes.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  13. Bill Sornson said:

    JFTR, I did not write anything quoted above.

    I'm sorry to have repeatd the attrribution error.
    oops.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  14. A Muzi said:
    Bill Sornson said:

    JFTR, I did not write anything quoted above.

    I'm sorry to have repeatd the attrribution error.
    oops.

    I don't believe you DID repeat it, Andrew (not that I can see at least);
    just Bryan.

    No biggie...

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