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  1. I've been getting this creaking noise, not completely synchronized with
    pedaling, but clearly related.

    It's a ti frame with an Ultegra BB.

    I take it out, and on the casing of BB cartridge (where it faced the
    bottom of the B shell) and on the inside of the BB shell is this brown
    crud that looks a lot like rust. It's very, very hard and while solvent
    and degreaser reduce it to a much thinner coating, it doesn't come off.

    While these two parts are, I guess, technically not in contact with
    each other there's not much clearance, either.

    Is this actually corrosion caused by the near contact between the
    titanium and the (stainless steel? aluminum?) casing of the BB
    cartridge? Or is it just crud that's stuck on real good?

    After cleaning everything thoroughly and reinstalling, the noise is
    gone. I surmise that it was this buildup of ...stuff... between the
    cartridge and the shell that was causing the noise, but there was a lot
    of other grit and grime down there also, so it may have been something
    else.

    Thoughts?

    RichC

  2. so how'd the grease look?

  3. Quoted message said:

    so how'd the grease look?

    What grease do you mean? You wouldn't ordinarily grease the entire
    interior of the BB shell when installing a sealed cartridge BB, would
    you?

    RichC

  4. <snippage of Q re brown gunk>

    Rich -

    Water, carrying dust, grit, and all sorts of road grime can enter the
    bb shell via the seat tube or perhaps a second cable guide hole (one of
    my bikes has two). This marvelous mixture probably worked its way into
    your bb threads through the slight motion of the bb cup threads in the
    shell and was combined with your anti-seize or grease and ground into
    the tenacious compound you encountered.

    Probably.

    App

  5. something left over from manufacture or last repair?
    hard brown globs are frequently found in metal recesses where cleaning
    procedures missed their removal
    clang clang
    sorry about the grease. bummer

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    hard brown globs are frequently found in metal recesses where cleaning
    procedures missed their removal

    find a new dentist

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    Quoted message said:

    so how'd the grease look?

    What grease do you mean? You wouldn't ordinarily grease the entire
    interior of the BB shell when installing a sealed cartridge BB, would
    you?

    RichC

    http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQcartdg.shtml

    --
    DTW .../\.../\.../\...

    I've spent most of my money on mountain biking and windsurfing.
    The rest, I've just wasted.

  8. parks does better writing than...
    no seriously, brown glop is common. finding absolved, hardened grease
    outside cheops city is unlikely
    maybe death valley, feenix...
    model t's still have grease last we looked in 1957
    dentists are a problem hair
    let me tell you about my first skin doctor...
    mr. colnuggo

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    Quoted message said:

    "rdclark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    so how'd the grease look?

    What grease do you mean? You wouldn't ordinarily grease the entire
    interior of the BB shell when installing a sealed cartridge BB, would
    you?

    RichC

    http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQcartdg.shtml

    Yes, and...?

    You grease the threads. Nothing in there about slopping grease all over the
    whole cartridge. The brown stuff was in the middle of the BB shell, at the
    bottom. I guess it's possible that excess grease accumulated there over
    time, perhaps combined with moisture that got in through various means over
    the years. And turned into a hardened greasy compound.

    But I still wonder if the proximity of the ti with the aluminum of the BB
    casing had anything to do with it.

    RichC

  10. rdclark said:

    What grease do you mean? You wouldn't ordinarily grease the entire
    interior of the BB shell when installing a sealed cartridge BB, would
    you?

    It'd be good for keeping the water mostly off your components. When
    repacking a cup/cone hub or BB I tend to stuff as much grease in tehre as
    will go. It doesn't hurt.

    Jasper

  11. is this true: the interactions of two metals usually produces a
    lightly colored substance, mostly off whites or very light browns,
    blues, then there's copper. what does Ti-Al produce? they bond an gaul
    right? that's where the copper anti-seize comes in.

    the grease deal is-grease floats on water, is not water proof, and from
    the "refinery" contains water as small droplets unless headed to the B1
    hanger. very clean paint-wipe it out- so no h20 adheres, is more
    effective.

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    the grease deal is-grease floats on water, is not water proof, and from
    the "refinery" contains water as small droplets unless headed to the B1
    hanger. very clean paint-wipe it out- so no h20 adheres, is more
    effective.

    Elementary School English 101:
    http://www.philwood.com/webcatolog/page18.htm
    -tom

  13. well its that time again
    spread some more philwood over the ferrari

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    well its that time again
    spread some more philwood over the ferrari

    and for those who got past grade school, Dino isn't just a purple dinosaur.

  15. you know i have never seen a dino but i've been to the MNH, LR, WG
    but silicone is water soluble is it not?
    but we have silicone waxs.
    the grease coat idea is a zero.
    grease flats on water.
    wax adheres tightly to paint su[posedly keeping the water out
    so installing a BB-cleaning and a swab of fresh rusto
    followed by blue loctite on the inbetween area
    is more rustproof than spreadin grease around
    think!!
    put a wad of brease at the BB then water seeps in runs down the tube
    and right down under the grease wads thin ouiter lip
    lifting the sucker lika rug ina windstrom
    lika raft off cuba
    lika...
    and as for the dew point...

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    you know i have never seen a dino but i've been to the MNH, LR, WG

    Now you have:
    http://www.tom-style.net/mt/archives/images/62942_1092658075-thumb.jpg
    and you don't even have to be a Fred to own a Dino.
    -tom

  17. i care for the bruno 544
    a parallel universe
    akin to the 'B' merc

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    i care for the bruno 544
    a parallel universe
    akin to the 'B' merc

    Or the 007 Austin Martin DB5 with the ejector passenger seat.
    -tom

  19. Feds Evacuate Hanford Nuclear Workers

    NEVER DRIVE FAST WITH A PISSENGER

  20. Tom Nakashima said:

    Now you have:
    http://www.tom-style.net/mt/archives/images/62942_1092658075-thumb.jpg
    and you don't even have to be a Fred to own a Dino.

    The Dino is possibly one of the best looking Ferraris ever.

    Shame that it performs like a VW Beetle.

    Jasper (ok, ok, I'm being unfair. But not THAT unfair.)

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