BUSTED - shin stress fracture

Scott Williams said:

On glimmer of sunlight in this sad (and boring) saga is that I got referred to PT at the running
clinic, where they can look at my form and mechanics and offer me some advice about these chronic
shin splints. That should be interesting.

That's a bummer about your shins, but having a PT doing a gait analysis and perhaps some other
standard analyses could turn out to be very helpful in the long term - both in terms of identifying
issues as well as getting exercises to remedy them. Good luck.

Dot

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Dot said:

Scott Williams said:

On glimmer of sunlight in this sad (and boring) saga is that I got referred to PT at the running
clinic, where they can look at my form and mechanics and offer me some advice about these chronic
shin splints. That should be interesting.

That's a bummer about your shins, but having a PT doing a gait analysis and perhaps some other
standard analyses could turn out to be very helpful in the long term - both in terms of
identifying issues as well as getting exercises to remedy them. Good luck.

Dot

Thanks, Dot.

Yeah, my doc mentioned that, in her experience, it's a problem very much related to high arches,
which I have in spades.

I'll report on what all they do up there and what info they pass along.

Scott

Scott Williams said:

Well, yesterday's test run went not well at all. I felt residual shin soreness at the time, and
this morning, my right shin was quite sore.

So, I bit the bullet and got an appointment to see the sports doc. She ordered an x-ray and the
stress fracture was plainly visible, just a little bump on the bone, but it packs a nice punch.

I have permission to do a gentle test-run 3-4 weeks out and see how it feels. Until then, it's
riding the bike on the rollers and lifting weights. Whoooo hooooo.

On glimmer of sunlight in this sad (and boring) saga is that I got referred to PT at the running
clinic, where they can look at my form and mechanics and offer me some advice about these chronic
shin splints. That should be interesting.

So now, I go into rehab hibernation.

Ciao.

Scott

From my experience, you're lucky, Scott. I had a stress fracture in 2001 (tibia, just beneath my
right knee) that knocked me out for 10 weeks. Couldn't even walk without great pain for 6-7 weeks.
But it was summer and I could swim and bike outdoors. Good luck.

Robert

Robert Karp said:

Scott Williams said:

Well, yesterday's test run went not well at all. I felt residual shin soreness at the time, and
this morning, my right shin was quite sore.

So, I bit the bullet and got an appointment to see the sports doc. She ordered an x-ray and the
stress fracture was plainly visible, just a little bump on the bone, but it packs a nice punch.

I have permission to do a gentle test-run 3-4 weeks out and see how it feels. Until then, it's
riding the bike on the rollers and lifting weights. Whoooo hooooo.

On glimmer of sunlight in this sad (and boring) saga is that I got referred to PT at the running
clinic, where they can look at my form and mechanics and offer me some advice about these chronic
shin splints. That should be interesting.

So now, I go into rehab hibernation.

Ciao.

Scott

From my experience, you're lucky, Scott. I had a stress fracture in 2001 (tibia, just beneath my
right knee) that knocked me out for 10 weeks. Couldn't even walk without great pain for 6-7 weeks.
But it was summer and I could swim and bike outdoors. Good luck.

Robert

Youch. That's awful. My doc wouldn't give me a definite healing time -- she said there was a
tremendous amount of variability. (Mine is a third of the way down the tibia on the medial side.)

So, was all well and good after that episode, or are splints something you still must deal with
occasionally?

Scott

Scott Williams said:

Robert Karp said:

Scott Williams said:

Well, yesterday's test run went not well at all. I felt residual shin soreness at the time, and
this morning, my right shin was quite sore.

So, I bit the bullet and got an appointment to see the sports doc. She ordered an x-ray and the
stress fracture was plainly visible, just a little bump on the bone, but it packs a nice punch.

I have permission to do a gentle test-run 3-4 weeks out and see how it feels. Until then, it's
riding the bike on the rollers and lifting weights. Whoooo hooooo.

On glimmer of sunlight in this sad (and boring) saga is that I got referred to PT at the running
clinic, where they can look at my form and mechanics and offer me some advice about these
chronic shin splints. That should be interesting.

So now, I go into rehab hibernation.

Ciao.

Scott

From my experience, you're lucky, Scott. I had a stress fracture in 2001 (tibia, just beneath my
right knee) that knocked me out for 10 weeks. Couldn't even walk without great pain for 6-7
weeks. But it was summer and I could swim and bike outdoors. Good luck.

Robert

Youch. That's awful. My doc wouldn't give me a definite healing time -- she said there was a
tremendous amount of variability. (Mine is a third of the way down the tibia on the medial side.)

So, was all well and good after that episode, or are splints something you still must deal with
occasionally?

I've had stress fracture problems for years, and I think I've finally learned to deal with them. I
do lots of running on dirt paths and avoid concrete at all possible. I do hills or bleachers instead
of sprints for speed workouts. I use an exercise bike or elliptical trainer 1-2 days a week instead
of running. And most importantly, I put myself on the shelf for a week or so if I feel ANY
discomfort in my shin.

But somehow, I keep getting faster every year.

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Scott Williams said:

Well, yesterday's test run went not well at all. I felt residual shin soreness at the time, and
this morning, my right shin was quite sore.

Quoted message said:

So, I bit the bullet and got an appointment to see the sports doc. She ordered an x-ray and the
stress fracture was plainly visible, just a little bump on the bone, but it packs a nice punch.

Quoted message said:

I have permission to do a gentle test-run 3-4 weeks out and see how it feels. Until then, it's
riding the bike on the rollers and lifting weights. Whoooo hooooo.

Quoted message said:

On glimmer of sunlight in this sad (and boring) saga is that I got referred to PT at the running
clinic, where they can look at my form and mechanics and offer me some advice about these chronic
shin splints. That should be interesting.

Quoted message said:

So now, I go into rehab hibernation.

Quoted message said:

Ciao.

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Scott

Good luck healing Scott...don't screw around with a stress fracture. MAKE SURE it is healed before
you resume running. Cross train the hell out of yourself if you want, but stress fractures can
linger a long time if they aren't completely gone. Andy Hass

Quoted message said:

Good luck healing Scott...don't screw around with a stress fracture. MAKE SURE it is healed before
you resume running. Cross train the hell out of yourself if you want, but stress fractures can
linger a long time if they aren't completely gone. Andy Hass

Thanks, Andy. I'm taking out my frustrations on my bicycle, riding the rollers near AT for an hour
every morning before work. I sure as hell don't want to balloon up so I can pound my shins harder
next time around.

Consider the advice taken. I've had my fill of running on a stress fracture. Dexter-A2 is already
down the clapper -- I'm not running it again without training properly, so I'm in no hurry.
Impatience got me where I am today ...

Have you heard anything good or bad about the running clinic at MedSport?

Scott

Glenn Tanner said:

Scott Williams said:

Robert Karp said:

Scott Williams <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Well, yesterday's test run went not well at all. I felt residual shin soreness at the time, and
> this morning, my right shin was quite sore.
>
> So, I bit the bullet and got an appointment to see the sports doc. She ordered an x-ray and the
> stress fracture was plainly visible, just a little bump on the bone, but it packs a nice punch.
>
> I have permission to do a gentle test-run 3-4 weeks out and see how it feels. Until then, it's
> riding the bike on the rollers and lifting weights. Whoooo hooooo.
>
> On glimmer of sunlight in this sad (and boring) saga is that I got referred to PT at the
> running clinic, where they can look at my form and mechanics and offer me some advice about
> these chronic shin splints. That should be interesting.
>
> So now, I go into rehab hibernation.
>
> Ciao.
>
> Scott

From my experience, you're lucky, Scott. I had a stress fracture in 2001 (tibia, just beneath my
right knee) that knocked me out for 10 weeks. Couldn't even walk without great pain for 6-7
weeks. But it was summer and I could swim and bike outdoors. Good luck.

Robert

Youch. That's awful. My doc wouldn't give me a definite healing time -- she said there was a
tremendous amount of variability. (Mine is a third of the way down the tibia on the medial side.)

So, was all well and good after that episode, or are splints something you still must deal with
occasionally?

I've had stress fracture problems for years, and I think I've finally learned to deal with them. I
do lots of running on dirt paths and avoid concrete at all possible. I do hills or bleachers
instead of sprints for speed workouts. I use an exercise bike or elliptical trainer 1-2 days a
week instead of running. And most importantly, I put myself on the shelf for a week or so if I
feel ANY discomfort in my shin.

But somehow, I keep getting faster every year.

I've been encountering my shin trouble pretty much when I quit combining cycling with my running and
tried to ramp up my running mileage. I may well follow a similar program to yours. I might need that
extra bit of recovery.

Thanks for the input.

Scott

Scott Williams said:

Quoted message said:

Good luck healing Scott...don't screw around with a stress fracture. MAKE SURE it is healed
before you resume running. Cross train the hell out of yourself if you want, but stress fractures
can linger a long time if they aren't completely gone. Andy Hass

Quoted message said:

Thanks, Andy. I'm taking out my frustrations on my bicycle, riding the rollers near AT for an hour
every morning before work. I sure as hell don't want to balloon up so I can pound my shins harder
next time around.

Quoted message said:

Consider the advice taken. I've had my fill of running on a stress fracture. Dexter-A2 is already
down the clapper -- I'm not running it again without training properly, so I'm in no hurry.
Impatience got me where I am today ...

Quoted message said:

Have you heard anything good or bad about the running clinic at MedSport?

Quoted message said:

Scott

--I'm not sure. The Umich team might use some of the people there, the key is knowing exactly who is
good and who is bad. That I can't help you with, I haven't needed them yet (knock on wood). Maybe
ask around the AA track club or something for who is good? Andy Hass