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  1. A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ

  2. Andre Jute said:

    A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ

    My watches are all carbon fiber. So there back.

    Pee Ess-- When I want to feel retro, I wear my steel watch. It is
    much slower than my carbon ones.

  3. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    Andre Jute said:

    A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ

    My watches are all carbon fiber. So there back.

    Pee Ess-- When I want to feel retro, I wear my steel watch. It is
    much slower than my carbon ones.

    I have a titanium ring, which I occasionally wear as a high-performance
    wedding band. The ring was a prize at a charity ride my club did. It's
    quite a conversation piece when you hand it to other people and ask them
    to guess what metal it is; Ti is light and lustrous and not usually
    encountered in one's daily life.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
    "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

  4. Quoted message said:
    Andre Jute said:

    A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ

    My watches are all carbon fiber. So there back.

    Pee Ess-- When I want to feel retro, I wear my steel watch. It is
    much slower than my carbon ones.

    That's odd, the one thing that peeves me about the stainless watch
    that's on my wrist now is that it runs consistently fast, even after
    having it serviced and adjusted. 🙁

    Of course, 5 PM comes that much sooner every day 🙂

    nate

    --
    replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
    http://members.cox.net/njnagel

  5. Ryan Cousineau said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    Andre Jute said:

    A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ

    Quoted message said:

    My watches are all carbon fiber. So there back.

    Quoted message said:

    Pee Ess-- When I want to feel retro, I wear my steel watch. It is
    much slower than my carbon ones.

    I have a titanium ring, which I occasionally wear as a high-performance
    wedding band. The ring was a prize at a charity ride my club did. It's
    quite a conversation piece when you hand it to other people and ask them
    to guess what metal it is; Ti is light and lustrous and not usually
    encountered in one's daily life.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden]://www.wiredcola.com/
    "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
    "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

    A buddy of mine and his wife wear titanium rings as their wedding
    bands, because they wanted to boycott the African mining industry.

  6. Nate Nagel said:
    Quoted message said:

    On May 23, 7:34 pm, Andre Jute <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ

    Quoted message said:

    My watches are all carbon fiber. So there back.

    Quoted message said:

    Pee Ess-- When I want to feel retro, I wear my steel watch. It is
    much slower than my carbon ones.

    That's odd, the one thing that peeves me about the stainless watch
    that's on my wrist now is that it runs consistently fast, even after
    having it serviced and adjusted. 🙁

    Of course, 5 PM comes that much sooner every day 🙂

    nate

    --
    replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel

    The truly successful wear watches, but pay no attention to them.

    tf

  7. Hank said:

    A buddy of mine and his wife wear titanium rings as their wedding bands,
    because they wanted to boycott the African mining industry.

    Where does titanium ore comes from?

  8. Andre Jute said:

    A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ

    Dude:

    My glass frames are made of titanium. I used to go through frames
    every year. Now, I've had the same frame for 5 years. I bends and
    twists, but won't brake. I also have a custom ti frame. Bought it for
    $500. It doesn't rust, It doesn't get old, It doesn't break. Once A
    year, I get sandpaper and sand it a little. It looks new again. Maybe,
    in 1000 years, If I keep sanding it, It will dissolve into thin air.

    Andres

  9. Quoted post said:
    Andre Jute said:

    A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ

    Dude:

    Is that me? My name is Andre. How'd you do, Andres.

    Quoted message said:

    My glass frames are made of titanium. I used to go through frames
    every year.

    Ah, to be young and reckless.

    Quoted message said:

    Now, I've had the same frame for 5 years. I bends and
    twists, but won't brake.

    I've had the same gold spectacle frames over thirty years. I got tired
    of plated frames getting dull or pitting from perspiration and had a
    thin frame machined to my own design from a billet. It is worth more
    now than it cost when new.

    Quoted message said:

    I also have a custom ti frame. Bought it for
    $500. It doesn't rust, It doesn't get old, It doesn't break. Once A
    year, I get sandpaper and sand it a little. It looks new again. Maybe,
    in 1000 years, If I keep sanding it, It will dissolve into thin air.

    Congratulations. Does your frame builder have a URL?

    Quoted message said:

    Andres

  10. Quoted message said:
    Andre Jute said:

    A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ

    My watches are all carbon fiber.  So there back.

    Pee Ess-- When I want to feel retro, I wear my steel watch.  It is
    much slower than my carbon ones.

    I'm not macho enough for great big stainless steel watches.

    Andre Jute
    http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/WATCHES.html

  11. Quoted message said:
    Nate Nagel said:
    Quoted message said:

    On May 23, 7:34 pm, Andre Jute <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    >watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My watches are all carbon fiber.  So there back.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Pee Ess-- When I want to feel retro, I wear my steel watch.  It is
    much slower than my carbon ones.

    Quoted message said:

    That's odd, the one thing that peeves me about the stainless watch
    that's on my wrist now is that it runs consistently fast, even after
    having it serviced and adjusted. 🙁

    Quoted message said:

    Of course, 5 PM comes that much sooner every day 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    nate

    Quoted message said:

    --
    replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel

    The truly successful wear watches, but pay no attention to them.

    tf

    I'm deeply horrified that you should impugn my character by implying
    that I use a watch in my work; I work until the job is done, without
    reference to time. It is only in one of my hobbies, cycling, that I
    wear a watch (and that's a bit superfluous as both my favourite bike's
    computer control module and my heart rate monitor display clocks --
    the wrist flyback is just more convenient to operate on the fly
    without disturbing the desired settings on the other dials). Even when
    I was in advertising, and at least theoretically had office hours, I
    didn't wear a watch or carry money or cards; that is why one has
    assistants. Mind you, my favourite watch to wear cycling has a slide
    rule bezel http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/YULtideUTC.html so
    while I'm lying on my back on a parapet beside a susurrus stream I can
    still exercise my mind by doing abstruse electronic calculations for
    my other hobby, designing retro tube audio amplifiers
    http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/JUTE%20ON%20AMPS.htm

    Andre Jute
    http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/OTHER%20MATTERS%20ARISING.html

  12. -snip ti-

    Hank said:

    A buddy of mine and his wife wear titanium rings as their wedding
    bands, because they wanted to boycott the African mining industry.

    Hmmm. So the Gulag is 'better'?

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    <www.yellowjersey.org/>
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
    ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

  13. Quoted message said:
    Andre Jute said:

    A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ

    Quoted message said:

    My glass frames are made of titanium. I used to go through frames
    every year. Now, I've had the same frame for 5 years. I bends and
    twists, but won't brake. I also have a custom ti frame. Bought it for
    $500. It doesn't rust, It doesn't get old, It doesn't break. Once A
    year, I get sandpaper and sand it a little. It looks new again. Maybe,
    in 1000 years, If I keep sanding it, It will dissolve into thin air.

    "won't brake" ?
    Marian has the same problem without titanium.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    <www.yellowjersey.org/>
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
    ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

  14. A Muzi said:

    -snip ti-

    Hank said:

    A buddy of mine and his wife wear titanium rings as their wedding
    bands, because they wanted to boycott the African mining industry.

    Hmmm. So the Gulag is 'better'?

    What gulag?

    Half of it comes either from Australia or Canada. 20% comes from South
    Africa. Less than 10% comes from former Soviet republics, mainly the
    Ukraine. If you're buying wedding rings, it would be neither difficult
    nor unimportant to vet the source of the material.

  15. "nmp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Hank said:

    A buddy of mine and his wife wear titanium rings as their wedding


    bands,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    because they wanted to boycott the African mining industry.

    Where does titanium ore comes from?

    The ground..... ;-)

    Seriously, titanium is the 7th most abundant metal in the earth's crust.
    Australia mines over 30% percent of the ore followed by South Africa and
    Canada.

    Chas.

  16. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    -snip ti-

    Hank said:

    A buddy of mine and his wife wear titanium rings as their wedding
    bands, because they wanted to boycott the African mining industry.

    Quoted message said:
    A Muzi said:

    Hmmm. So the Gulag is 'better'?

    Hank said:

    What gulag?
    Half of it comes either from Australia or Canada. 20% comes from South
    Africa. Less than 10% comes from former Soviet republics, mainly the
    Ukraine. If you're buying wedding rings, it would be neither difficult
    nor unimportant to vet the source of the material.

    Australia, Canada, South Africa, USA, Indonesia along with Russia supply
    the bulk of gold. Slave states like Zimbabwe and Sudan extract
    negligible amounts.

    I was mistaken about Ti.

    Rutile's almost entirely from Canada and South Africa. With other ores,
    add in Australia for the preponderance of Ti. Small sources with
    antipathy toward their citizens include Vietnam and Egypt but not
    Zimbabwe or Sudan.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    <www.yellowjersey.org/>
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
    ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

  17. nmp said:
    Hank said:

    A buddy of mine and his wife wear titanium rings as their wedding bands,
    because they wanted to boycott the African mining industry.

    Quoted message said:

    Where does titanium ore comes from?

    Russia, mostly.

    --

    John ([email hidden])

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Thompson said:
    nmp said:
    Hank said:

    A buddy of mine and his wife wear titanium rings as their wedding
    bands, because they wanted to boycott the African mining industry.

    Quoted message said:

    Where does titanium ore comes from?

    Russia, mostly.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium

    According to Wikipedia:

    Producer Thousands of tons % of total
    Australia 1291.0 30.6
    South Africa 850.0 20.1
    Canada 767.0 18.2
    Norway 382.9 9.1
    Ukraine 357.0 8.5
    Other countries 573.1 13.6
    Total world 4221.0 100.1

  19. A Muzi said:
    Quoted message said:
    Andre Jute said:

    A bike may not be jewelry but titanium is -- several of my sports
    watches are titanium. So there. -- AJ


    Quoted message said:

    My glass frames are made of titanium. I used to go through frames
    every year. Now, I've had the same frame for 5 years. I bends and
    twists, but won't brake. I also have a custom ti frame. Bought it for
    $500. It doesn't rust, It doesn't get old, It doesn't break. Once A
    year, I get sandpaper and sand it a little. It looks new again. Maybe,
    in 1000 years, If I keep sanding it, It will dissolve into thin air.

    "won't brake" ?
    Marian has the same problem without titanium.

    That's why I'm so fast ;-) Who is Marian?

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    <www.yellowjersey.org/>
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
    ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

  20. Tim McNamara said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Thompson said:
    nmp said:

    Hank wrote:

    > A buddy of mine and his wife wear titanium rings as their wedding
    > bands, because they wanted to boycott the African mining industry.
    Where does titanium ore comes from?


    Russia, mostly.

    I think that might be the wrong question. From the Wikipedia article
    Tim cited below, we see

    "About 95% of titanium ore extracted
    from the Earth is destined for refinement
    into titanium dioxide (TiO2), an intensely
    white permanent pigment used in paints,
    paper, toothpaste, and plastics."

    So "most ore extracted" might not be related in any useful way to "most
    metal produced" (as opposed to oxide/pigment production).

    I think the right question to ask is "Where are the large producers of
    titanium /metal/?" Again, the same article points out that turning Ti
    ore into metal is not a trivial job.

    -Mark

    Quoted message said:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium

    According to Wikipedia:

    Producer Thousands of tons % of total
    Australia 1291.0 30.6
    South Africa 850.0 20.1
    Canada 767.0 18.2
    Norway 382.9 9.1
    Ukraine 357.0 8.5
    Other countries 573.1 13.6
    Total world 4221.0 100.1

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