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  1. zzapper said:

    Would readers recommend buying a bike off the web where return
    postage costs in case of problems are significant?

    I'd only buy certain bikes over the web in any event, as there's enough
    variation in frame fit between different models in many cases that it's
    just daft not to try them in person. I'd make exceptions for things
    where I know it'll fit me from having ridden one before and where
    alternatives aren't really an issue (i.e., something like a Birdy).

    Pete.
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  2. Hi,
    Would readers recommend buying a bike off the web where return postage costs in case of problems are
    significant?

    Experiences please.

    zzapper (vim, cygwin, wiki & zsh)
    --

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  3. zzapper said:

    Hi,
    Would readers recommend buying a bike off the web where return
    postage costs in case of problems are significant?

    Only if it's a real bargain or an unusal bike and you can't find similar
    locally.

    I mail ordered a frame that turned out to be slightly too big for my
    liking. Couldn't return it because I didn't realise the mistake until I'd
    built up the bike and actually rode the thing. Fit can be that subtle.
    Still, no regrets because I was able to sell the frame and order the next
    size down. The lost money and time in the process was worth it because
    the frame was an unusual bargain, and the bike turned out brilliant in the
    end.

    Return carriage may cost less than you think, though. You could probably
    return the bike for about £15, using an agency that sends a courier to
    collect from your door.

    ~PB

  4. "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    I mail ordered a frame that turned out to be slightly too big for my
    liking. Couldn't return it because I didn't realise the mistake until I'd
    built up the bike and actually rode the thing. Fit can be that subtle.

    Funny that :-) I ride a 60 cm hybrid and a 54 cm road bike and can adapt to
    both quite easily. As you know, my road bike is "too small" for my 6ft 2ins,
    but I can't see where I'm losing out. I get no adverse pain anywhere, so I'm
    somewhat non plussed as to the benefits of getting a bespoke fitting,
    although there must be some otherwise people wouldn't bother.
    --
    Simon M.

  5. Simon Mason said:

    "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    I mail ordered a frame that turned out to be slightly too big for my
    liking. Couldn't return it because I didn't realise the mistake
    until I'd built up the bike and actually rode the thing. Fit can be
    that subtle.

    Funny that :-) I ride a 60 cm hybrid and a 54 cm road bike and can
    adapt to both quite easily.

    I can adapt to any old size as well, but bikes are more enjoyable for me
    when they're "just right". And perhaps different sizes don't matter so
    much when the bikes are completely different sorts of bikes -- you don't
    expect a hybrid to feel like a race bike, etc.

    Quoted message said:

    As you know, my road bike is "too small"
    for my 6ft 2ins, but I can't see where I'm losing out. I get no
    adverse pain anywhere, so I'm somewhat non plussed as to the benefits
    of getting a bespoke fitting, although there must be some otherwise
    people wouldn't bother.

    On the conrary to loosing out, you personally might be even better on that
    small bike, which must be lighter and more aero than a larger one. (That
    average moving-speed for your century was very impressive, I thought).
    However, I think you're unusual in being a tall person comfortable on such
    a bike. Many cyclists would not be.

    Actually, I do enjoy riding bikes that are too small for me -- it's a good
    laugh throwing them round corners with such ease -- but for the longer
    runs, I like to have my bars up quite high and the saddle setback
    somewhat. I also like the way a relatively short stem feels. All that is
    difficult if the bike is too diddy.

    The other way round is worse, though. Too large and you might not be able
    to straddle the bike and it'll handle like a barn door. The frame I
    mentioned was almost like that, and it's now dawning on me at long, long
    last that my old 25" touring bike is really too big for me (as was my
    previous racer). My road bike is a 60cm job: feels much, much, better
    than the 62cm version.

    ~PB

  6. "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    Actually, I do enjoy riding bikes that are too small for me -- it's a good
    laugh throwing them round corners with such ease -- but for the longer
    runs, I like to have my bars up quite high and the saddle setback
    somewhat. I also like the way a relatively short stem feels. All that is
    difficult if the bike is too diddy.

    That was my first impression, as I wrote on my site. The first time I rode
    it I thought I had made a big mistake as I saw this tiny bike beneath me and
    thought I'd just fall off any minute. Now it's like I'm welded to the road
    and it's fun seeing an object in the road and seeing how late you can leave
    it before you just twitch the bars and go round it. Thanks for the century
    compliment, it was more a case of wanting to get home for a beer sharpish
    rather than hang around in those awful hills ;-)

    --
    Simon M.

  7. zzapper said:

    Hi,
    Would readers recommend buying a bike off the web where return postage costs in case of problems are
    significant?

    Experiences please.

    Not unless it's cheap. Quality control isn't good enough.

    Two conflicting examples:

    Fuji Track bike, brand new from eBay, £250 (£50 less than RRP). Perfect
    in every respect and just as described by the seller (trickytrevbianchi
    if you're interested).

    Thorn Nomad touring bike direct from SJSC, £1200-ish new. Rubbish paint
    job, first BB lasted 70 miles, useless front brake cable routing (the
    hanger had no "drop" so the cable was bent to a crazy radius), rack and
    rear mudguard bent in transit by careless carriers. SJSC sent a new
    rack, I straightened the mudguard stays myself and bought a new BB and
    cable hanger because the cost of postage is prohibitive. When it's
    accumulated enough scratches the frame can be resprayed anyway.

  8. zzapper said:

    Hi,
    Would readers recommend buying a bike off the web where return
    postage costs in case of problems are significant?

    Experiences please.

    zzapper (vim, cygwin, wiki & zsh)

    Buy ONLY if you know EXACTLY what you are getting (i.e. you have test-ridden
    the exact same bike yourself). Never buy without test riding. Bike sizes
    differ with manufacturer and frame styles and a "17 from one manufacturer
    will not be the same size as a 17" from another. Also, the recommended sizes
    based on height can be wrong (accoridng to height I should get a 15" but was
    too small and found 17" perfect).

    It's better to buy from a local place where you can test ride even if it is
    a little more expensive.

    --

    Burning_Ranger

    To email: [email hidden]

  9. Burning_Ranger said:
    zzapper said:

    Hi,
    Would readers recommend buying a bike off the web where return
    postage costs in case of problems are significant?

    Experiences please.

    zzapper (vim, cygwin, wiki & zsh)

    Buy ONLY if you know EXACTLY what you are getting (i.e. you have test-ridden
    the exact same bike yourself).

    Even then be careful what you are buying. I suspect from the way the
    question is phrased zzapper is thinking of maybe buying from the US. I
    have frequently found that two bikes with the same name from the same
    manufacturer are completely different bikes in different countries.
    About the only thing they shared was the manufacturers and model name.
    So make absolutely sure its the bike you think it is.

    Tony

  10. Burning_Ranger said:

    Buy ONLY if you know EXACTLY what you are getting (i.e. you have test-ridden
    the exact same bike yourself).

    I have hardly ever bought a bike after having test-ridden. Not in the
    last 10 years, certainly. That includes the last 3 tandems, and my
    single, well over 10,000UKP in all.

    Quoted message said:

    Never buy without test riding.

    I guess you don't advise buying custom frames, then. Ever.

    James
    --
    If I have seen further than others, it is
    by treading on the toes of giants.
    http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/

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