Buying a touring bike... comments on setup?

Looks like a nice bike. It may be difficult to get a quill stem, as they would have to thread the
steerer tube. Also, 1 1/8" quill stems are very rare (not sure if its 1 1/8 but it probably is).
Just get the steerer tube on the long side and you can move spacers either above or below the stem
for adjustment, or get an adjustable stem. I find an aheadsst easier to adjust.

Barcons may be more reliable for touring, and reduce weight slightly.

Looks nice - how much was the frame?

Kyle

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After a bit of looking, I am deciding to purchase a Marinoni touring bike
(marinoni.qc.caeng index.aspOpen ↗). Other brands I considered seriously were Bruce
Gordon and Bilenky. I am choosing the Marinoni as it is well priced in Canada and I think I am
best off taking my savings and putting them into a nice trip. My proposed configuration is:

o their 55cm Turismo (sloping top tube... effectively 60cm c-c I

believe).

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I actually prefer a sloping top tube for standover height and it brings my bars higher.
Apparently I can order with a horizontal TT for more

money.

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o Campy Veloce triple (not sure of rear cluster range). Upgrades are

Ultegra

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and Centaur. Given they do not use campy hubs, Veloce seems a decent

choice.

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Only preference for Shimano would be going to barcons (do they have 9sp bar cons). o Stem. Has
some stupid aheadset thingy. I am debating asking for a

quill

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stem so I may adjust on the road. Is there any benefit to an aheadset? Quill stems seems to be
rarer by the day!

My one treat will be to get some custom racks from Bicycle Specialties

here in

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Toronto to go with it. I am looking at light loaded touring (< 1 week) and daily commuting (70km
with laptop, clothes, etc) with this rig. I

debated

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going to the Ciclo (good for light touring), but I like the longer

chainstays

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and better tire clearance with the Turismo.

Any comments would be appreciated. Thx.

KBH said:

Looks like a nice bike. It may be difficult to get a quill stem, as they would have to thread the
steerer tube. Also, 1 1/8" quill stems are very rare (not sure if its 1 1/8 but it probably is).
Just get the steerer tube on the long side and you can move spacers either above or below the stem
for adjustment, or get an adjustable stem. I find an aheadsst easier to adjust.

Barcons may be more reliable for touring, and reduce weight slightly.

Looks nice - how much was the frame?

I actually *think* it is a 1" steerer tube... and I can just order the change from the factory. As
for an adjustable stem... the only one I know of is the Ergostem... and I hate to say it, but I
like pretty stems... and it ain't pretty! I will rethink perhaps... not ever having an aheadset
stem I can envision nothing simpler than loosening a single bolt, giving it a tap, and moving the
stem up/down.

As for the bike... it comes in around 1100USD built with veloce.

mark.

I guess I meant adjusting the actual headset is easier, not the stem (no headset wrenches required).
I don't like the lack of two bolt (removeable faceplate) quill stems, nor the fact that they are all
-17 degrees.

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KBH said:

Looks like a nice bike. It may be difficult to get a quill stem, as

they

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would have to thread the steerer tube. Also, 1 1/8" quill stems are

very

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rare (not sure if its 1 1/8 but it probably is). Just get the steerer

tube

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on the long side and you can move spacers either above or below the stem

for

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adjustment, or get an adjustable stem. I find an aheadsst easier to

adjust.

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Barcons may be more reliable for touring, and reduce weight slightly.

Looks nice - how much was the frame?

I actually *think* it is a 1" steerer tube... and I can just order the

change

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from the factory. As for an adjustable stem... the only one I know of is

the

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Ergostem... and I hate to say it, but I like pretty stems... and it ain't pretty! I will rethink
perhaps... not ever having an aheadset stem I can envision nothing simpler than loosening a single
bolt, giving it a tap, and moving the stem up/down.

As for the bike... it comes in around 1100USD built with veloce.

mark.

re: barcons. Yes, you can get them in Shimano 9, 8 Campy 10, and most likely 9. If your intent is to
do unsupported touring, then barcons will provide the greatest simplicity and reliability (and if
you have to cobble on an "incompatible" der, they can go friction!). Despite my affection for Campy,
I would say that to go with Shimano components (at least rear der and barcons) would be your best
bet due to the greater availability of compatible parts. Even tho "campy breaks in, not down", in
this case, I suggest Shimano.

IMO

App

MDL <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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After a bit of looking, I am deciding to purchase a Marinoni touring bike
(marinoni.qc.caeng index.aspOpen ↗). Other brands I considered seriously were Bruce
Gordon and Bilenky. I am choosing the Marinoni as it is well priced in Canada and I think I am
best off taking my savings and putting them into a nice trip. My proposed configuration is:

o their 55cm Turismo (sloping top tube... effectively 60cm c-c I believe). I actually prefer a
sloping top tube for standover height and it brings my bars higher. Apparently I can order with a
horizontal TT for more money. o Campy Veloce triple (not sure of rear cluster range). Upgrades are
Ultegra and Centaur. Given they do not use campy hubs, Veloce seems a decent choice. Only
preference for Shimano would be going to barcons (do they have 9sp bar cons). o Stem. Has some
stupid aheadset thingy. I am debating asking for a quill stem so I may adjust on the road. Is
there any benefit to an aheadset? Quill stems seems to be rarer by the day!

My one treat will be to get some custom racks from Bicycle Specialties here in Toronto to go with
it. I am looking at light loaded touring (< 1 week) and daily commuting (70km with laptop,
clothes, etc) with this rig. I debated going to the Ciclo (good for light touring), but I like the
longer chainstays and better tire clearance with the Turismo.

Any comments would be appreciated. Thx.

get one fitted to your physique

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re: barcons. Yes, you can get them in Shimano 9, 8 Campy 10, and most likely 9. If your intent is
to do unsupported touring, then barcons will provide the greatest simplicity and reliability (and
if you have to cobble on an "incompatible" der, they can go friction!). Despite my affection for
Campy, I would say that to go with Shimano components (at least rear der and barcons) would be
your best bet due to the greater availability of compatible parts. Even tho "campy breaks in, not
down", in this case, I suggest Shimano.

IMO

App

Agree with App - I have both Campy and Shimano. Love Campy, but have Shimano on my touring bike due
to parts availability. My touring bike: 1998 Bianchi Volpe frame with Dura-Ace Bar ends (got a great
deal on 8sp) with XT rear derailer. Build my own wheels with Ultegra hubs. For real wide gear range
(love to climb hills) I put a LX compact front crank 22/32/44. I Would not recommend putting Campy
on a Shimano hub.

Kevin

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I guess I meant adjusting the actual headset is easier, not the stem (no headset wrenches
required). I don't like the lack of two bolt (removeable faceplate) quill stems, nor the fact that
they are all -17 degrees.

Many of the current quills are variable in rise and have a removeable faceplate. Check out Salsa's
SUL road quill - comes in -15, 0 and +15 (?) with removeable faceplate. I have the -15 and it is
very nice.

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KBH said:

Looks like a nice bike. It may be difficult to get a quill stem, as

they

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would have to thread the steerer tube. Also, 1 1/8" quill stems are

very

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rare (not sure if its 1 1/8 but it probably is). Just get the steerer

tube

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on the long side and you can move spacers either above or below the stem

for

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adjustment, or get an adjustable stem. I find an aheadsst easier to

adjust.

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Barcons may be more reliable for touring, and reduce weight slightly.

Looks nice - how much was the frame?

I actually *think* it is a 1" steerer tube... and I can just order the

change

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from the factory. As for an adjustable stem... the only one I know of is

the

Quoted message said:

Ergostem... and I hate to say it, but I like pretty stems... and it ain't pretty! I will rethink
perhaps... not ever having an aheadset stem I can envision nothing simpler than loosening a
single bolt, giving it a tap, and moving the stem up/down.

As for the bike... it comes in around 1100USD built with veloce.

mark.

MDL said:

Only preference for Shimano would be going to barcons (do they have 9sp bar cons).

They certainly do.