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  1. With voting kicking off tomorrow I thought it's about time I devoted a
    bit of time to finding out about the candidates, so off I popped to the
    BV website.

    There's not a lot to go on. One of the candidates I've got a pretty
    good feel for and ironically he's the only one who's given voters a
    means of contacting him (no prizes for guessing who!) The rest I don't
    know from Adam.

    Does anyone know if there is more information posted about or by the
    seven candidates other than what appears at this URL?

    http://www.bv.com.au/inform.php?a=9&b=162&c=1695
    --
    Cheers | ~~ __@
    Euan | ~~ _-\<,
    Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)

  2. Euan said:

    With voting kicking off tomorrow I thought it's about time I devoted a
    bit of time to finding out about the candidates, so off I popped to the
    BV website.

    There's not a lot to go on. One of the candidates I've got a pretty
    good feel for and ironically he's the only one who's given voters a
    means of contacting him (no prizes for guessing who!) The rest I don't
    know from Adam.

    Does anyone know if there is more information posted about or by the
    seven candidates other than what appears at this URL?

    http://www.bv.com.au/inform.php?a=9&b=162&c=1695

    It's funny seeing Ray Beecher on the list. He used to work for
    BV as an event mangler (GMBR, I think), and now works at the same
    place as my squeeze. AFAIK, he doesn't ride a bike much.

  3. "Bleve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    It's funny seeing Ray Beecher on the list. He used to work for
    BV as an event mangler (GMBR, I think), and now works at the same
    place as my squeeze.

    what?

    I must be getting old - squeeze used to mean something else - what is it
    now?

  4. "Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Bleve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    It's funny seeing Ray Beecher on the list. He used to work for
    BV as an event mangler (GMBR, I think), and now works at the same
    place as my squeeze.

    what?

    I must be getting old - squeeze used to mean something else - what is it
    now?

    woops - not enough sleep. makes perfect sense, just read it wrong.

    vote out the old guard, I say. Pity I let my membership lapse
    (deliberately).

  5. On 2005-10-02, Bob (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:

    vote out the old guard, I say. Pity I let my membership lapse
    (deliberately).

    I'm wondering if all the suckers who would "vote 4 Jason BV" are no
    longer members as of the latest round 🙂

    🙁

    --
    TimC
    Using top down development, you never have any working code. Using bottom
    up development, you never solve the problem. -- John Kelly in debian-user

  6. TimC said:

    On 2005-10-02, Bob (aka Bruce)
    was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

    Quoted message said:

    vote out the old guard, I say. Pity I let my membership lapse
    (deliberately).

    I'm wondering if all the suckers who would "vote 4 Jason BV" are no
    longer members as of the latest round 🙂

    🙁


    YEah I just got my renewal. Have to think about that 🙂

  7. TimC said:

    I'm wondering if all the suckers who would "vote 4 Jason BV" are no
    longer members as of the latest round 🙂

    Dear Readers,

    Have a peruse at this:
    http://www.bv.com.au/file/explanatory%20memorandum.20050826.pdf

    Especially the third point under 'Members'.

    More here: http://www.bv.com.au/inform.php?a=9&b=162&c=1670

  8. Euan said:

    One of the candidates I've got a pretty
    good feel for and ironically he's the only one who's given voters a
    means of contacting him (no prizes for guessing who!)

    Who? 😄

    Warning. blatant political (including scary foto) plug follows:

    home.iprimus.com.auvote4jdh4bv.gif

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    flyingdutch said:

    Warning. blatant political (including scary foto) plug follows:

    http://home.iprimus.com.au/adenhollander/vote4jdh4bv.gif

    Can you explain how specifying only one candidate maximises my vote? I
    mean, it sure makes it simpler, but is there some odd weighting system
    used?

    --
    Shane Stanley

  10. "Shane Stanley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    flyingdutch said:

    Warning. blatant political (including scary foto) plug follows:

    http://home.iprimus.com.au/adenhollander/vote4jdh4bv.gif

    Can you explain how specifying only one candidate maximises my vote? I
    mean, it sure makes it simpler, but is there some odd weighting system
    used?

    --
    Shane Stanley

    I assume that either you get 1 vote, so if you vote for 2 or 3 people,
    effectively only 1/2 or 1/3 of your vote counts per candidate? .. Or if you
    you really want someone to win and you get to vote for up to 3 candidates,
    voting for 3 of them will not ensure your preferred candidate to get maximum
    distance ahead of the rest.. Something like that ..

    Ash

  11. A5hi5M said:

    "Shane Stanley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    flyingdutch said:

    Warning. blatant political (including scary foto) plug follows:

    http://home.iprimus.com.au/adenhollander/vote4jdh4bv.gif

    Can you explain how specifying only one candidate maximises my vote? I
    mean, it sure makes it simpler, but is there some odd weighting system
    used?

    --
    Shane Stanley

    I assume that either you get 1 vote, so if you vote for 2 or 3 people,
    effectively only 1/2 or 1/3 of your vote counts per candidate? .. Or if you
    you really want someone to win and you get to vote for up to 3 candidates,
    voting for 3 of them will not ensure your preferred candidate to get maximum
    distance ahead of the rest.. Something like that ..

    Seems reasonable.

    I'd love to see a way to make your vote count *against* someone -
    say you can vote for 1 person, and vote against another!

    In federal politice, it'd be great to be able to vote against the loony
    fringe religious nutcases and in the BV election, against people you
    know
    don't actually ride bikes 🙂

    Quoted message said:


    Ash

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    A5hi5M said:

    I assume that either you get 1 vote, so if you vote for 2 or 3 people,
    effectively only 1/2 or 1/3 of your vote counts per candidate?

    I've never heard of such a thing -- which is not to say it doesn't
    exist, but I'd expect it to be spelt out somewhere.

    Quoted message said:

    Or if you
    you really want someone to win and you get to vote for up to 3 candidates,
    voting for 3 of them will not ensure your preferred candidate to get maximum
    distance ahead of the rest.. Something like that ..

    Now that makes sense, thanks.

    --
    Shane Stanley

  13. A5hi5M said:


    I assume that either you get 1 vote, so if you vote for 2 or 3 people,
    effectively only 1/2 or 1/3 of your vote counts per candidate? .. Or if you
    you really want someone to win and you get to vote for up to 3 candidates,
    voting for 3 of them will not ensure your preferred candidate to get maximum
    distance ahead of the rest.. Something like that ..

    Ash

    Basically, yes

    "you get to vote for up to 3 candidates" but you dont HAVE to

    As explained to me by Harry Barber himself, if you allocate 3 votes they are of equal strength, thus you are giving 3 candidates a vote.
    The tally will be done purely by 'most-votes-received'
    so by voting for only one (or 2) you are effectively NOT voting for others who you dont want to get up*

    * this candidate wants your vote but doesnt condone any voter's anti-candidate thoughts 🙄

    any one need a baby kissed ?

  14. Shane Stanley said:

    Can you explain how specifying only one candidate maximises my vote? I
    mean, it sure makes it simpler, but is there some odd weighting system
    used?

    Voting for one and only one candidate means that that candidate advances
    relative to ALL candidates. Otherwise, one of the other peeps you vote
    for could easily pip him/her/it at the post.

    I'm assuming that the x number of candidates with the highest vote get
    elected.

  15. flyingdutch said:
    Euan said:


    One of the candidates I've got a pretty
    good feel for and ironically he's the only one who's given voters a
    means of contacting him (no prizes for guessing who!)

    Who? 😄

    Warning. blatant political (including scary foto)

    yes, please stick to wearing your helmet in future photo shoots 😉

    DaveB

  16. flyingdutch said:

    Basically, yes

    "you get to vote for up to 3 candidates" but you dont HAVE to

    As explained to me by Harry Barber himself, if you allocate 3 votes they are of equal strength, thus you are giving 3 candidates a vote.
    The tally will be done purely by 'most-votes-received'
    so by voting for only one (or 2) you are effectively NOT voting for others who you dont want to get up*

    * this candidate wants your vote but doesnt condone any voter's anti-candidate thoughts 🙄

    any one need a baby kissed ?


    Well that's certainly simplified things. One vote it is then.

  17. a it OT but someone at yesterday's race was discussing the ballot with me and mentioned the recent (last years' ?) CSV board vote. Apparently it turned into a [censored]-fight with muck-raking abounding, emails flying all over the place!?!?

    anyone know more about that? The (admittedly very) little I have had to do with CSV, somehow this doesnt surprise me 🙄
    Altho perhaps that's judging the org by the candidates...

  18. flyingdutch said:
    Euan said:


    One of the candidates I've got a pretty
    good feel for and ironically he's the only one who's given voters a
    means of contacting him (no prizes for guessing who!)

    Who? 😄

    Warning. blatant political (including scary foto) plug follows:

    http://home.iprimus.com.au/adenhollander/vote4jdh4bv.gif


    Kathy and I met several chalk adds for you on friday btw 🙂

    Dave

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    flyingdutch said:

    "you get to vote for up to 3 candidates" but you dont HAVE to

    As explained to me by Harry Barber himself, if you allocate 3 votes
    they are of equal strength, thus you are giving 3 candidates a vote.
    The tally will be done purely by 'most-votes-received'
    so by voting for only one (or 2) you are effectively NOT voting for
    others who you dont want to get up*

    Makes sense. But by voting for only one, one is missing the chance to
    make it harder for those one doesn't want to get up, to get up.

    Round and round in circles...

    --
    Shane Stanley

  20. [quote="cfsmtb"]Dear Readers,

    Have a peruse at this:
    http://www.bv.com.au/file/explanatory%20memorandum.20050826.pdf

    Especially the third point under 'Members'.
    Hey cfsmtb,thanks for the info
    Do you happen to know how these changes affect "family" members?
    l can't find definition of "family" re their insurance policy on web,l have emailed BVI a query

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