Caffeine=Rubbish

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Originally posted by Unregistered
It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't
enhance performance....

Try telling that to Alex Watson, in retrospect.

This week. What will the findings be next week? Depends on
who is paying for an opinion I guess.

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It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't
enhance performance....

"We found the caffeine had no beneficial effect on resting
heart rate,

blood

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pressure, reaction time, concentration, plasma
triglycerides, blood

glucose

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or exercise performance," Dr Melissa Crowe, of
Queensland's James Cook University said..

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Unregistered

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It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't
enhance performance....

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Originally posted by Unregistered

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It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't
enhance performance....

Uh.. not exactly.. try reading the whole article:

"In endurance sports, caffeine has been shown to help in
low amounts"

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"Dr Crowe found caffeine could cause tremors, nausea,
agitation, hallucinations and an increase in the time
taken to reach peak power."

Hallucinations?!?! What sort of caffeine were they feeding
them?! Sounds like a decaf manufacturer has paid for a
study 🙂

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What about the other studies that have shown caffeine to
have a beneficial effect or no effect? This study sounds
excessively negative towards caffeine.

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If it is so bad, why do sprinters use it to get their
heart rates up before an effort and endurance racers use
it to free fat stores for use in place of valuable
glycogen stores?

My advice - read more than this article before dismissing
caffeine.

hippy

Gianni Bugno likes his coffee strong and it never
slowed him down.

Marty "Short white" Wallace

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Originally posted by Unregistered
It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't
enhance performance....

"We found the caffeine had no beneficial effect on resting
heart rate, blood pressure, reaction time, concentration,
plasma triglycerides, blood glucose or exercise
performance," Dr Melissa Crowe, of Queensland's James Cook
University said..

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bad coffee has a detrimental effect on my performance:-)

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If it is so bad, why do sprinters use it to get their heart rates up
before an effort and endurance racers use it to free fat stores
for use in place of valuable glycogen stores?
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The more modern research suggests that this isn't why endurance athletes use caffeine. The advantages are likely to be to do with lowering the level of perceived exertion and possibly changes in muscular chemistry. The main problem is securing a chemically pure form of caffeine fit for human consumption, as there is some evidence other compounds in coffee negate the effect (although my experience suggests it certainly doesn't completely negate the effects). If you want to find out more about caffeine or any other possible ergogenic aid, I recommend the AIS website and the supplement fact sheets available in the sports nutrition section.

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Originally posted by ProfTournesol
bad coffee has a detrimental effect on my performance:-)

Vote 1 - ProfTournesol !!!

<reaches for semi-decent flat-white, inhales aroma and feels semi-ready to take on another day of workin for 'the man'>

flyingdutch said:

ProfTournesol said:

bad coffee has a detrimental effect on my performance:-
)

Vote 1 - ProfTournesol !!!

<reaches for semi-decent flat-white, inhales aroma and
feels semi-ready to take on another day of workin for
'the man'>

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I submitted a research progress report the other day, it
asked for problems that had delayed me and if solutions had
been found. I wrote: Problem - I wasn't drinking enough
coffee to be really productive. Solution - Our research
group has purchased an espresso machine and grinder. I am
back up to several cups per day.

I think my supervisor missed it and passed it up through
the chain as
is. Uh oh.

Tam

Oh [censored], said nothing about bikes. Um, bikes are good.

Quoted post said:

Originally posted by Unregistered
It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't
enhance performance....

"l

Soooooooooooooo.. that means coffee isn't a racing/training supplement ;-P

With a thumbs up to Prof T and Flying Dutch.. bring it on 😄

Unregistered said:

It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't
enhance performance....

"We found the caffeine had no beneficial effect on resting
heart rate, blood pressure, reaction time, concentration,
plasma triglycerides, blood glucose or exercise
performance," Dr Melissa Crowe, of Queensland's James Cook
University said..

Geeze, everyone knows that!

It's the cake and biscuits you have with the coffee on the
break in the middle of your ride that effects performance.

-kt

have a look at the PDF attachment......

this study shows that caffeine is beneficial

I drink flat coke as a pick-me-up on my long rides 4h+ for a
long lasting energy boost on the way back. If you ever see a
guy with a dark liquid in his 2nd bottle - that's me.

Unregistered said:

It's official. Drinking coffee before trainning doesn't
enhance performance....

"We found the caffeine had no beneficial effect on resting
heart rate, blood pressure, reaction time, concentration,
plasma triglycerides, blood glucose or exercise
performance," Dr Melissa Crowe, of Queensland's James Cook
University said..

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re caffine tests (old one)
lve heard that drugs like LSD +cocaine and caffine were administered to spiders to see their effects on web making.And interestingly enough the coke and LSD spiders carried on with their perfect web making ,but the caffine spider flipped out and made a erratic web!! Spiders can't hack coffee, (it was probably instant coffee full of chemicals!)

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re caffine tests (old one) lve heard that drugs like LSD
+cocaine and caffine were administered to spiders to see
their effects on web making.And interestingly enough the
coke and LSD spiders carried on with their perfect web
making ,but the caffine spider flipped out and made a
erratic web!! Spiders can't hack coffee, (it was probably
instant coffee full of chemicals!)

Hmmm... Are you implying that we might be better off
dropping tabs of Acid rather than sipping coffee before that
Sunday morning ride? A short trip around the park?

Marty

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Originally posted by Marty Wallace

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"Meeba" <[email hidden]> wrote
re caffine tests (old one) lve heard that drugs like LSD
+cocaine and caffine were administered to spiders to see
their effects on web making.And interestingly enough the
coke and LSD spiders carried on with their perfect web
making ,but the caffine spider flipped out and made a
erratic web!! Spiders can't hack coffee, (it was probably
instant coffee full of chemicals!)

Hmmm... Are you implying that we might be better off
dropping tabs of Acid rather than sipping coffee before that
Sunday morning ride? A short trip around the park?

I'm guessing that I'm not going to be able to buy these tabs of
'Long Slow Distance' at, say, Cecil Walker or Freedom Machine? ;-)

Would make the commute a little more interesting I'm sure... :-)

hippy

Meeba said:

re caffine tests (old one) lve heard that drugs like LSD
+cocaine and caffine were administered to spiders to see
their effects on web making.And interestingly enough the
coke and LSD spiders carried on with their perfect web
making ,but the caffine spider flipped out and made a
erratic web!! Spiders can't hack coffee, (it was probably
instant coffee full of chemicals!)

Photos of webs here: <cannabis.netweblife.htmlOpen ↗