Campagnolo 10 speed chain tool

Artoi said:

Is it absolutely necessary to use Campagnolo's proprietary UT-CN200
chain tool to join and separate Campy 10 speed chains? Are there any
third party alternatives that can also do the job?

Thanks for any advise here.
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I tried it once with a Tacx chaintool. I failed. Please, please forget
joining 10 speed chains with a chaintool. Get the Wipperman link and you
are done. Available in 6.2 mm (C10 chains) and 6.0 mm (Ultra Narrow chains).
I only use a chaintool for shorten the chain.

Lou
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Lou Holtman said:

I tried it once with a Tacx chaintool. I failed. Please, please forget
joining 10 speed chains with a chaintool. Get the Wipperman link and you
are done. Available in 6.2 mm (C10 chains) and 6.0 mm (Ultra Narrow chains).
I only use a chaintool for shorten the chain.

Have you used it with Campag 10 speed chain and gears? As a minimum, I
note that there's a 0.1mm differential in the spec. Don't know if that
makes a difference to the gears.
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Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Lou Holtman said:

I tried it once with a Tacx chaintool. I failed. Please, please forget
joining 10 speed chains with a chaintool. Get the Wipperman link and you
are done. Available in 6.2 mm (C10 chains) and 6.0 mm (Ultra Narrow chains).
I only use a chaintool for shorten the chain.

Have you used it with Campag 10 speed chain and gears? As a minimum, I
note that there's a 0.1mm differential in the spec. Don't know if that
makes a difference to the gears.
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For campag 10 speed I've been using a Nemesis chain with tool-less
link, cheap from BikePro.

Donga

Lou Holtman said:

I tried it once with a Tacx chaintool. I failed. Please, please forget
joining 10 speed chains with a chaintool. Get the Wipperman link and you
are done. Available in 6.2 mm (C10 chains) and 6.0 mm (Ultra Narrow chains).
I only use a chaintool for shorten the chain.

Apparently you have to get the depth of 10-speed chain pins just right, or
the risk of breakage there is fairly high.

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Donga said:

Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Lou Holtman said:

I tried it once with a Tacx chaintool. I failed. Please, please forget
joining 10 speed chains with a chaintool. Get the Wipperman link and you
are done. Available in 6.2 mm (C10 chains) and 6.0 mm (Ultra Narrow
chains).
I only use a chaintool for shorten the chain.

Have you used it with Campag 10 speed chain and gears? As a minimum, I
note that there's a 0.1mm differential in the spec. Don't know if that
makes a difference to the gears.
--

For campag 10 speed I've been using a Nemesis chain with tool-less
link, cheap from BikePro.

Thanks for the suggestion. But I am specifically looking for solutions
wrt Campag 10 speed chains.
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Artoi said:

Is it absolutely necessary to use Campagnolo's proprietary UT-CN200
chain tool to join and separate Campy 10 speed chains? Are there any
third party alternatives that can also do the job?

Thanks for any advise here.
--

Any good quality, shop level tool that pushes the pin in straight will
work BUT, the Campag tool, with the metal clip that holds the links
stable, is the best.

Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Lou Holtman said:

I tried it once with a Tacx chaintool. I failed. Please, please forget
joining 10 speed chains with a chaintool. Get the Wipperman link and you
are done. Available in 6.2 mm (C10 chains) and 6.0 mm (Ultra Narrow chains).
I only use a chaintool for shorten the chain.

Have you used it with Campag 10 speed chain and gears? As a minimum, I
note that there's a 0.1mm differential in the spec. Don't know if that
makes a difference to the gears.

We sell the 6.2 for Wipperman/Mavic and old Campag 10s chains and the
6.05mm one for shimano 10s chains and the new, narrower, Campag 10s
chain-works great.

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Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Lou Holtman said:

I tried it once with a Tacx chaintool. I failed. Please, please forget
joining 10 speed chains with a chaintool. Get the Wipperman link and you
are done. Available in 6.2 mm (C10 chains) and 6.0 mm (Ultra Narrow chains).
I only use a chaintool for shorten the chain.

Have you used it with Campag 10 speed chain and gears?

Yes for 4 years now (C10 and the 6.2 mm Connex/Wipperman link) and for 6
months (6.0 mm and a Campy Ulta Narrow chain).
No problems. Everyone who is messing with special pins(Shimano), special
tools (Campy) and special links (Campy) is nuts ;-)

Quoted message said:

As a minimum, I
note that there's a 0.1mm differential in the spec. Don't know if that
makes a difference to the gears.

I don't know what you mean.

Lou
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Artoi said:

Is it absolutely necessary to use Campagnolo's proprietary UT-CN200
chain tool to join and separate Campy 10 speed chains? Are there any
third party alternatives that can also do the job?

Thanks for any advise here.
--

I would say that if it is what you need to feel completely sure that
your Campy chain is linked properly then it is "absolutely necessary."
OTOH, if you have eyes and hands of a surgeon skilled in micro-surgery
then you can probably make do with an ordinary chain tool.

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Quoted message said:

Artoi said:

Is it absolutely necessary to use Campagnolo's proprietary UT-CN200
chain tool to join and separate Campy 10 speed chains? Are there any
third party alternatives that can also do the job?

Thanks for any advise here.
--

I would say that if it is what you need to feel completely sure that
your Campy chain is linked properly then it is "absolutely necessary."
OTOH, if you have eyes and hands of a surgeon skilled in micro-surgery
then you can probably make do with an ordinary chain tool.

I would forget the stupid chain tool and get yourself a removable link.
Wipperman, IRD, and I think Sram all have links that will work without
needing to become skilled in micro-surgery!

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Kenny said:

Artoi said:

Is it absolutely necessary to use Campagnolo's proprietary UT-CN200
chain tool to join and separate Campy 10 speed chains? Are there any
third party alternatives that can also do the job?

Thanks for any advise here.
--

I would say that if it is what you need to feel completely sure that
your Campy chain is linked properly then it is "absolutely necessary."
OTOH, if you have eyes and hands of a surgeon skilled in micro-surgery
then you can probably make do with an ordinary chain tool.

I think I might just qualify! And save a bundle of cash... 😉
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bfd said:

"Kenny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Artoi said:

Is it absolutely necessary to use Campagnolo's proprietary UT-CN200
chain tool to join and separate Campy 10 speed chains? Are there any
third party alternatives that can also do the job?

Thanks for any advise here.
--

I would say that if it is what you need to feel completely sure that
your Campy chain is linked properly then it is "absolutely necessary."
OTOH, if you have eyes and hands of a surgeon skilled in micro-surgery
then you can probably make do with an ordinary chain tool.

I would forget the stupid chain tool and get yourself a removable link.
Wipperman, IRD, and I think Sram all have links that will work without
needing to become skilled in micro-surgery!

I'll have to search for that Wipperman solution. Not sure if they are
readily available in Australia.
--

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Lou Holtman said:

Artoi wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As a minimum, I
note that there's a 0.1mm differential in the spec. Don't know if that
makes a difference to the gears.

I don't know what you mean.

Campy's spec for the 10 speed ultra-narrow chain is 5.9mm while the
Wippermann link is 6.0mm. Is this an issue?
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Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Lou Holtman said:

I tried it once with a Tacx chaintool. I failed. Please, please forget
joining 10 speed chains with a chaintool. Get the Wipperman link and you
are done. Available in 6.2 mm (C10 chains) and 6.0 mm (Ultra Narrow
chains).
I only use a chaintool for shorten the chain.

Have you used it with Campag 10 speed chain and gears? As a minimum, I
note that there's a 0.1mm differential in the spec. Don't know if that
makes a difference to the gears.

We sell the 6.2 for Wipperman/Mavic and old Campag 10s chains and the
6.05mm one for shimano 10s chains and the new, narrower, Campag 10s
chain-works great.

Quoted message said:

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Are the 6.0mm links for Campag readily available? or are people using
the 6.2mm version with the 5.9mm Campag 10 speed chains?
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Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Artoi said:

Is it absolutely necessary to use Campagnolo's proprietary UT-CN200
chain tool to join and separate Campy 10 speed chains? Are there any
third party alternatives that can also do the job?

Thanks for any advise here.
--

Any good quality, shop level tool that pushes the pin in straight will
work BUT, the Campag tool, with the metal clip that holds the links
stable, is the best.

Thanks. That helps with my purchasing decision.

One final question. Does the Campag tool have any special guides or
limits when it comes to how far to push in the new pin? Or does it also
depend on user's direct examination?
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Artoi said:

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bfd said:

"Kenny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Artoi wrote:
> Is it absolutely necessary to use Campagnolo's proprietary UT-CN200
> chain tool to join and separate Campy 10 speed chains? Are there any
> third party alternatives that can also do the job?
>
> Thanks for any advise here.
> --
I would say that if it is what you need to feel completely sure that
your Campy chain is linked properly then it is "absolutely necessary."
OTOH, if you have eyes and hands of a surgeon skilled in micro-surgery
then you can probably make do with an ordinary chain tool.

I would forget the stupid chain tool and get yourself a removable link.
Wipperman, IRD, and I think Sram all have links that will work without
needing to become skilled in micro-surgery!

I'll have to search for that Wipperman solution. Not sure if they are
readily available in Australia.
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Dean Woods has them for $19 ea - not a bad bit of value-adding to a few
grams of steel!

Lickton's is expecting arrival of a Superlink that is sized correcty for
the 5.9 Campy but last I checked, they hadn't arrived yet. They're
expecting them in early Nov.

lickbike.comproductpage.aspxOpen ↗

"Artoi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Is it absolutely necessary to use Campagnolo's proprietary UT-CN200
chain tool to join and separate Campy 10 speed chains? Are there any
third party alternatives that can also do the job?

Thanks for any advise here.
--

bfd said:

"Kenny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Artoi said:

Is it absolutely necessary to use Campagnolo's proprietary UT-CN200
chain tool to join and separate Campy 10 speed chains? Are there any
third party alternatives that can also do the job?

Thanks for any advise here.
--

I would say that if it is what you need to feel completely sure that
your Campy chain is linked properly then it is "absolutely necessary."
OTOH, if you have eyes and hands of a surgeon skilled in micro-surgery
then you can probably make do with an ordinary chain tool.

I would forget the stupid chain tool and get yourself a removable link.
Wipperman, IRD, and I think Sram all have links that will work without
needing to become skilled in micro-surgery!

not the Sram 10s chain. ALTHO 5.9MM, It has a one use link, not
reuseable.

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Donga said:

Artoi said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

bfd said:

"Kenny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> Artoi wrote:
>> Is it absolutely necessary to use Campagnolo's proprietary UT-CN200
>> chain tool to join and separate Campy 10 speed chains? Are there any
>> third party alternatives that can also do the job?
>>
>> Thanks for any advise here.
>> --
> I would say that if it is what you need to feel completely sure that
> your Campy chain is linked properly then it is "absolutely necessary."
> OTOH, if you have eyes and hands of a surgeon skilled in micro-surgery
> then you can probably make do with an ordinary chain tool.
>
I would forget the stupid chain tool and get yourself a removable link.
Wipperman, IRD, and I think Sram all have links that will work without
needing to become skilled in micro-surgery!

I'll have to search for that Wipperman solution. Not sure if they are
readily available in Australia.
--

Dean Woods has them for $19 ea - not a bad bit of value-adding to a few
grams of steel!

Gosh, $19... 1/2 the price of a quality chain. And then supposedly they
last around 2000-3000km. Ouch!
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