Campagnolo Mechanic Melbourne
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ADA23 said:
no personal experience with Centaur altho the popular consensus is it is noticeably less smooth than Chorus. Possibly due to the differing bushings/innards used?
Depends where in Melb you are.
CecilWalker (altho they can run hot-cold mechanically imho)
Spoken (never gone wrong but ex'y)
CycleWorks Box Hill
Mascot Cycles Richmond.
All known campy supporters.
Most LBS decent spanner-monkeys 'should' be able to do it,
altho they may scratch their heads wondering where the cables went
PS dunno if the ol' addage of 'Campy wears in, Shimano wears out' still applies
Centaur/Daytona is a reliable and smooth group set...check :flyingdutch said:no personal experience with Centaur altho the popular consensus is it is noticeably less smooth than Chorus. Possibly due to the differing bushings/innards used?
Depends where in Melb you are.
CecilWalker (altho they can run hot-cold mechanically imho)
Spoken (never gone wrong but ex'y)
CycleWorks Box Hill
Mascot Cycles Richmond.
All known campy supporters.
Most LBS decent spanner-monkeys 'should' be able to do it,
altho they may scratch their heads wondering where the cables went
PS dunno if the ol' addage of 'Campy wears in, Shimano wears out' still applies
- that you are/have been running a correct chain (9spd/10spd),
- that you don't have a broken sprocket,
- that the rear sprockets are Centaur/Campy originals and not Mavic, Marchisio or even a Shimano sprocket, as this may cause a clunk or two on the back) and
- that the chain is not worn (5000k means two chains for me to have crisp, fast smooth changes)...
Generally the cranks, sprockets and derailleurs will last for yonks providing you keep adjustments set and clean and lube properly...and replace chain at correct wear intervals, yours is probably stretched beyond its useby date/klms....
Now in answer to finding a good Me!b Campy wrench...Graeme at Hillmans and Brigid at Kennedy's know their way around the big C. with skill and reliability.
T
Travis
Guest
kyra wrote:
> My Chorus is getting better each month... it was unforgiven changing up
> climbs but seems to have settled down a fair bit. Still think Ultegra
> is smoother all-rounder though.
Are we talking about old 9sp Ultegra or new 10sp Ultegra. Shimano
reckon their new one is a huge leap over the old. I'm riding the old,
wondering if when it wears out it would be worth replacing the groupset
with a new 10sp Ultegra or going Campy Chorus.
What needs to be done to a bike (Trek 2300, currently with Ultegra 9sp)
to convert it to Campy?
(I won't ask "is it worth it" because I suspect its one of thos
personal preference Vi vs Emacs type things that usually results in a
flamewar...)
Travis
> My Chorus is getting better each month... it was unforgiven changing up
> climbs but seems to have settled down a fair bit. Still think Ultegra
> is smoother all-rounder though.
Are we talking about old 9sp Ultegra or new 10sp Ultegra. Shimano
reckon their new one is a huge leap over the old. I'm riding the old,
wondering if when it wears out it would be worth replacing the groupset
with a new 10sp Ultegra or going Campy Chorus.
What needs to be done to a bike (Trek 2300, currently with Ultegra 9sp)
to convert it to Campy?
(I won't ask "is it worth it" because I suspect its one of thos
personal preference Vi vs Emacs type things that usually results in a
flamewar...)
Travis
P
petulance
Guest
Travis wrote:
> kyra wrote:
>
>>My Chorus is getting better each month... it was unforgiven changing up
>>climbs but seems to have settled down a fair bit. Still think Ultegra
>>is smoother all-rounder though.
>
>
> Are we talking about old 9sp Ultegra or new 10sp Ultegra. Shimano
> reckon their new one is a huge leap over the old. I'm riding the old,
> wondering if when it wears out it would be worth replacing the groupset
> with a new 10sp Ultegra or going Campy Chorus.
>
> What needs to be done to a bike (Trek 2300, currently with Ultegra 9sp)
> to convert it to Campy?
I'll take a stab here ...
- new chain and new cassette
- new freehub
- the usual groupset changes (shifters and derailleurs)
- bottom bracket?
- crank and chain rings?
>
> (I won't ask "is it worth it" because I suspect its one of thos
> personal preference Vi vs Emacs type things that usually results in a
> flamewar...)
>
> Travis
Now, now ... we are all mature adults here. Vi and emacs users are both
tolerated. pico users, on the other hand ...
> kyra wrote:
>
>>My Chorus is getting better each month... it was unforgiven changing up
>>climbs but seems to have settled down a fair bit. Still think Ultegra
>>is smoother all-rounder though.
>
>
> Are we talking about old 9sp Ultegra or new 10sp Ultegra. Shimano
> reckon their new one is a huge leap over the old. I'm riding the old,
> wondering if when it wears out it would be worth replacing the groupset
> with a new 10sp Ultegra or going Campy Chorus.
>
> What needs to be done to a bike (Trek 2300, currently with Ultegra 9sp)
> to convert it to Campy?
I'll take a stab here ...
- new chain and new cassette
- new freehub
- the usual groupset changes (shifters and derailleurs)
- bottom bracket?
- crank and chain rings?
>
> (I won't ask "is it worth it" because I suspect its one of thos
> personal preference Vi vs Emacs type things that usually results in a
> flamewar...)
>
> Travis
Now, now ... we are all mature adults here. Vi and emacs users are both
tolerated. pico users, on the other hand ...
B
Bleve
Guest
petulance wrote:
> Travis wrote:
> > kyra wrote:
> >
> >>My Chorus is getting better each month... it was unforgiven changing up
> >>climbs but seems to have settled down a fair bit. Still think Ultegra
> >>is smoother all-rounder though.
> >
> >
> > Are we talking about old 9sp Ultegra or new 10sp Ultegra. Shimano
> > reckon their new one is a huge leap over the old. I'm riding the old,
> > wondering if when it wears out it would be worth replacing the groupset
> > with a new 10sp Ultegra or going Campy Chorus.
> >
> > What needs to be done to a bike (Trek 2300, currently with Ultegra 9sp)
> > to convert it to Campy?
>
> I'll take a stab here ...
>
> - new chain and new cassette
> - new freehub
And maybe new hub, as not all hubs can take a different freehub.
> - the usual groupset changes (shifters and derailleurs)
> - bottom bracket?
Yes. Shimano Optilink won't work with a campag crankset.
> - crank and chain rings?
Yep.
And new cables - the housings are different.
ie: the full cost of the groupset.
> > (I won't ask "is it worth it" because I suspect its one of thos
> > personal preference Vi vs Emacs type things that usually results in a
> > flamewar...)
> >
> > Travis
>
> Now, now ... we are all mature adults here. Vi and emacs users are both
> tolerated. pico users, on the other hand ...
I knew a "sysadmin" who used pico to edit /etc/passwd (I **** you not)
Oddly enough, the server wouldn't work after that ... linewrap .. "ace"
I ended up writing an article in AUUG's rag about it way back then ...
scary...
> Travis wrote:
> > kyra wrote:
> >
> >>My Chorus is getting better each month... it was unforgiven changing up
> >>climbs but seems to have settled down a fair bit. Still think Ultegra
> >>is smoother all-rounder though.
> >
> >
> > Are we talking about old 9sp Ultegra or new 10sp Ultegra. Shimano
> > reckon their new one is a huge leap over the old. I'm riding the old,
> > wondering if when it wears out it would be worth replacing the groupset
> > with a new 10sp Ultegra or going Campy Chorus.
> >
> > What needs to be done to a bike (Trek 2300, currently with Ultegra 9sp)
> > to convert it to Campy?
>
> I'll take a stab here ...
>
> - new chain and new cassette
> - new freehub
And maybe new hub, as not all hubs can take a different freehub.
> - the usual groupset changes (shifters and derailleurs)
> - bottom bracket?
Yes. Shimano Optilink won't work with a campag crankset.
> - crank and chain rings?
Yep.
And new cables - the housings are different.
ie: the full cost of the groupset.
> > (I won't ask "is it worth it" because I suspect its one of thos
> > personal preference Vi vs Emacs type things that usually results in a
> > flamewar...)
> >
> > Travis
>
> Now, now ... we are all mature adults here. Vi and emacs users are both
> tolerated. pico users, on the other hand ...
I knew a "sysadmin" who used pico to edit /etc/passwd (I **** you not)
Oddly enough, the server wouldn't work after that ... linewrap .. "ace"
I ended up writing an article in AUUG's rag about it way back then ...
scary...
D
Donga
Guest
Travis wrote:
> Are we talking about old 9sp Ultegra or new 10sp Ultegra. Shimano
> reckon their new one is a huge leap over the old. I'm riding the old,
> wondering if when it wears out it would be worth replacing the groupset
> with a new 10sp Ultegra or going Campy Chorus.
>
> What needs to be done to a bike (Trek 2300, currently with Ultegra 9sp)
> to convert it to Campy?
I made this swap in 2004, after waiting an eon for Shimano to produce
10sp and finally getting jack of it. Although you can keep some bits,
it is a lot of screwing around. I finally sold my DA wheels, built new
Campag ones and made a full swap. Now I don't have to think about it
any more. It took a while to get used to the shape and action of the
ergo levers, but otherwise am happy. I put the Ultegra 9sp on another
bike that I ride occasionally, and it's very sloppy compared to the
Chorus.
Donga
> Are we talking about old 9sp Ultegra or new 10sp Ultegra. Shimano
> reckon their new one is a huge leap over the old. I'm riding the old,
> wondering if when it wears out it would be worth replacing the groupset
> with a new 10sp Ultegra or going Campy Chorus.
>
> What needs to be done to a bike (Trek 2300, currently with Ultegra 9sp)
> to convert it to Campy?
I made this swap in 2004, after waiting an eon for Shimano to produce
10sp and finally getting jack of it. Although you can keep some bits,
it is a lot of screwing around. I finally sold my DA wheels, built new
Campag ones and made a full swap. Now I don't have to think about it
any more. It took a while to get used to the shape and action of the
ergo levers, but otherwise am happy. I put the Ultegra 9sp on another
bike that I ride occasionally, and it's very sloppy compared to the
Chorus.
Donga
D
Donga
Guest
Travis wrote:
> Are we talking about old 9sp Ultegra or new 10sp Ultegra. Shimano
> reckon their new one is a huge leap over the old. I'm riding the old,
> wondering if when it wears out it would be worth replacing the groupset
> with a new 10sp Ultegra or going Campy Chorus.
> What needs to be done to a bike (Trek 2300, currently with Ultegra 9sp)
> to convert it to Campy?
I made this swap in 2004, after waiting an eon for Shimano to produce
10sp and finally getting jack of it. Although you can keep some bits,
it is a lot of screwing around. I finally sold my DA wheels, built new
Campag ones and made a full swap. Now I don't have to think about it
any more. It took a while to get used to the shape and action of the
ergo levers, but otherwise am happy. I put the Ultegra 9sp on another
bike that I ride occasionally, and it's very sloppy compared to the
Chorus.
I should mention that after 8000 km, the return spring in the right
ergo lever broke. It cost me $150 to repair (bought the set in Italy,
so no warranty without a hassle). At least with Campag I could get it
fixed, I suppose! Still, not happy Jan.
Donga
> Are we talking about old 9sp Ultegra or new 10sp Ultegra. Shimano
> reckon their new one is a huge leap over the old. I'm riding the old,
> wondering if when it wears out it would be worth replacing the groupset
> with a new 10sp Ultegra or going Campy Chorus.
> What needs to be done to a bike (Trek 2300, currently with Ultegra 9sp)
> to convert it to Campy?
I made this swap in 2004, after waiting an eon for Shimano to produce
10sp and finally getting jack of it. Although you can keep some bits,
it is a lot of screwing around. I finally sold my DA wheels, built new
Campag ones and made a full swap. Now I don't have to think about it
any more. It took a while to get used to the shape and action of the
ergo levers, but otherwise am happy. I put the Ultegra 9sp on another
bike that I ride occasionally, and it's very sloppy compared to the
Chorus.
I should mention that after 8000 km, the return spring in the right
ergo lever broke. It cost me $150 to repair (bought the set in Italy,
so no warranty without a hassle). At least with Campag I could get it
fixed, I suppose! Still, not happy Jan.
Donga
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