Campy corkscrew

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Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Meccanico di Bici said:

Inside the housing, where the cork is pulled up into when you pry down
the handles, are little wings or ridges on the side that keep the cork
from spinning. Simply un-screw the main mechanism and your cork will
fall right out. Believe me, I use one almost daily. ( Is that a
problem? ) Salute!
Jim

richard said:

OK, so I needed a corkscrew at the time I had too much cash available...

The Campy corkscrew is amazing! The body is spring-loaded and slides
down against the shoulder of the bottle (rather than resting on the top
of the neck), and it pulls corks with amazing ease.

Now, as to why I'm posting. Once the cork is out, if you screw it in
all the way, the cork is up inside this body. Unlike those you see in
the grocery store, the body is completely enclosed...

Any suggestions on how to get the $#*& cork out of the corkscrew in less
than 5 minutes? I've had poor luck trying to cut it out with a knife,
using the knife to hold the cork in place while un-screwing, trying to
hold the cork with a fork or pliers, etc.

The only success I've had is not screwing it all the way into the cork
in the first place. Any other suggestions? (NO, putting the corkscrew
on display and buying a different corkscrew is NOT an option, Tom et al...)

Thanks!

Up and running???

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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:56:31 -0500, RonSonic
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Philistine. That is just shocking, with you from California and

all.

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I'm from Florida. If we ever grew a grape down here it wouldn't be

fit for

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Manichewitz.

Too late. http://www.lakeridgewinery.com/

WRETCH, BARF, WRETCH!

Scuppernong and Muscadine grapes actually grow down there in the semi
tropics. They make Scuppernong wine up in North Carolina. It tastes bad
both directions if you get my drift.

http://southernfood.about.com/library/weekly/aa091998.htm

Chas. Coming to you from the heart of the CA Wine Country

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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:57:19 -0500, RonSonic

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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:17:44 GMT, Jasper Janssen

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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:12:47 -0600, DougC <[email hidden]>

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>The Campy is just for finish-line champagne that gets mostly dumped

out

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>and chugged a bit, you're not supposed to be able to put the cork

back in.

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Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding

the

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cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so,

using a

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corkscrew is a good way to get injured.

You mean they don't all have screw caps?

Champagne comes in screw cap versions?

I might buy it for fizzy-white-wine a la methode champenoise, but

actual

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champagne, I doubt it.

Jasper

We used to drink "Cham-pipple".... Ripple and 7-Up! Both screwcap.

Then there was "Mad Dog".... MD 20/20 - corrects your vision! ;-)

Chas.

Ted Bennett said:

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>The Campy is just for finish-line champagne that gets mostly dumped out
>and chugged a bit, you're not supposed to be able to put the cork back in.

Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding the
cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so, using a
corkscrew is a good way to get injured.

You mean they don't all have screw caps?

Philistine. That is just shocking, with you from California and all.

Actually, most Swiss wines have used a screw top for some time now. It
is supposed to form a better seal than cork. Other countries are moving
in that direction as well.

Art Harris

Art Harris said:

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>Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding the
>cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so, using a
>corkscrew is a good way to get injured.

You mean they don't all have screw caps?

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Actually, most Swiss wines have used a screw top for some time now. It
is supposed to form a better seal than cork. Other countries are moving
in that direction as well.

Wines, yes. Champagne, not so much. THe pressure generated by the CO2
coming out would be hard to contain with a screw cap, and in particular
opening the bottle would be hazardous.

Jasper

Art Harris said:

Ted Bennett said:

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>>The Campy is just for finish-line champagne that gets mostly dumped out
>>and chugged a bit, you're not supposed to be able to put the cork back in.
>
>Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding the
>cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so, using a
>corkscrew is a good way to get injured.

You mean they don't all have screw caps?

Philistine. That is just shocking, with you from California and all.

Actually, most Swiss wines have used a screw top for some time now. It
is supposed to form a better seal than cork. Other countries are moving
in that direction as well.

Will Swiss, Italian and French wine bottles with screw tops have
different threading to match Swiss, Italian and French BB threading?

--
Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!

Jasper Janssen said:

Art Harris said:

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> >Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding the
> >cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so, using a
> >corkscrew is a good way to get injured.
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> You mean they don't all have screw caps?

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Actually, most Swiss wines have used a screw top for some time now. It
is supposed to form a better seal than cork. Other countries are moving
in that direction as well.

Wines, yes. Champagne, not so much. THe pressure generated by the CO2
coming out would be hard to contain with a screw cap, and in particular
opening the bottle would be hazardous.

A number of sparkling wines and sparkling juices I've opened in the past
use a plastic 'cork'. It used the traditional wire closure that you
find on corks made of cork. It seemed to work well enough.

I do imagine a screw cap would not work well, as you mentioned.

--
Dane Buson - [email hidden]
"Why would you want to be born again? Didn't you get it right
the first time?" -Angela

"Dane Buson" (clip) I do imagine a screw cap would not work well, as you
mentioned.
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I don't see a problem. Safety wire is used on aircraft fasteners with great
success.

Not much opportunity! I can barely get a thumb and finger on the cork...

Marcus Coles said:

This sounds like a variation on the old quick release/folding wing nut
thread. ;-)

While holding the tube section, move the side arms back up to the
horizontal position and the cork will become visible. Use this
opportunity to grab the protruding cork and twist it off.

All ready for the next 1.5 litre bottle.

Uncork, drink and repeat as necessary.

Next week: Using the Park Pizza Cutter.

Marcus

I paid $80

Johnny Sunset said:

Leo Lichtman said:

"Johnny Sunset" wrote: (clip) Is it appropriate to open a bottle of wine
with a Campy corkscrew, if the main course of the meal is a fish caught with
a Shimano reel?
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Does Shimano make corkscrews? If not, the question is moot.

No, but for us proletarian pizza and beer consumers, Park Tool has us
covered [1].

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I think it was Bugatti who answered a critic of his brakes: "I make them to
go, not to stop." Obviously, Campy makes the tool for opening the wine, not
for easy cleanup. What happens after dinner is irrelevant. However, always
serve wine from a bottle large enough to last through the whole meal, or you
will have to buy a second corkscrew. How much did you say they were?

A quick Froogle search [2] reveals a price range of about $180 to $250
US for the "Big" (the lower eBay price is for the "Miro"😉. Anyone who
considers a corkscrew of that price disposable deserves to be heavily
taxed.

[1] <http://www.parktool.com/products/category.asp?cat=19>.
[2] <http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=campagnolo+corkscrew&hl=en>.

KEWL - it never occurred to me to try to remove the cork while it was
all the way up inside, but there are the wings! Too bad it's not
appropriate to open a whole bottle of wine to chase the Spaten
Oktoberfest I'd just opened, but I'll try it out over the weekned

Thanks!

Meccanico di Bici said:

Inside the housing, where the cork is pulled up into when you pry down
the handles, are little wings or ridges on the side that keep the cork
from spinning. Simply un-screw the main mechanism and your cork will
fall right out. Believe me, I use one almost daily. ( Is that a
problem? ) Salute!
Jim

richard said:

OK, so I needed a corkscrew at the time I had too much cash available...

The Campy corkscrew is amazing! The body is spring-loaded and slides
down against the shoulder of the bottle (rather than resting on the top
of the neck), and it pulls corks with amazing ease.

Now, as to why I'm posting. Once the cork is out, if you screw it in
all the way, the cork is up inside this body. Unlike those you see in
the grocery store, the body is completely enclosed...

Any suggestions on how to get the $#*& cork out of the corkscrew in less
than 5 minutes? I've had poor luck trying to cut it out with a knife,
using the knife to hold the cork in place while un-screwing, trying to
hold the cork with a fork or pliers, etc.

The only success I've had is not screwing it all the way into the cork
in the first place. Any other suggestions? (NO, putting the corkscrew
on display and buying a different corkscrew is NOT an option, Tom et al...)

Thanks!

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I paid $80

How long ago was that? If you do a search today, be prepared to pay between
$170-200!

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Johnny Sunset said:

Leo Lichtman said:

"Johnny Sunset" wrote: (clip) Is it appropriate to open a bottle of
wine
with a Campy corkscrew, if the main course of the meal is a fish caught
with
a Shimano reel?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Does Shimano make corkscrews? If not, the question is moot.

No, but for us proletarian pizza and beer consumers, Park Tool has us
covered [1].

Quoted message said:

I think it was Bugatti who answered a critic of his brakes: "I make them
to
go, not to stop." Obviously, Campy makes the tool for opening the wine,
not
for easy cleanup. What happens after dinner is irrelevant. However,
always
serve wine from a bottle large enough to last through the whole meal, or
you
will have to buy a second corkscrew. How much did you say they were?

A quick Froogle search [2] reveals a price range of about $180 to $250
US for the "Big" (the lower eBay price is for the "Miro"😉. Anyone who
considers a corkscrew of that price disposable deserves to be heavily
taxed.

[1] <http://www.parktool.com/products/category.asp?cat=19>.
[2] <http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=campagnolo+corkscrew&hl=en>.

Meccanico di Bici said:

Inside the housing, where the cork is pulled up into when you pry down
the handles, are little wings or ridges on the side that keep the cork
from spinning. Simply un-screw the main mechanism and your cork will
fall right out. Believe me, I use one almost daily. ( Is that a
problem? ) Salute!
Jim

exactly right. most dependable corkscrew I have ever used. the screw
shape (without a solid center spike) is less prone to busting dry
crappy corks. buy it. you need it.

Happy to help, unlike some of the other cork-soakers who replied ;-}

richard said:

KEWL - it never occurred to me to try to remove the cork while it was
all the way up inside, but there are the wings! Too bad it's not
appropriate to open a whole bottle of wine to chase the Spaten
Oktoberfest I'd just opened, but I'll try it out over the weekned

Thanks!

Meccanico di Bici said:

Inside the housing, where the cork is pulled up into when you pry down
the handles, are little wings or ridges on the side that keep the cork
from spinning. Simply un-screw the main mechanism and your cork will
fall right out. Believe me, I use one almost daily. ( Is that a
problem? ) Salute!
Jim

richard said:

OK, so I needed a corkscrew at the time I had too much cash available...

The Campy corkscrew is amazing! The body is spring-loaded and slides
down against the shoulder of the bottle (rather than resting on the top
of the neck), and it pulls corks with amazing ease.

Now, as to why I'm posting. Once the cork is out, if you screw it in
all the way, the cork is up inside this body. Unlike those you see in
the grocery store, the body is completely enclosed...

Any suggestions on how to get the $#*& cork out of the corkscrew in less
than 5 minutes? I've had poor luck trying to cut it out with a knife,
using the knife to hold the cork in place while un-screwing, trying to
hold the cork with a fork or pliers, etc.

The only success I've had is not screwing it all the way into the cork
in the first place. Any other suggestions? (NO, putting the corkscrew
on display and buying a different corkscrew is NOT an option, Tom et al...)

Thanks!

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Chas. Coming to you from the heart of the CA Wine Country

Oh, you're here in the Santa Ynez Valley too? <grin>

Cheers,
David

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Actually, most Swiss wines have used a screw top for some time now. It
is supposed to form a better seal than cork. Other countries are moving
in that direction as well.

Sadly you are right. This started when there was a shortage of acceptable
cork due to disease. Quite a few wines are also bottled with synthetic
"corks" that are quite hard to pull.

I know I'm old fashion, but the process of removing the cork is an integral
part of the "ritual" of wine. Wine is not just a beverage, and while
technically a screw top might have advantages, it removes tradition that is
important to the overall enjoyment.

Cheers,
David

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"* * Chas" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Chas. Coming to you from the heart of the CA Wine Country

Oh, you're here in the Santa Ynez Valley too? <grin>

Cheers,
David

I'm in the East Bay which is about halfway between Santa Barbara and
Mendocino County which by my reckoning is the heart of a very big wine
country. ;-)

BTW,Santa Ynez Valley, great wines. Have you ever seen the movie
"Sideways"?

Chas.

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"Art Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1163620980.874583.230820
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Actually, most Swiss wines have used a screw top for some time now.

It

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is supposed to form a better seal than cork. Other countries are

moving

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in that direction as well.

Sadly you are right. This started when there was a shortage of

acceptable

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cork due to disease. Quite a few wines are also bottled with synthetic
"corks" that are quite hard to pull.

I know I'm old fashion, but the process of removing the cork is an

integral

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part of the "ritual" of wine. Wine is not just a beverage, and while
technically a screw top might have advantages, it removes tradition

that is

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important to the overall enjoyment.

Cheers,
David

But in case of emergency you can always push the cork into the bottle!
;-)

Chas.

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BTW,Santa Ynez Valley, great wines. Have you ever seen the movie
"Sideways"?

Not only have I seen the movie, the remnants are all around here: There
are still signs on some of the small wineries that say "as seen in
'Sideways'", and there are even "Sideways tours" that take you to the
Alisal Golf Course, the ostrich farm, the Hitching Post restaurant, Los
Olivos Café, Fess Parker's, Foxen Cyn, etc. which of course are all "as
seen in Sideways" .

Actually, aside from all the hype, this is a great place both for wine
and for riding. The hills are a bit easier when you are able to view
vineyards and horse farms, and don't have to worry about much car
traffic. I guess that's why Lance started having the US Postal team do
their winter training camps here. Discovery has continued that and CSC,
HeathNet and others are now coming here too. Best of all, the Tour of
California is going to have the time trial stage here next year. That
will be another great boost for Solvang cycling.

Cheers,
David

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BTW,Santa Ynez Valley, great wines. Have you ever seen the movie
"Sideways"?

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Best of all, the Tour of
California is going to have the time trial stage here next year. That
will be another great boost for Solvang cycling.

Cheers,
David

Good excuse to come down and swill some 'Merlot"... ;-)

Chas.