Campy corkscrew

richard said:

OK, so I needed a corkscrew at the time I had too much cash available...

The Campy corkscrew is amazing! The body is spring-loaded and slides
down against the shoulder of the bottle (rather than resting on the top
of the neck), and it pulls corks with amazing ease.

Now, as to why I'm posting. Once the cork is out, if you screw it in
all the way, the cork is up inside this body. Unlike those you see in
the grocery store, the body is completely enclosed...

Any suggestions on how to get the $#*& cork out of the corkscrew in less
than 5 minutes? I've had poor luck trying to cut it out with a knife,
using the knife to hold the cork in place while un-screwing, trying to
hold the cork with a fork or pliers, etc.

The only success I've had is not screwing it all the way into the cork
in the first place. Any other suggestions? (NO, putting the corkscrew
on display and buying a different corkscrew is NOT an option, Tom et al...)

Is this the "Big" or "Miro" corkscrew? Oddly the official website does
not have pictures:
<http://www.campagnolo.com/groupsets.php?gid=1&cid=15&pid=185>.
However, a picture of the "Big" is easily found:
<https://secure5.nexternal.com/reparto/images/corkscrew1.jpg>.

Is it appropriate to open a bottle of wine with a Campy corkscrew, if
the main course of the meal is a fish caught with a Shimano reel?

--
Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!

"Johnny Sunset" wrote: (clip) Is it appropriate to open a bottle of wine
with a Campy corkscrew, if the main course of the meal is a fish caught with
a Shimano reel?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Does Shimano make corkscrews? If not, the question is moot.

I think it was Bugatti who answered a critic of his brakes: "I make them to
go, not to stop." Obviously, Campy makes the tool for opening the wine, not
for easy cleanup. What happens after dinner is irrelevant. However, always
serve wine from a bottle large enough to last through the whole meal, or you
will have to buy a second corkscrew. How much did you say they were?

Leo Lichtman said:

"Johnny Sunset" wrote: (clip) Is it appropriate to open a bottle of wine
with a Campy corkscrew, if the main course of the meal is a fish caught with
a Shimano reel?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Does Shimano make corkscrews? If not, the question is moot.

I think it was Bugatti who answered a critic of his brakes: "I make them to
go, not to stop." Obviously, Campy makes the tool for opening the wine, not
for easy cleanup. What happens after dinner is irrelevant. However, always
serve wine from a bottle large enough to last through the whole meal, or you
will have to buy a second corkscrew. How much did you say they were?

The Campy is just for finish-line champagne that gets mostly dumped out
and chugged a bit, you're not supposed to be able to put the cork back in.

-And you're just supposed to use it /once/, and then keep it a a
souvenir (of that win) and buy another one.
~

Leo Lichtman said:

"Johnny Sunset" wrote: (clip) Is it appropriate to open a bottle of wine
with a Campy corkscrew, if the main course of the meal is a fish caught with
a Shimano reel?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Does Shimano make corkscrews? If not, the question is moot.

No, but for us proletarian pizza and beer consumers, Park Tool has us
covered [1].

Quoted message said:

I think it was Bugatti who answered a critic of his brakes: "I make them to
go, not to stop." Obviously, Campy makes the tool for opening the wine, not
for easy cleanup. What happens after dinner is irrelevant. However, always
serve wine from a bottle large enough to last through the whole meal, or you
will have to buy a second corkscrew. How much did you say they were?

A quick Froogle search [2] reveals a price range of about $180 to $250
US for the "Big" (the lower eBay price is for the "Miro"😉. Anyone who
considers a corkscrew of that price disposable deserves to be heavily
taxed.

[1] <http://www.parktool.com/products/category.asp?cat=19>.
[2] <http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=campagnolo+corkscrew&hl=en>.

--
Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!

DougC said:

The Campy is just for finish-line champagne that gets mostly dumped out
and chugged a bit, you're not supposed to be able to put the cork back in.

Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding the
cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so, using a
corkscrew is a good way to get injured.

Jasper

Jasper Janssen said:

DougC said:

The Campy is just for finish-line champagne that gets mostly dumped out
and chugged a bit, you're not supposed to be able to put the cork back in.

Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding the
cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so, using a
corkscrew is a good way to get injured.

You mean they don't all have screw caps?

Ron

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

richard said:

OK, so I needed a corkscrew at the time I had too much cash available...

The Campy corkscrew is amazing! The body is spring-loaded and slides
down against the shoulder of the bottle (rather than resting on the top
of the neck), and it pulls corks with amazing ease.

Now, as to why I'm posting. Once the cork is out, if you screw it in
all the way, the cork is up inside this body. Unlike those you see in
the grocery store, the body is completely enclosed...

Any suggestions on how to get the $#*& cork out of the corkscrew in less
than 5 minutes? I've had poor luck trying to cut it out with a knife,
using the knife to hold the cork in place while un-screwing, trying to
hold the cork with a fork or pliers, etc.

The only success I've had is not screwing it all the way into the cork
in the first place. Any other suggestions? (NO, putting the corkscrew
on display and buying a different corkscrew is NOT an option, Tom et al...)

Is this the "Big" or "Miro" corkscrew? Oddly the official website does
not have pictures:
<http://www.campagnolo.com/groupsets.php?gid=1&cid=15&pid=185>.
However, a picture of the "Big" is easily found:
<https://secure5.nexternal.com/reparto/images/corkscrew1.jpg>.

Is it appropriate to open a bottle of wine with a Campy corkscrew, if
the main course of the meal is a fish caught with a Shimano reel?

Having taken a look at the picture - if this is the corkscrew richard bought it seems to lack the simplicity of the
real thing. Definately could be tricky getting the cork out which makes the thing next to useless.

Cork-screw - hmmm.
Suggests that if a wine can be corked - then you have been scr....

Mike

Any serious answers to this? I'm thinking of buying one as a gift - but
won't if the product is not practical. Actually, you could save me a lot of
money by *not* answering ;-)

~PB

This sounds like a variation on the old quick release/folding wing nut
thread. ;-)

While holding the tube section, move the side arms back up to the
horizontal position and the cork will become visible. Use this
opportunity to grab the protruding cork and twist it off.

All ready for the next 1.5 litre bottle.

Uncork, drink and repeat as necessary.

Next week: Using the Park Pizza Cutter.

Marcus

RonSonic said:

Jasper Janssen said:

DougC said:

The Campy is just for finish-line champagne that gets mostly dumped out
and chugged a bit, you're not supposed to be able to put the cork back in.

Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding the
cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so, using a
corkscrew is a good way to get injured.

You mean they don't all have screw caps?

Ron

Philistine. That is just shocking, with you from California and all.

--
Ted Bennett

Ted Bennett said:

RonSonic said:

Jasper Janssen said:

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:12:47 -0600, DougC <[email hidden]> wrote:

>The Campy is just for finish-line champagne that gets mostly dumped out
>and chugged a bit, you're not supposed to be able to put the cork back in.

Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding the
cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so, using a
corkscrew is a good way to get injured.

You mean they don't all have screw caps?

Ron

Philistine. That is just shocking, with you from California and all.

I'm from Florida. If we ever grew a grape down here it wouldn't be fit for
Manichewitz.

Ron

richard said:

Now, as to why I'm posting. Once the cork is out, if you screw it in
all the way, the cork is up inside this body. Unlike those you see in
the grocery store, the body is completely enclosed...

You're obviously expected to convert the corkscrew into drillium. This
will provide you with openings throuh which you can grip the wayward
cork.

RonSonic said:

Ted Bennett said:

RonSonic said:

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:17:44 GMT, Jasper Janssen <[email hidden]> wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:12:47 -0600, DougC <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>The Campy is just for finish-line champagne that gets mostly dumped out
>>and chugged a bit, you're not supposed to be able to put the cork back in.
>
>Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding the
>cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so, using a
>corkscrew is a good way to get injured.

You mean they don't all have screw caps?

Ron

Philistine. That is just shocking, with you from California and all.

I'm from Florida. If we ever grew a grape down here it wouldn't be fit for
Manichewitz.

Too late. http://www.lakeridgewinery.com/

(The quality of the product is a matter of opinion.)
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:42:44 -0600, richard <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

OK, so I needed a corkscrew at the time I had too much cash available...

The Campy corkscrew is amazing! The body is spring-loaded and slides
down against the shoulder of the bottle (rather than resting on the top
of the neck), and it pulls corks with amazing ease.

Now, as to why I'm posting. Once the cork is out, if you screw it in
all the way, the cork is up inside this body. Unlike those you see in
the grocery store, the body is completely enclosed...

Any suggestions on how to get the $#*& cork out of the corkscrew in less
than 5 minutes? I've had poor luck trying to cut it out with a knife,
using the knife to hold the cork in place while un-screwing, trying to
hold the cork with a fork or pliers, etc.

The only success I've had is not screwing it all the way into the cork
in the first place. Any other suggestions? (NO, putting the corkscrew
on display and buying a different corkscrew is NOT an option, Tom et al...)

Okay. There's one thing that you need to know about these corkscrews
which may not have been obvious. You start with the wings all the way
up, screw in until the wings just start to pull down, and then use the
wings as levers to yank the cork up...praying that the bottlers
weren't cheap [censored] who used crappy corks that break in the middle,
and that the cork hasn't dried out in transit or storage on its way to
you. If you do it that way, the cork will always be easily removable
by simply flipping the wings back up. If, however, you keep cranking
on the screw as the wings get pulled down, you're going to have the
problem that you describe. This is true with the ones of the same
basic design regardless of manufacturer.

Meanwhile, if it was me, I'd grab the cork with my spark plug wire
boot pliers and unscrew it. You probably don't have a pair of those,
so you're on your own for a solution.

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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:34:04 GMT, Werehatrack <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

RonSonic said:

Ted Bennett said:

RonSonic <[email hidden]> wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:17:44 GMT, Jasper Janssen <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:12:47 -0600, DougC <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> >>The Campy is just for finish-line champagne that gets mostly dumped out
> >>and chugged a bit, you're not supposed to be able to put the cork back in.
> >
> >Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding the
> >cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so, using a
> >corkscrew is a good way to get injured.
>
> You mean they don't all have screw caps?
>
> Ron

Philistine. That is just shocking, with you from California and all.

I'm from Florida. If we ever grew a grape down here it wouldn't be fit for
Manichewitz.

Too late. http://www.lakeridgewinery.com/

(The quality of the product is a matter of opinion.)

"Lakeridge ranks as Florida's largest premium winery ..."

I am ranked as one of the greatest cyclocross riders in Florida over 200 pounds,
over 50 and building great guitar effects. (IOW your hamster is faster - and
probably produces a better wine.)

Ron

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:57:19 -0500, RonSonic <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jasper Janssen said:

DougC said:

The Campy is just for finish-line champagne that gets mostly dumped out
and chugged a bit, you're not supposed to be able to put the cork back in.

Uhm, dude? Champagne doesn't go with corkscrews. Those wires holding the
cork *in* until you release them are there for a reason, and so, using a
corkscrew is a good way to get injured.

You mean they don't all have screw caps?

Champagne comes in screw cap versions?

I might buy it for fizzy-white-wine a la methode champenoise, but actual
champagne, I doubt it.

Jasper

Inside the housing, where the cork is pulled up into when you pry down
the handles, are little wings or ridges on the side that keep the cork
from spinning. Simply un-screw the main mechanism and your cork will
fall right out. Believe me, I use one almost daily. ( Is that a
problem? ) Salute!
Jim

richard said:

OK, so I needed a corkscrew at the time I had too much cash available...

The Campy corkscrew is amazing! The body is spring-loaded and slides
down against the shoulder of the bottle (rather than resting on the top
of the neck), and it pulls corks with amazing ease.

Now, as to why I'm posting. Once the cork is out, if you screw it in
all the way, the cork is up inside this body. Unlike those you see in
the grocery store, the body is completely enclosed...

Any suggestions on how to get the $#*& cork out of the corkscrew in less
than 5 minutes? I've had poor luck trying to cut it out with a knife,
using the knife to hold the cork in place while un-screwing, trying to
hold the cork with a fork or pliers, etc.

The only success I've had is not screwing it all the way into the cork
in the first place. Any other suggestions? (NO, putting the corkscrew
on display and buying a different corkscrew is NOT an option, Tom et al...)

Thanks!

Inside the housing, where the cork is pulled up into when you pry down
the handles, are little wings or ridges on the side that keep the cork
from spinning. Simply un-screw the main mechanism and your cork will
fall right out. Believe me, I use one almost daily. ( Is that a
problem? ) Salute!
Jim

richard said:

OK, so I needed a corkscrew at the time I had too much cash available...

The Campy corkscrew is amazing! The body is spring-loaded and slides
down against the shoulder of the bottle (rather than resting on the top
of the neck), and it pulls corks with amazing ease.

Now, as to why I'm posting. Once the cork is out, if you screw it in
all the way, the cork is up inside this body. Unlike those you see in
the grocery store, the body is completely enclosed...

Any suggestions on how to get the $#*& cork out of the corkscrew in less
than 5 minutes? I've had poor luck trying to cut it out with a knife,
using the knife to hold the cork in place while un-screwing, trying to
hold the cork with a fork or pliers, etc.

The only success I've had is not screwing it all the way into the cork
in the first place. Any other suggestions? (NO, putting the corkscrew
on display and buying a different corkscrew is NOT an option, Tom et al...)

Thanks!

Meccanico di Bici said:

Inside the housing, where the cork is pulled up into when you pry down
the handles, are little wings or ridges on the side that keep the cork
from spinning. Simply un-screw the main mechanism and your cork will
fall right out. Believe me, I use one almost daily. ( Is that a
problem? ) Salute!
Jim

richard said:

OK, so I needed a corkscrew at the time I had too much cash available...

The Campy corkscrew is amazing! The body is spring-loaded and slides
down against the shoulder of the bottle (rather than resting on the top
of the neck), and it pulls corks with amazing ease.

Now, as to why I'm posting. Once the cork is out, if you screw it in
all the way, the cork is up inside this body. Unlike those you see in
the grocery store, the body is completely enclosed...

Any suggestions on how to get the $#*& cork out of the corkscrew in less
than 5 minutes? I've had poor luck trying to cut it out with a knife,
using the knife to hold the cork in place while un-screwing, trying to
hold the cork with a fork or pliers, etc.

The only success I've had is not screwing it all the way into the cork
in the first place. Any other suggestions? (NO, putting the corkscrew
on display and buying a different corkscrew is NOT an option, Tom et al...)

Thanks!

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