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  1. www.cyclingnews.com : " 'The fork of the bicycle suddenly snapped, and
    as a result, Richard fell on his face,' recalled Virenque's wife
    Stéphanie, whose husband suffered a broken nose and numerous facial
    wounds, one of which required 32 stitches and will require cosmetic
    surgery next week."

    Let's hope for a speedy recovery for Richard.

    Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off? I've
    heard the urban legend about sudden carbon fork failure but never
    really believed it. Maybe I should now.

    My daily commuter is a steel frame road bike with a carbon fork. Have
    put about 16,000 miles on it in 3 years. Looks fine. Do these things
    have a fatigue life at which point you're supposed to replace them?

  2. James said:


    Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off?

    Do you know what the word "paranoid" means?

    JT

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  3. James says...

    Quoted message said:

    www.cyclingnews.com : " 'The fork of the bicycle suddenly snapped, and
    as a result, Richard fell on his face,' recalled Virenque's wife
    Stéphanie, whose husband suffered a broken nose and numerous facial
    wounds, one of which required 32 stitches and will require cosmetic
    surgery next week."

    Let's hope for a speedy recovery for Richard.

    Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off? I've
    heard the urban legend about sudden carbon fork failure but never
    really believed it. Maybe I should now.

    My daily commuter is a steel frame road bike with a carbon fork. Have
    put about 16,000 miles on it in 3 years. Looks fine. Do these things
    have a fatigue life at which point you're supposed to replace them?

    The same thing happened to Hincapie at Paris-Roubaix. The fork had an
    alloy steerer and was borrowed from a mid-level Pilot for that race,
    which is known for its rough roads. The steerer snapped just below the
    stem. The bike was involved in an earlier minor crash.

  4. John Forrest Tomlinson said:
    James said:


    Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off?

    Do you know what the word "paranoid" means?

    That's the thing, the issue isn't whether I'm paranoid, it is whether I am being
    paranoid enough.

    Ron

  5. James said:

    www.cyclingnews.com : " 'The fork of the bicycle suddenly snapped, and
    as a result, Richard fell on his face,' recalled Virenque's wife
    St�phanie, whose husband suffered a broken nose and numerous facial
    wounds, one of which required 32 stitches and will require cosmetic
    surgery next week."

    Let's hope for a speedy recovery for Richard.

    Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off? I've
    heard the urban legend about sudden carbon fork failure but never
    really believed it. Maybe I should now.

    My daily commuter is a steel frame road bike with a carbon fork. Have
    put about 16,000 miles on it in 3 years. Looks fine. Do these things
    have a fatigue life at which point you're supposed to replace them?


    yes, they do have a fatigue life, but it substantially exceeds that of
    steel or aluminum. the failure modes of carbon composites almost always
    include audible warnings, much like a highly strained piece of wood
    cracking and creaking. if yours is making any noise, be extremely
    cautious, with a view to not riding it. otherwise, carbon forks are
    extremely strong and if not abused, good quality ones will take more
    punishment than their steel or aluminum counterparts.

  6. Barnard Frederick said:

    James says...

    Quoted message said:

    www.cyclingnews.com : " 'The fork of the bicycle suddenly snapped, and
    as a result, Richard fell on his face,' recalled Virenque's wife
    St�phanie, whose husband suffered a broken nose and numerous facial
    wounds, one of which required 32 stitches and will require cosmetic
    surgery next week."

    Let's hope for a speedy recovery for Richard.

    Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off? I've
    heard the urban legend about sudden carbon fork failure but never
    really believed it. Maybe I should now.

    My daily commuter is a steel frame road bike with a carbon fork. Have
    put about 16,000 miles on it in 3 years. Looks fine. Do these things
    have a fatigue life at which point you're supposed to replace them?

    The same thing happened to Hincapie at Paris-Roubaix. The fork had an
    alloy steerer and was borrowed from a mid-level Pilot for that race,
    which is known for its rough roads. The steerer snapped just below the
    stem. The bike was involved in an earlier minor crash.

    if the aluminum steerer failed, how is that a failure of the carbon and
    how is that a fud story for carbon as an engineering material?

  7. John Forrest Tomlinson said:
    James said:


    Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off?

    Do you know what the word "paranoid" means?

    It's not all paranoia if it's actually happening. Of course, it would
    help to know what kind of fork snapped off, and how it happened. Then
    if it's determined that the fork failed for no apparent reason, and
    James determined he was riding the same fork, he could be rightfully
    concerned. Otherwise he could decide to be paranoid about his
    non-affected carbon fork. ;-)

    Mark Hickey
    Habanero Cycles
    http://www.habcycles.com
    Home of the $795 ti frame

  8. John Forrest Tomlinson said:

    On 12 Aug 2006 21:56:28 -0700, "James" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off?

    Quoted message said:

    Do you know what the word "paranoid" means?

    {annoying sig lines removed}

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paranoid

  9. RonSonic a écrit :

    Quoted message said:
    John Forrest Tomlinson said:
    James said:

    Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off?


    Do you know what the word "paranoid" means?

    That's the thing, the issue isn't whether I'm paranoid, it is whether I am being
    paranoid enough.

    Ron


    If you can distinguish between real and imaginary threats, you are not
    there, yet. [Thanks to Helen Vecht]

    --

    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine FR
    --
    Mobilité et stabilité ne sont pas antinomiques :
    un cycliste n'est stable sur sa bicyclette
    qu'en avançant.
    - Chirac, J (who must have read Einstein)

  10. jim beam a écrit :

    Quoted message said:
    Barnard Frederick said:

    James says...

    Quoted message said:

    www.cyclingnews.com : " 'The fork of the bicycle suddenly snapped, and
    as a result, Richard fell on his face,' recalled Virenque's wife
    St�phanie, whose husband suffered a broken nose and numerous facial
    wounds, one of which required 32 stitches and will require cosmetic
    surgery next week."

    Let's hope for a speedy recovery for Richard.

    Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off? I've
    heard the urban legend about sudden carbon fork failure but never
    really believed it. Maybe I should now.

    My daily commuter is a steel frame road bike with a carbon fork. Have
    put about 16,000 miles on it in 3 years. Looks fine. Do these things
    have a fatigue life at which point you're supposed to replace them?

    The same thing happened to Hincapie at Paris-Roubaix. The fork had
    an alloy steerer and was borrowed from a mid-level Pilot for that
    race, which is known for its rough roads. The steerer snapped just
    below the stem. The bike was involved in an earlier minor crash.

    if the aluminum steerer failed, how is that a failure of the carbon
    and how is that a fud story for carbon as an engineering material?


    It seems to be neither. More, a gentle comment that carbon and aluminum
    _both_ can fail. The OP was not clear about whether the steerer is
    carbon or alu.

  11. "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    John Forrest Tomlinson said:

    On 12 Aug 2006 21:56:28 -0700, "James" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off?

    Quoted message said:

    Do you know what the word "paranoid" means?

    {annoying sig lines removed}

    If you find them so annoying, why did you copy them when you posted the fake
    reply in the cable strand thread?

  12. Sandy said:

    jim beam a écrit :

    Quoted message said:
    Barnard Frederick said:

    James says...

    > www.cyclingnews.com : " 'The fork of the bicycle suddenly snapped, and
    > as a result, Richard fell on his face,' recalled Virenque's wife
    > St�phanie, whose husband suffered a broken nose and numerous facial
    > wounds, one of which required 32 stitches and will require cosmetic
    > surgery next week."
    >
    > Let's hope for a speedy recovery for Richard.
    >
    > Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off? I've
    > heard the urban legend about sudden carbon fork failure but never
    > really believed it. Maybe I should now.
    >
    > My daily commuter is a steel frame road bike with a carbon fork. Have
    > put about 16,000 miles on it in 3 years. Looks fine. Do these things
    > have a fatigue life at which point you're supposed to replace them?

    The same thing happened to Hincapie at Paris-Roubaix. The fork had
    an alloy steerer and was borrowed from a mid-level Pilot for that
    race, which is known for its rough roads. The steerer snapped just
    below the stem. The bike was involved in an earlier minor crash.

    if the aluminum steerer failed, how is that a failure of the carbon
    and how is that a fud story for carbon as an engineering material?


    It seems to be neither. More, a gentle comment that carbon and aluminum
    _both_ can fail. The OP was not clear about whether the steerer is
    carbon or alu.

    with respect, i think that's confused. what we're seeing is the usual
    fud regarding carbon forks. reality is, the material that failed is not
    carbon, hence the fud is, as usual, "misplaced".

    the thread originator asked: "Do these things have a fatigue life at
    which point you're supposed to replace them?" the answer is yes they
    do, but for decent quality material, fatigue life /far/ exceeds that of
    the alternatives when properly cared for. if they didn't have fear,
    uncertainty or doubt, they wouldn't have asked the question.

  13. Sandy said:

    RonSonic a écrit :

    Quoted message said:
    John Forrest Tomlinson said:

    On 12 Aug 2006 21:56:28 -0700, "James" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off?
    >
    Do you know what the word "paranoid" means?


    That's the thing, the issue isn't whether I'm paranoid, it is whether Iam being
    paranoid enough.


    If you can distinguish between real and imaginary threats, you are not
    there, yet. [Thanks to Helen Vecht]

    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

    If there's one thing I love about rec.bicycles.*, it's the repartee.
    Even better when one is the victim. It's like a badge of honor -- I
    have been rbr'd, or I have been rbt'd...

    The O.P.

  14. jtaylor said:

    "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    John Forrest Tomlinson said:

    On 12 Aug 2006 21:56:28 -0700, "James" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    > Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off?

    Quoted message said:

    Do you know what the word "paranoid" means?

    {annoying sig lines removed}

    If you find them so annoying, why did you copy them when you posted
    the fake reply in the cable strand thread?

    ROTFL

  15. James said:
    Sandy said:

    RonSonic a écrit :

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 07:36:54 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
    <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > On 12 Aug 2006 21:56:28 -0700, "James" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> Should I be paranoid about my carbon forks suddenly snapping off?
    >>
    > Do you know what the word "paranoid" means?
    >
    That's the thing, the issue isn't whether I'm paranoid, it is whether I am being
    paranoid enough.


    If you can distinguish between real and imaginary threats, you are not
    there, yet. [Thanks to Helen Vecht]

    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

    If there's one thing I love about rec.bicycles.*, it's the repartee.
    Even better when one is the victim. It's like a badge of honor -- I
    have been rbr'd, or I have been rbt'd...

    Dumbass.

    Ron

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